Myrmix Players 949 posts 4,642 battles Report post #1 Posted November 9, 2016 Something appeared on the radar: https://worldofwargamingnews.wordpress.com/2016/11/09/deutsche-zerstoerer/ As always, could be completely wrong and fake, but let's think about it. -lots of hp-maneuverability a little bit better than RU (but slower), about same shipsize?-150mm guns (if german might loose pen a lot on distance) - torps seem alright (nothing about the range yet) Maybe with the moving smoke of Perth to brawl? What do you think could be their speciality? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Knight_O_Mare Players 21 posts 8,062 battles Report post #2 Posted November 9, 2016 hope not. I want to work on my UK bb line. And prove the hood was super unlucky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myrmix Players 949 posts 4,642 battles Report post #3 Posted November 9, 2016 hope not. I want to work on my UK bb line. And prove the hood was super unlucky maybe you'll get an all-HE BB-line 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EsaTuunanen Beta Tester 3,552 posts 8,863 battles Report post #4 Posted November 9, 2016 maybe you'll get an all-HE BB-line Don't forget tiny fire chance. - torps seem alright (nothing about the range yet) You sure they're not getting long range torps removed from IJN DDs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueMoon51 Beta Tester 951 posts Report post #5 Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) hope not. I want to work on my UK bb line. And prove the hood was super unlucky Pretty sure you will see the Russian/Soviet BB line before any RN one(which WG have said will come in 2017) Edited November 9, 2016 by BlueMoon51 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXx_Blogis_xXx Alpha Tester, Players 5,335 posts 35,510 battles Report post #6 Posted November 9, 2016 not even sure if i will want german dds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myrmix Players 949 posts 4,642 battles Report post #7 Posted November 9, 2016 You sure they're not getting long range torps removed from IJN DDs? Don't know about range. Only the amount. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Venatacia Beta Tester 872 posts 5,885 battles Report post #8 Posted November 9, 2016 maybe you'll get an all-HE BB-line But you can buy a premium that has AP. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,539 battles Report post #9 Posted November 9, 2016 Already a thread about this since yesterday! With link to the stats you are speculating about!!! OK Plugging my own thread but Search is your freind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #10 Posted November 9, 2016 The question would be how the line proceeds, since some of those DD designs come with 150mm armament, but others come with 128mm and the list I've seen has the 150mm at tier VIII and tier IX and X both get 128mm guns. Naturally the captain builds would be a bit screwed up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,539 battles Report post #11 Posted November 9, 2016 The question would be how the line proceeds, since some of those DD designs come with 150mm armament, but others come with 128mm and the list I've seen has the 150mm at tier VIII and tier IX and X both get 128mm guns. Naturally the captain builds would be a bit screwed up. Not rely!! Tier 6 and 8 get the choice of 128mm or 150mm. No DD has only 150mm. You want AFT keep the 128mm.. PS link to this on other thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #12 Posted November 9, 2016 Not rely!! Tier 6 and 8 get the choice of 128mm or 150mm. No DD has only 150mm. You want AFT keep the 128mm.. PS link to this on other thread Not if the detectability debuff is tied to the hull as I've seen people say. Which is stupid, it should always be tied to the guns. Choice is only a choice if the alternative doesn't get penalized. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,539 battles Report post #13 Posted November 9, 2016 Not if the detectability debuff is tied to the hull as I've seen people say. Which is stupid, it should always be tied to the guns. Choice is only a choice if the alternative doesn't get penalized. How is that relevant at 150mm AFT has no effect on main armament guns. Concealment expert douse not take gun calibre in to account. If you are talking about ability of invis fire. I agree range increase of firing should be tide to gun not hull Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #14 Posted November 9, 2016 If you are talking about ability of invis fire. I agree range increase of firing should be tide to gun not hull Aye, that was what I was going on about. Should've clarified. Other than that, the german DDs actually look quite intriguing with their interesting torpedo armament setups. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr3awsome Alpha Tester 3,769 posts 58 battles Report post #15 Posted November 9, 2016 Thats been known for months. If only the news that it was coming rather than the ships themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POI-Z] xCaptainObviousx Weekend Tester 1,244 posts Report post #16 Posted November 9, 2016 Torpedo range + speed. t2: 5 km stock, 6 km upgraded. Both 49 kts t3: 6 km/49 kts, 7 km/52 kts t4: 7 km/52 kts, 7 km/54 kts t5: 7 km/61 kts, 7.5 km/62 kts t6: 7.5 km/62 kts, 8 km/65 kts t7: 8 km/65 kts, 8.5 km/65 kts t8: 8.5 km/65 kts, 9.5 km/66 kts t9: 9.5 km/66 kts, 10 km/67 kts t10: 10 km/67 kts, 10.5 km/69 kts t2-4 get detected at 0.9-1 km and t5-10 get detected at 1.3-1.4 km (All stats are subject to change) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myrmix Players 949 posts 4,642 battles Report post #17 Posted November 9, 2016 