Shimakaze - 8KM Torpeedos

[Commander_Steph]

 

 

Hey all,

 

I would like to know, since missouri is getting radar and many cruisers have radar i would like to know how do you believe the use of 8km torpeedos should be? Except missouri i was hardly handling them, sneaking ninja style which is really difficult and doing good scores. Now its impossible because missouri will be atleast alerting his teammates about my location too.

No more ninja gameplay i guess, no more tactics, just simple gunfight? Is this where you are pulling this game?

I didn't care what other players thinked about how shima was ruined, i liked the 8km torps, but now they are gone too...

[Desteban]

Well lets be honest the Missouri is propably not going to be that easy to get. So don't even think about a dozen of them flooding the game like the Tirpitz for example.

 

But then again you can even torp DM, Moskva and so on without being instant radared. When you get close enough for your torps drop them and turn away.

Till they are spotted you are likely out of range or just at the edge and not visible for long. 

[Nethraniel]

I started playing Kagero with the F3 torps last month to quite some extend, and it is fun. Challenging, but fun. And rewarding, if you pull it off correctly.

 

Have well above 60% WR and carried several games to victory.

 

You can still outplay radar ships, even though it is tough.

[ColonelPete]

• There will not be many radar BBs
• If you are that afraid, do not go near them.
• If you do go near them and launch torps, get far as quicky a possible before the torps reach the enemy. Maybe you are at/beyond the edge of the radarrange when he uses it.

[Commander_Steph]

• There will not be many radar BBs
• If you are that afraid, do not go near them.
• If you do go near them and launch torps, get far as quicky a possible before the torps reach the enemy. Maybe you are at/beyond the edge of the radarrange when he uses it.

 

Are you serious? "If you are that afraid, do not go near them." 

Did you read the topic title?

Do i look like i am searching suggestions on how to play shimakaze?

 

Playing with 8 KM torps require to be hidden, but once a Missouri opens radar (which might be for me or might be for someoneelse) , they will see where am i trying to sneak in eaisly. And while there were cruisers it was no problem because i would hunt the BBs in the back with no cruiser help. Now that fat slow ship has his own radar and will warn other BBs too.) 

 

I hope your 4,827 amount of comments on topics aren't this useless.

 

[anonym_AneTFs0EwGxX]

• There will not be many radar BBs
• If you are that afraid, do not go near them.
• If you do go near them and launch torps, get far as quicky a possible before the torps reach the enemy. Maybe you are at/beyond the edge of the radarrange when he uses it.

 

NASA you found your man !

[Jethro_Grey]

 

Are you serious? "If you are that afraid, do not go near them." 

Did you read the topic title?

Do i look like i am searching suggestions on how to play shimakaze?

 

Playing with 8 KM torps require to be hidden, but once a Missouri opens radar (which might be for me or might be for someoneelse) , they will see where am i trying to sneak in eaisly. And while there were cruisers it was no problem because i would hunt the BBs in the back with no cruiser help. Now that fat slow ship has his own radar and will warn other BBs too.) 

 

I hope your 4,827 amount of comments on topics aren't this useless.

 

 

You do realize, that the Radar isn't always on, it has a cooldown, right?

[ColonelPete]

 

Are you serious? "If you are that afraid, do not go near them." 

Did you read the topic title?

Do i look like i am searching suggestions on how to play shimakaze?

 

Playing with 8 KM torps require to be hidden, but once a Missouri opens radar (which might be for me or might be for someoneelse) , they will see where am i trying to sneak in eaisly. And while there were cruisers it was no problem because i would hunt the BBs in the back with no cruiser help. Now that fat slow ship has his own radar and will warn other BBs too.) 

 

I hope your 4,827 amount of comments on topics aren't this useless.

 

 

As I said, go in and get out quickly. Unless you announce your arrival, he will use radar when he sees your torps at the earliest or you are extremly unlucky.

[cro_pwr]

 

I hope your 4,827 amount of comments on topics aren't this useless.

 

 

From what I've seen, I'd dare to say that at least 4,500 are...

[Deckeru_Maiku]

 

You do realize, that the Radar isn't always on, it has a cooldown, right?

 

But... but... but it COULD be active just when he tries to creep near..... *activate panic mode *

 

[Commander_Steph]

 

But... but... but it COULD be active just when he tries to creep near..... *activate panic mode *

 

Its not about getting spotted by a radar and dying. Its about giving away your location and losing your advantage.

[robihr]

 

 

Hey all,

 

I would like to know, since missouri is getting radar and many cruisers have radar i would like to know how do you believe the use of 8km torpeedos should be? Except missouri i was hardly handling them, sneaking ninja style which is really difficult and doing good scores. Now its impossible because missouri will be atleast alerting his teammates about my location too.

No more ninja gameplay i guess, no more tactics, just simple gunfight? Is this where you are pulling this game?

I didn't care what other players thinked about how shima was ruined, i liked the 8km torps, but now they are gone too...

 

use 8km only if you are very skilled. any average player will have 1 good/excellent battle for every 9 lost miserably. radar ca, damn fighter planes that make stellar orbit around the ship, lots of enemy dd, german bb with sonar and those rare cv you see once in a while all make life difficult to approach unseen and with your torps unspotted.

[DBoZ_Skyline]

 

 

Hey all,

 

I would like to know, since missouri is getting radar and many cruisers have radar i would like to know how do you believe the use of 8km torpeedos should be? Except missouri i was hardly handling them, sneaking ninja style which is really difficult and doing good scores. Now its impossible because missouri will be atleast alerting his teammates about my location too.

No more ninja gameplay i guess, no more tactics, just simple gunfight? Is this where you are pulling this game?

I didn't care what other players thinked about how shima was ruined, i liked the 8km torps, but now they are gone too...

