[THESO] CptMinia Moderator, Players, Privateer 1,427 posts 11,709 battles Report post #1 Posted November 14, 2016 https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2016/11/09/wows-graf-spee-stats/ https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2016/11/09/wows-german-dds-revealed/ I'm looking forward to the German DD Line, but I must say I also look very much forward to finally seeing the Graf Spee in the game! What are your thoughts and opinions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[72] mikelight1805 [72] Beta Tester 453 posts 14,842 battles Report post #2 Posted November 14, 2016 I have nothing against the German DDs, but i don't think i will get around to playing then any time soon. I think i will crack on with the RN CLs and have just finished the Gneisenau, so now have a Bismark to upgrade. Obviously if they look good on release i will have a go. The Graf Spee will depend entirely on how much they charge for that £15 ship. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLOBS] StuntMan0369 Beta Tester 923 posts 4,848 battles Report post #3 Posted November 14, 2016 One thing that's worth considering for Graf Spee is her potential involvement in the Haifuri collaboration. If they do something similar to the ARP content of offering missions for ship skins from the series, there could be a potential for a 'free' Graf Spee. That's just a speculation though, I have no idea how they're gonna do the Haifuri collab (There's only so much content available, it's a much smaller series compared to Arpeggio). German DD's though, yes. They look very interesting, definitely gonna give them a go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXx_Blogis_xXx Alpha Tester, Players 5,335 posts 35,510 battles Report post #4 Posted November 14, 2016 diff by performance of them maybe i will Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Armo1000 Alpha Tester 686 posts 650 battles Report post #5 Posted November 14, 2016 My only problem with the German DDs is that they seem to be using allot of paper designs where they could be using real historical ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AXIS] svadilfari Players 725 posts 19,416 battles Report post #6 Posted November 14, 2016 no point speculating. if they´re good i´ll play/buy them. if they´re crap, *cough* british cruisers *cough*, i won´t Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[H_FAN] Gnirf Players 3,293 posts 67,362 battles Report post #7 Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) Well I am not a DD player but I will grind them at least to T6/7 or something as that goes reasonably fast and I have done that in the other DD trees. I also want to be familiar with their capabilities when I face them. I have done some forays in DD but I am doing Noob mistakes due to playing DD too little, f.e. how to use smoke to help my own team. Was yelled at yesterday by a NO complaining about me not using smoke and chatting useless noob DD player use smoke or something Did not respond - are not good enough in DDs to tell if he was correct or just angry, next game I was at the top of the team results after some torping. (Farragut) Think DD is fun to get variation but will never concentrate, so T6/7 is enough. Graf Spee I will buy if the offer is reasonable but when not sure, Belfast was told to be OP like König Albert so bought day 1. Graf Spee may not be that so will probably wait if the price is not very attractive. Depends also on her final stats and the gameplay that suits her, LWMs Review I look forward to. Edited November 14, 2016 by Gnirf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BABBY] StringWitch Beta Tester 1,608 posts Report post #8 Posted November 14, 2016 I probably will play the DDs, with it being the class I most consistently enjoy and all, and I have port slots to burn after missions and whatnot. While I'm more interested in the IJN split (really I hope this comes first, or at the same time) and a British line, we haven't had any sort of DD line for over a year. The mix of tube counts on the lower tiers looks interesting (wonder if Omaha A & B hulls will be corrected to carry 2x2 lower & 2x3 upper sometime). Won't be getting the latest FOTM boat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myrmix Players 949 posts 4,642 battles Report post #9 Posted November 14, 2016 I willt ry the german DDs if I know what's their playstyle. You should add a 3rd option there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_MfZ6T7iwWpUC Players 1,139 posts Report post #10 Posted November 14, 2016 no point speculating. if they´re good i´ll play/buy them. if they´re crap, *cough* british cruisers *cough*, i won´t Calling them crap suggests either you have not played them, or dont have the ability to adapt in order to play them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GMT] Phlogistoned Players 779 posts Report post #11 Posted November 14, 2016 Lookng forward to German DD line. Will buy Graf Spee if different, but not obviously OP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OYO] FooFaFie Players 837 posts Report post #12 Posted November 14, 2016 I don't play anything nazi. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pra3y Players 3,021 posts 11,390 battles Report post #13 Posted November 15, 2016 I don't play anything nazi. But u play exclusively a country who did just as much atrocities as them during WW2? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ulcusrodens Players 347 posts 5,755 battles Report post #14 Posted November 15, 2016 I don't play anything nazi. that's just ridiculous. grow up, for god's sake. But u play exclusively a country who did just as much atrocities as them during WW2? you will be hard pressed to find a single nation that hasn't done its fair share of atrocities in the last few centuries... damn it, i even play the only one that still does plenty of such stuff nowadays, and i couldn't care less. mainly because it's a bloody videogame! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_MfZ6T7iwWpUC Players 1,139 posts Report post #15 Posted November 15, 2016 I don't play anything nazi. Neither do I. I play Kriegsmarine ships from WW1 & 2. