Divisions, is 3 too many?

[Goats_Beard]

I get that some players enjoy playing with friends but it seems to me that having 25% of a team in a single division has too much impact on the game.

 

With clans on the horizon I can see triple divisions becoming far more common than they are now.

 

Should divisions in wows be limited to 2? 

 

 

[KHETTIFER]

TBH Divisions should be in a separate queue without size restrictions, Grouped players mixed with randoms has been proven in many games time and again to cause major balance issues.

[Tungstonid]

So in most cases you have about the same number of divisions in each team. How is that unbalanced?

I mean in regards to the whole battle and not a 3 man division vs 3 solo people

[NyronGT]

Yes, they should be limited to 1 player only. That way you won't be complaining about too much cooperation between players in random battles.

[Msiiek]

Sometimes 3 man division isn't able to carry team full of noobs. It's random battle. You get random players. You also get random divisions. 3 man division doesn't mean they will carry you. They can also go yolo and just die leaving you 9v12. They can be in enemy team also. As you can see it's random and the larger amount of the games you have played the less players or divisions on your team reflect if you win or loose.

 

Nothing to complain about, 3 is a good number. Not too high and not too low.

[ColonelPete]

It is a multiplayer game. People are suposed to play together, since the beginning of online multiplayer games...

[ThePurpleSmurf]

Oh, this thread remind me of starting a small community on my own that i have someone to division with too. Can't always have others to have fun playing somewhat coordinated or at least to have some people on my team with the same mindset. 

 

[KHETTIFER]

So in most cases you have about the same number of divisions in each team. How is that unbalanced?

I mean in regards to the whole battle and not a 3 man division vs 3 solo people

 

Nonsense, the MM doesn't match divisions at all, its far far more common to see divisions placed on one team and not on the other, and that's the issue as it has been in other games.

 

[Msiiek]

 

Nonsense, the MM doesn't match divisions at all, its far far more common to see divisions placed on one team and not on the other, and that's the issue as it has been in other games.

 

 

You have a maximum of 1 division difference. If not, pics or didnt happened.

[Tungstonid]

 

Nonsense, the MM doesn't match divisions at all, its far far more common to see divisions placed on one team and not on the other, and that's the issue as it has been in other games.

 

 

Wrong, the MM takes division into account so that there is never more than 1 division difference between the teams. At least as far as I know.

So sometimes your team will have one more division. Sometimes the enemy will. It evens out over time.

 

[ThePurpleSmurf]

 

You have a maximum of 1 division difference. If not, pics or didnt happened.

 

Doesn't mean that there can not be an imbalance though. I had already a couple of games with one T8 2-man division facing the enemy team with two 3-man divisions in T9 and T10 ships. This is not quite balanced in my opinion. But then again, a division does not automatically mean good players. Often enough a couple potatoes division up to make a potato salad and 'play for fun' (read do something utterly stupid that cause the team to lose).

[NoirLotus]

I get that some players enjoy playing with friends but it seems to me that having 25% of a team in a single division has too much impact on the game.

 

With clans on the horizon I can see triple divisions becoming far more common than they are now.

 

Should divisions in wows be limited to 2? 

 

 

 

I don't think division size should be reduced, but the MM should deal with them a better way, like putting a top tier div versus another top tier div. At this time a division of Gneisenau can face a division of T5 cruisers and this is really not balanced ...

[Seinta]

Nerf divisions because teamwork is too stronk?

[ElrogGA]

I get that some players enjoy playing with friends but it seems to me that having 25% of a team in a single division has too much impact on the game.

 

With clans on the horizon I can see triple divisions becoming far more common than they are now.

 

Should divisions in wows be limited to 2? 

 

 

 

Find some friends

[Zathras_Grimm]

 I worry about how clans will work and what affect they will have, but I think divisions work fine. How can I be negative about a team that communicates and supports each other, I complain too much about that not happening lol.

 

Purple Smurf makes a good point about the number of Divs but I find as long as I have support against a Div, even if we are 3 single ships against a Div, we still work together and can win.

Msiiek also makes a good point that a Div may not work for the team; however to my detriment most Divs have worked really well against me and have at times completely shut me down (as those in my team have not looked to/been able to support me as their attention was elsewhere). Even being on the receiving end of a good Div can give you faith in the game (if not at the time lol).

[_cosmo]

Yes, divisions of 3 is too much!!!

 

[beercrazy]

personally I feel 3 is too little and needs upping to say something around the 12 mark

[ghostbuster_]

ît should be even 5.

[anonym_i2RxUTEMphjW]

It's funny how people assume that division = automatically better play and advantage for a team. I've seen enough BBs camping together, 'we are CA division so we'll make yolo raid' and so on, to not feel better seeing that my team has more of them at the start.

Not even counting those fails like Myogi+Kawachi in a T5 game.

[Vanhal]

No, three is the right number.

 

[DBoZ_Skyline]

well... imo the division crap is a joke... whenever I get a division or 2 in a game I go " crap... " cause from my experience lets just take a nr... say 100 matches. 70-80 of them the division players overall let the team down. the other 20-30 matches you get a division who wants to play with the rest of the team and at the same time know how to play this game, in them few cases then a division can almost carry the whole team. but for the 75-80% of the time they just let the whole team down and go " YOLO "

 

But in a way to counter that the size of division should be upped to 5 or 6

Why you ask?

Simple, IF and I mean IF we have lets say 5-6 players who is less skilled or around avg. AND if they use some sort of voice chat, they can do damage, ofc 5-6 high skilled players + RNG jesus on theyr side will end the round in 5-6 minutes

 

So my 2 cents is remove divisions all togetter as they are now, or let divisions be 5 or 6 players.

And give it a test run for 1 or 2 months and see if it was a horrible ide or a good one.

Like in other "clan" games I have played I have yet to see a clan with 3 ppl... maybe that says something... Or even played a clan game that has a 3v3 unless its strategy games... and WOWs is not a "strategy" game

And yes before someone says " Hey it is a strategy game!! "  I just say.. ( yay numbnut... did you see the " sign before and after strategy.... )

[Ranyxx]

As a purely solo player, I find divisions of 3 to be fine and the MM rule of not allowing a team to have more than 1 division than the other acceptable.  What does bother me is, as is often the case, you get something like a 3-man Yamato division paired up with a 2-3 man (insert your choice of type) T8 cruiser division.  Naturally, in this case, the MM also fails to match the Yamatos against other Yamatos and, instead you get Montanas instead.

[Niibler]

I would say 3 is too low. I wish I was able to play with more than 3...

[Atris2nd]

I'm gonna assume you were on the receiving end of Papedipupi's division today? Cause I was as well. And my response was to just turn off the game until the Blood Moon passes. 

[HMS_Antelope]

Hi

 

I personally don't like divisions as my experience is generally bad.  I find them to be either rash, rush and die, ignore the team cap agreement, potty mouthed with karma bashing and my personal favourite is the lets use the rest of the team as a meat shield.

 

Occasionally I am pleasantly surprised by a talented team who do great and help the team a great deal.  My personal view is let friends play together as it's a game after all but please no more than three.