 

You got to be joking now right.... I dont have the shima but the gearing. Even if I have 15km range on torps I always stay around 6,2-6,6 km range before I lauch torps away since my detection range is 5,9 km

So what if ships have radar... they can cause a problem yes, but if you see ships grouped you dont go into open sea to ninja style, get detected and go " dam radar hax!! " this is just as dumb to hear a DD captain say as to hear a BB captain say " dam torpedo hax!! "

 

you got to think and use the islands, simple as that, if there is no way and you overall do bad, then maybe go for longer range on the torpedo. I to fucked up and got detected by radar in my gearing but then again.. had only myeself to blame since I got reckless. Radar etc etc is not the real problem or the range, it how you play

[GeneraKrizmuz]

two words

 

keen intuition

[JediMonster]

8km torps damage

[DinkyToy_AW]

Just wait till the German Destroyer line is released watch the forum topic then 

The ammount of radar/sonar/planes will be altleased increased by 90%....

 

In every game i see 4-7 times radar popping up, its really anoying and if there isn't a radar/sonar then i have to dogde these spotting planes to have a chance to fire 8 km torps, seems to me with the most of you on the forums MM is in your favor.

[Jethro_Grey]

Radar cruisers are only dangerous when you're in a bad position and get caught pants down.

When the Radar runs out, they are as blind as everyone else.

 

What's far more annoying are spotter planes, it's rather tricky timing the attack when the plane circles around a ship while other hostiles are nearby.

So i consider Radar cruisers to be a smaller threat then a simple spotter plane.

 

That being said, not going to switchg to longer range tosps on my Shima/ Kagerou anytime soon, the damage output is much higher than with the 12km ones.

[DinkyToy_AW]

Radar is a "problem" becuause WG put more islands/rocks in every map or ajusting them a bit closer to cap points.
Radar is a "problem" as it can see true islands/rocks even when its massive (planes are in the sky so yes they can spot you behind it).

 

So capping with rocks arround you is dangerous as you only spot ships what are in the open with low consealment, i would not be supriced that destroyers need to relay more and more on long range torps in the furture as there will be more and more radar/sonar will be added to "new released" ships,  to be honnest were still looking for better solutions how to deal with radar/sonar at the moment and be less effective in battles against advanced group of players to stall there advancing move..

Atleast it's my thoughts

[viceadmiral123]

8km torps best torps. Cruiser and carrier population is low (intentional by WG), so 8km torps work quite well.

[th3freakie]

Radar cruisers are only dangerous when you're in a bad position and get caught pants down.

 

Torpedos are only dangerous if you're in a bad position and get caught pants down.

Yamato shells are only dangerous if you're in a bad position and get caught pants down.

Manual TB drops are only dangerous if you're in a bad position and get caught pants down. 

 

All equally true, none really helpful.

 

[Tivook]

Well lets be honest the Missouri is propably not going to be that easy to get. So don't even think about a dozen of them flooding the game like the Tirpitz for example.

 

But then again you can even torp DM, Moskva and so on without being instant radared. When you get close enough for your torps drop them and turn away.

Till they are spotted you are likely out of range or just at the edge and not visible for long. 

 

I disagree, those who own the Tirpitz are obviously people ready to spend cash buying a ship.

 

If Missouri will cost free exp it will still be attainable by 95% of Tirpitz owners right away if you ask me, simply because most players are sitting on massive amounts of unused exp on their premium ships. I got 500k on Tirpitz alone which means I can convert exp using gold = Missouri straight away.

 

Buying a premium in the shop or converting readily available exp using gold, doesn't really matter does it?

 

The only challenge Missouri will provide is for those who actually attain it by slowly saving up the free exp. I reckon 99% will do it the easy way though.

[Ferry_25]

I'd say: stick to the 8 torps if you like them. Radar isn't that huge of an issue IMO. I've gotten into trouble maybe 10 times with DD's because of radar since it was introduced. Even the prem radar has a long cooldown and your still playing a agile PIA to hit. If you're radar detected: full throttle and keep dodging like a pro. Run away and find another opportunity for the next time.

[ColonelPete]

 

I disagree, those who own the Tirpitz are obviously people ready to spend cash buying a ship.

 

If Missouri will cost free exp it will still be attainable by 95% of Tirpitz owners right away if you ask me, simply because most players are sitting on massive amounts of unused exp on their premium ships. I got 500k on Tirpitz alone which means I can convert exp using gold = Missouri straight away.

 

Buying a premium in the shop or converting readily available exp using gold, doesn't really matter does it?

 

The only challenge Missouri will provide is for those who actually attain it by slowly saving up the free exp. I reckon 99% will do it the easy way though.

The price matters. Converting 750k XP costs a lot of money.

And if you take the XP from the Tirpitz, you got some decent high Tier BB experience.

[Elenortirion]

well since I am playing kagerou, not shima and using stock 10km torps, not type F3 my advices on a matter may not be 100% accurace since we all know some major differences between the boats....

 

introduction of missouri won't change much in my feeling - just another radarboat to keep an eye for showing up, just happen to be a battleship instead of cruisers

 

what I always do on the baginnign of a match is to check enemy team list for radar boats and hydro boats, and when spotted I try to keep my distance to them - if I make a torping run in their proximity I try to not give them any reasons to suspect me being there and using radar [smokescreen this sort of things ] and I am always ready for emergency bailout under fire if they smash that radar button.

 

and ofc when spotted I tag all radarboats for my team to concentrate fire, sometimes [if I can spare time typing] I add in teamchat that it's is radarboat and that I need him gone asap

 

I hope I somewhat helped

[Spithas]

Its not about getting spotted by a radar and dying. Its about giving away your location and losing your advantage.

 

With F3s even if your location is known you will still be able to hit if you approached from the correct direction.