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #16 Posted November 15, 2016 German dd's certainly. Graf Spee..Probably not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pra3y Players 3,021 posts 11,390 battles Report post #17 Posted November 15, 2016 you will be hard pressed to find a single nation that hasn't done its fair share of atrocities in the last few centuries... damn it, i even play the only one that still does plenty of such stuff nowadays, and i couldn't care less. mainly because it's a bloody videogame! Im actually not that bothered about what the various nations have done. Like you said this is videogame =) I just find it kinda hypocritical for the poster to state that he/she wouldnt play anything Nazi yet is perfectly fine with with IJ. But on topic i wonder how the Graf Spee will fare with only 2 turrets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ALA] Bismarck_chan Players 392 posts 5,321 battles Report post #18 Posted November 15, 2016 Of course I will play them. I play every line and I quite enjoy playing DDs, especially the gun boats. Graf Spee, I dunno. Depends on the price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #19 Posted November 15, 2016 no point speculating. if they´re good i´ll play/buy them. if they´re crap, *cough* british cruisers *cough*, i won´t Ye, RN CL's are performing so badly, especially from tier 6 upwards 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OYO] FooFaFie Players 837 posts Report post #20 Posted November 15, 2016 that's just ridiculous. grow up, for god's sake. you will be hard pressed to find a single nation that hasn't done its fair share of atrocities in the last few centuries... damn it, i even play the only one that still does plenty of such stuff nowadays, and i couldn't care less. mainly because it's a bloody videogame! You seem to forget that WW2 wasn't that long ago and that I knew familymembers that suffered under the nazis. So in name of my grandfather and great- grandfather (both I have known) I will not play 1 pixel of nazi memorabilia. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #21 Posted November 15, 2016 Ye, RN CL's are performing so badly, especially from tier 6 upwards True, their performance is so horrible, it boggles the mind. I'm thinking about selling all my RN CLs, with stats like average damage on my T VI, VII and VIII ships that is on par - or close to it - with my TX CAs, they sure as hell are no keepers. #BuffTheRN #NoHEforRNEnglandIsIndeedAColdPlace #BeingTopOfTheScoreBoardIsNotEnough Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEPES] VeteranGamer84 Players 1,314 posts 52,321 battles Report post #22 Posted November 15, 2016 Will play the German DDs for sure. But I'm wondering, How will they perform in a gun fight with other DDs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_MfZ6T7iwWpUC Players 1,139 posts Report post #23 Posted November 15, 2016 You seem to forget that WW2 wasn't that long ago and that I knew familymembers that suffered under the nazis. So in name of my grandfather and great- grandfather (both I have known) I will not play 1 pixel of nazi memorabilia. That's just a feeble excuse. Nothing like leaving the past in the past is there. We all have relatives who fought, (and some who died) in the war. Does that mean we grow up hating? No it doesn't. That's when you get issues in other countries where children are born into hatred of others just because of something way in the past. The sins of the fathers shouldn't be visited upon the sons. If it bothers you that much, why the hell are you even playing a WW1/2 game? and what if your teammates are in German ships? Do you team-kill them? If your teammate in a German ship needs help, do you help them? or just turn away and leave them? So you wont play German ships. But you are happy to play Japanese ones? Hypocrisy? Oh I think so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #24 Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) You seem to forget that WW2 wasn't that long ago and that I knew familymembers that suffered under the nazis. So in name of my grandfather and great- grandfather (both I have known) I will not play 1 pixel of nazi memorabilia. As above -> I don't think of any kind of ideologie when playing German tanks or ships in games, I think about the game or about the ship/tank in question. I'm Dutch, I also have family which undoubtedly suffered from a divisive ideology, but unlike you it seems I am able to differentiate between 'tech' and ideologie. I despise any divisive ideologies, but I can admire a Tiger tank regardless. Or the Scharnhorst, or the Bismarck. Totally unrelated, well if you'd ask me that is edit: made the comment as generic as I can, I don't want to get caught in any specific discussion about whatever kind of ideology but I do want to voice my opinion regarding games and ideologies in general. Edited November 15, 2016 by mtm78 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OYO] FooFaFie Players 837 posts Report post #25 Posted November 15, 2016 That's just a feeble excuse. Nothing like leaving the past in the past is there. We all have relatives who fought, (and some who died) in the war. Does that mean we grow up hating? No it doesn't. That's when you get issues in other countries where children are born into hatred of others just because of something way in the past. The sins of the fathers shouldn't be visited upon the sons. If it bothers you that much, why the hell are you even playing a WW1/2 game? and what if your teammates are in German ships? Do you team-kill them? If your teammate in a German ship needs help, do you help them? or just turn away and leave them? So you wont play German ships. But you are happy to play Japanese ones? Hypocrisy? Oh I think so. The Japanese has never hurt my family. The key words are ' my family'. For me it isn't what they did to humanity. It's all about what they did against people I really have loved. And if you regard family (recent history) is a feeble excuse that's your own opinion. Personally I have my family close to my hart even if they are already dead. And what other players do that is for them to decide. The question was about will YOU play German DD's. And not will you play in teams with German DD's. And my answer is still NO. But it seems I should give my apologies to the German fanboys for the fact I value my own family history. In WW-games I always have played US, USSR, France or Japan. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites