USS Missouri + KMS DDs + KMS Graf Spee preliminary stats (5.15 ST)

[Verdius]

On the other hand, the torps seem to be rather good, even though they lack some damage.

 

With such a low reload it will be easier to spam flooding on ships so that might compensate as well. 

Not to mention that the torps are 20 times stealthier than anything the IJN gets so they will hit far more.

A tier 5 ships with just 105mm guns sounds rather horrible however. The tier 8 and 10 seem rather terrifying.

 

Overall it seems like another line that heavily outclasses the IJN DDs.

[romarkov]

So, that means only smoke for the T10 DD?

 

On the other hand, the torps seem to be rather good, even though they lack some damage.

 

T7-T10 both smoke and hydro, T6 I'm not sure. Until T5 only smoke.

[NameChangingIsToExpensiv]

How long does the smoke last? 

[DandyDozer]

What we can expect next? UK BB? Other nations? I am so curious:-)

[fumtu]

Tier IX and X : 15 RPM, traverse speed 18 deg/s

Tier VIII : 9 RPM, traverse speed 8 deg/s

Tier VII : 15 RPM,  traverse speed 8 deg/s

Tier VI : 8 RPM for 150 mm, 11,7 RPM for 128 mm, traverse speed 8 deg/s

Tier II-V :  15 RPM,  traverse speed 10 deg/s

 

Well RoF is good. Turret traverse for T9 and T10 is good, T6 and T8 acceptable considering that they use 150mm guns, T7 quite slow but still better than IJN, T2-5 average. Looks really good.

 

So better guns than IJN and better functional torps than IJN at high and mid tiers (remember that Minekaze will lose its top torps and will have 57kts 10k damage torps, while the Germans get 7.5km at 62kts at tier 5, Mutsuki gets 6km at 64kts, lol).

 

Agree. Even before they release new IJN dds they look far from top or even balance. Really hope they will buff them. And I would accept faster, stealthier but lower damage torps over slower, easer detectable but higher damage ones any time. IJN dds are really loosing they purpose.

 

[romarkov]

Torpedo stats (launcher config - speed - range - detectability range - reload) in top configuration + basic ship detectability range:

T5 -> 2x3 - 62 kn - 7,5 km - 1,3 km - 68 sec - 7,02 km

T6 -> 2x4 - 65 kn - 8,0 km - 1,3 km - 90 sec - 7,56 km

T7 -> 2x4 - 65 kn - 8,5 km - 1,3 km - 90 sec - 7,74 km

T8 -> 2x4 - 66 kn - 9,5 km - 1,4 km - 90 sec - 7,92 km

T9 -> 2x4 - 67 kn - 10 km - 1,4 km - 90 sec - 7,56 km

T10 -> 2x4 - 69 kn - 10,5 km - 1,4 km - 90 sec - 8,1 km

[Vulgarny]

Powercreep is real

[romarkov]

How long does the smoke last? 

Like IJN/Russian ones.

T7 85 sec, T8 89 sec, T9 93 sec and T10 97 sec.

[NameChangingIsToExpensiv]

Like IJN/Russian ones.

T7 85 sec, T8 89 sec, T9 93 sec and T10 97 sec.

 

As I expected ty

[Takeda92]

Torpedo stats (launcher config - speed - range - detectability range - reload) in top configuration:

T5 -> 2x3 - 62 kn - 7,5 km - 1,3 km - 68 sec

T6 -> 2x4 - 65 kn - 8,0 km - 1,3 km - 90 sec

T7 -> 2x4 - 65 kn - 8,5 km - 1,3 km - 90 sec

T8 -> 2x4 - 66 kn - 9,5 km - 1,4 km - 90 sec

T9 -> 2x4 - 67 kn - 10 km - 1,4 km - 90 sec

T10 -> 2x4 - 69 kn - 10,5 km - 1,4 km - 90 sec

 

To note:

T9   Kagero (future Yuugumo) has 2x4 - 67 kn - 10 km - 1.9km - 120 seconds reload. Difference is only 21k damage vs 15k damage.

 

T5   Minekaze(new): 3x2 - 7 km - 57 kn - 1.4 km - 45 sec (11k damage)

T5   Mutsuki(new): 2x3 - 6 km - 64 kts - (don't remember concealment but rather high) - 68 sec (15k damage)

 

The tier 5 german DD will have a stealth torp window of 500 meters (camo not included)

[1MajorKoenig]

All sounds great and I am looking forward to the line and Spee!