Torpedo range + speed. t2: 5 km stock, 6 km upgraded. Both 49 kts t3: 6 km/49 kts, 7 km/52 kts t4: 7 km/52 kts, 7 km/54 kts t5: 7 km/61 kts, 7.5 km/62 kts t6: 7.5 km/62 kts, 8 km/65 kts t7: 8 km/65 kts, 8.5 km/65 kts t8: 8.5 km/65 kts, 9.5 km/66 kts t9: 9.5 km/66 kts, 10 km/67 kts t10: 10 km/67 kts, 10.5 km/69 kts t2-4 get detected at 0.9-1 km and t5-10 get detected at 1.3-1.4 km (All stats are subject to change) So you can stealth torp with them, although it's a close with some ships. Just hope we don't get a tree full with Campeltowns if they make the guns bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEPES] VeteranGamer84 Players 1,314 posts 52,321 battles Report post #18 Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) In your opinion, What can differentiate the German DD line from others? Only the 150mm gun calibre? Edited November 9, 2016 by ABED1984 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GLUE_] Fino_93 Players 390 posts 9,642 battles Report post #19 Posted November 10, 2016 I'm sure someone had posted them before me, but i can't find them so, here you are.From the official facebook page: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Unintentional_submarine [SPUDS] Beta Tester 4,052 posts 8,765 battles Report post #20 Posted November 10, 2016 Aye, that was what I was going on about. Should've clarified. Other than that, the german DDs actually look quite intriguing with their interesting torpedo armament setups. At present both Ernst Gaede and Z-23 appear to have the 150mm detection increase in both A and B hulls, while the 128mm armed ships have detection increase fitting those guns. Which is all sorts of stupid honestly. I am at present quite wary of the 150s. I have noticed that they do have an increased HE performance, in fact they are quite similar to the later tiers of Japanese DD HE (and these appears to be in for a hefty nerf), but with better fire chance and lower shell speed, otherwise very similar (rate of fire, turret traverse and damage per shell) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONI] MoveZig Players 1,622 posts 20,823 battles Report post #21 Posted November 10, 2016 So, a line of Khabas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEC] The_Gathering Beta Tester 226 posts Report post #22 Posted November 10, 2016 hope not. I want to work on my UK bb line. And prove the hood was super unlucky HMS Hood was super unlucky alright; unlucky in being built as a battlecruiser in the WW1 era and having to square off vs The Bismarck, a WW2 era fully fledged battleship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,539 battles Report post #23 Posted November 10, 2016 So you can stealth torp with them, although it's a close with some ships. Just hope we don't get a tree full with Campeltowns if they make the guns bad. Campeltown has good guns. just 1 less than Wicks but much much better torpedoes In your opinion, What can differentiate the German DD line from others? Only the 150mm gun calibre? Only the tier 6 and 8 get the choice of 150mm so its not rely a tech tree thing! To me they look like a jack or all trades. Guns not quite as good as RuN or USN but a lot better than IJN But torps are better the RuN and IJN. surface detect-ability is about the same as USN ships. The shorter range and faster Muzzle velocity of the guns should make them more like the Russian DD guns than the USN DD guns performance wise. My approximation . Think Błyskawica sort of play stile Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #24 Posted November 10, 2016 Only the tier 6 and 8 get the choice of 150mm so its not rely a tech tree thing! To me they look like a jack or all trades. Guns not quite as good as RuN or USN but a lot better than IJN But torps are better the RuN and IJN. surface detect-ability is about the same as USN ships. The shorter range and faster Muzzle velocity of the guns should make them more like the Russian DD guns than the USN DD guns performance wise. My approximation . Think Błyskawica sort of play stile Considering I bloody love the Blys, a whole line that plays like it would be AMAZING. Slightly less dpm compared to the US DDs, but with good alpha (depending on the HE damage). Possibly solid AP, but not quite as good, nor quite as good ballistics as the RU guns (but possibly also enjoying less of a detectability debuff in return). Less torpedo alpha than all the other DD lines, but the torpedoes itself are good (solid damage, good speed, solid range, good torp detectability). Maybe even the possibility to singlefire torpedoes like the RN CL torpedoes. Detectability comparable with US DDs (slightly worse, but trading that with a bit more health since the ships are bigger). Hnnnnngg! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BUSHI] CuddlyPanda Players 352 posts 3,883 battles Report post #25 Posted November 10, 2016 Considering I bloody love the Blys, a whole line that plays like it would be AMAZING. Slightly less dpm compared to the US DDs, but with good alpha (depending on the HE damage). Possibly solid AP, but not quite as good, nor quite as good ballistics as the RU guns (but possibly also enjoying less of a detectability debuff in return). Less torpedo alpha than all the other DD lines, but the torpedoes itself are good (solid damage, good speed, solid range, good torp detectability). Maybe even the possibility to singlefire torpedoes like the RN CL torpedoes. Detectability comparable with US DDs (slightly worse, but trading that with a bit more health since the ships are bigger). Hnnnnngg! And let us not forget that excellent German hydro too! Can't wait for these ships to arrive in-game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