 

However I also agree that the IJN DDs need some love. Such beautiful ships - can't really understand why they are hit so bad by WG.

 

They should be the line with the strongest torpedoes! If WG nerfs the hell out of torps (which is wrong imo) the IJN torps still need to be the best among the (weak) torps! It's hilarious that a T3 Campletown got 7.5km torps, Leningrad gets them and a IJN 610mm Torp has 6km on T6. That's just wrong.

 

Sorry for the OT

[EsaTuunanen]

Well RoF is good. Turret traverse for T9 and T10 is good, T6 and T8 acceptable considering that they use 150mm guns, T7 quite slow but still better than IJN, T2-5 average.

10 degrees per second at T2-5 is more than competitive.

In fact it's same traverse speed as in Clemson.

 

So better guns than IJN and better functional torps than IJN at high and mid tiers (remember that Minekaze will lose its top torps and will have 57kts 10k damage torps, while the Germans get 7.5km at 62kts at tier 5, Mutsuki gets 6km at 64kts, lol).

With that combination of torps and (no doubt flat trajectory) guns I would expect also USN DDs losing players.

[rancidpunk]

I suppose the Missouri would be worth 80 Euros but only if you won gold in it every game instead of credits

 

[Takeda92]

I suppose the Missouri would be worth 80 Euros but only if you won gold in it every game instead of credits

 

WG business  model is truely scary. Take one of your ships, copy paste it with different name, slight stat changes and attached it to a celebrity, and profit.

 

Just go to the NA forum and see how many people who are blindly willing to pay just for some eye candy. You can't call something expensive when so many players are willing to pay for it.

[fumtu]

10 degrees per second at T2-5 is more than competitive.

In fact it's same traverse speed as in Clemson.

 

With that combination of torps and (no doubt flat trajectory) guns I would expect also USN DDs losing players.

 

Yes you are right, 10 deg per sec is good for that tiers, except maybe for T5, more because of current MM but still not bad. And yes they could take place of the best or the most useful dds in the game. Maybe not tier for tier but still not far from top.

[G01ngToxicCommand0]

 

 

It will sell like fresh bread

 

1. It is a BB

2. It is a premium BB

3. It is tier 9 BB !

4 . Most people don't care what they buy, as long it is big , has big guns and high tier it is worth buying

 

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And reload on thoswe glorious german guns will be? tiers 7-10

 

And not to forget: Steven f****** Seagal as captain

[Comrad_StaIin]

I am asking myself where this Z-52 comes from I would have expected the Z-45 to be tier ten (ya know the german Khabarovsk)

[Takeda92]

Is there anything about a new premium called Oleg?

[Don71]

Salve,

 

Z52 is a Z-1944 destroyer design.

 

http://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/ships/destroyer/zerstorer1944/index.html

[DandyDozer]

Z-1944 was planned with diesel engines.... i guess this ship will have nice acceleration, hopefully they wont use sounds from WOT:-)

[Comrad_StaIin]

Salve,

 

Z52 is a Z-1944 destroyer design.

 

http://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/ships/destroyer/zerstorer1944/index.html

 

the tier 9 looks like that

the tier 10 looks more like a Z-45 without the Cäsar Turret

 

Oh never mind just checked 

you are right

this is the tier 9

http://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/ships/destroyer/zerstorer1936c/index.html

[EsaTuunanen]

Yes you are right, 10 deg per sec is good for that tiers, except maybe for T5

It's quite good even at T5.

Remember that gun traverse rate of Soviet DDs is 5 degrees per second.

[Darth_Glorious]

Is there anything about a new premium called Oleg?

 

It's basically a stock Bogatyr with more HP and better rudder shift time 

[FM6a]

I can feel the butthurt of people who will buy 20k gold to get stock Iowa

 

[1MajorKoenig]

 

It's basically a stock Bogatyr with more HP and better rudder shift time 

 

Really another Russian Premium...? Wow ok.

 

Do you know about Shinonome? I heard she might get 8km torps instead of the stock Mutsuki ones. Is there any truth in it or just wishful thinking?