Pivke Beta Tester 542 posts 3,394 battles Report post #1 Posted November 7, 2016 i am seeking advice or recommendation on a good tier 6 premium ship. a bit of background: at the moment i have Murmansk and Gremyaschy for money making and i like them both and i (mostly) do good with them. i also have a friend which i play often with in platoon. he is a die-hard battleship player and always plays his Fuso when he needs credits gain. so which tier 6 premium ship is good credit maker and fun to play? (bonus points if it can make a nice duo with Fuso somehow XD ) note that im more of a cruiser-destroyer player type, slow speed and slow turret turning make me bored... but i can make a battleship work too... so far i have my eye on 3 main candidates: Dunkerque (i hear its really bad?) Molotov (it looks its just a bigger tier Kirov, which i didnt like a lot :/ and that worries me) Anshan (a bigger Gremyaschy, might be quite fun) help me spend my doubloons/cash in a wise way! and i will be forever grateful to you for the next month or so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenerallKrizmuz Players 711 posts Report post #2 Posted November 7, 2016 Molotov because of laser beam Donskoi guns. Anshan will just be a let-down for Gremy owners. Dunkerque is just a travesty for folks with a weird fetish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GOEPT] Crusherheads [GOEPT] Weekend Tester 559 posts Report post #3 Posted November 7, 2016 Molotov gets deleted fast. Dunker gets deleted fast and his guns are sht. So in the end, yeah get Anshan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral_Nightingale Players 62 posts 17,317 battles Report post #4 Posted November 7, 2016 Molotov is indeed a nice choice squishy but it can hit very hard and loves setting fires aswell it's in the name for a reason for desroyers on premium i would say go tier 7 Bliscawica and leningrad are very awesome DD's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #5 Posted November 7, 2016 Why not stick to regular tier VI ships? New Mexico, Fusou, Bayern, Farragut and Cleveland for example are all good ships for their tier and it's not like you're going to lose any credits playing those. The only thing you'd miss is the crew training aspect but you also don't really need a highly skilled captain for joyrides at tier VI anyway. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #6 Posted November 7, 2016 Anshan is awesome, plus it gets +50% free XP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pivke Beta Tester 542 posts 3,394 battles Report post #7 Posted November 7, 2016 Why not stick to regular tier VI ships? New Mexico, Fusou, Bayern, Farragut and Cleveland for example are all good ships for their tier and it's not like you're going to lose any credits playing those. The only thing you'd miss is the crew training aspect but you also don't really need a highly skilled captain for joyrides at tier VI anyway. i do have cleveland but dont realy like it a lot because shell travel time and arcs new mexico was sold and capitan is in north carolina now bayern is still in stock mode so im not really impressed with it but mostly i would like to cranck it up and get a premium Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MIRAI] _cosmo Players 591 posts 7,809 battles Report post #8 Posted November 7, 2016 Molotov is nice, but really punishing if you mess up. There are no safety nets(smoke, good camo), and the range is average(except when using spotter plane), so you always have to fight while risking being fired upon. You need a lot of map awareness to make it work, it's a kirov at t6. Guns are excelent, though. Unfortunately, i do not know what else to recommend at t6. My fav prems start at t7(blysk/leningrad, belfast). If the molotov challenge is not appealing to you, maybe get an arizona, if you liked new mexico? It could benefit from a high captain, and also help train it while you make money. You could also head someplace together as 2 coordinating bbs. Never tried anshan/dunq, so no comment from me there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #9 Posted November 7, 2016 but mostly i would like to cranck it up and get a premium In that case you shouldn't look at tier VI. If you want a good premium ship, look at the high tier ones, simply because they make the most credits and they make very good XP in those hightier games which is valuable if you want to use them as crew (re-) trainers: Atago is an excellent ship to (re-) train cruiser (and BB) captains with it and a very good cruiser all by itself. Mikhail Kutuzov is likewise an excellent (re-) trainer for VMF cruiser captains and again a very competitive cruiser. Tirpitz is excellent for BB captain (re-) training and a joy to ride with as a battleship. At tier VII the Scharnhorst (same as the Tirpitz, but it also synergizes very well with German cruiser captains) is also highly recommendable, as is the Belfast for the RN cruiserline. The Blyskawica is also great, but fails in the crew trainer department since it can only employ polish captains and there is only one polish ship ... but the ship is amazing so if you just want a nifty premium DD, knock yourself out with the Blys. Hightier premiums offer excellent performances (both in credits earning and training), but they're also expensive. Lower tier ships typically are less effective, but also cost less, so it's up to you to decide how much you're willing to spend. Also make sure to inform yourself in those prospective choices to see how they synergize with captain builds you might want to use for a line (Leningrad for example needs different skills compared to the regular VMF DDs to really shine, which makes her a questionable crew trainer, but she still earns plenty credits). Watch some Flame, iChase, Notser etc. premium ship impressions as they typically give some good hints in those regards. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #10 Posted November 7, 2016 As other have put it, go for T7. Far better choice. The Scharnhorst is a beast Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral_Noif Weekend Tester 873 posts 6,620 battles Report post #11 Posted November 7, 2016 I don't see anything wrong about Dunkerque. I love play on Dunkerque and I can make good money maker as Tier 6 IF you can adapt and know how to play on her. It might not fit for all players. Warspite, Arizona and Molotov are are fine choices. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XbodzioXplX Players 6,008 posts 7,043 battles Report post #12 Posted November 7, 2016 Anshan is awesome, plus it gets +50% free XP. My feeling about this ship is mixed. It's a gun ship with very fast torpedoes (Błyskawica is gun ship too, but her torpedoes are slow). But what is very awful is her gun travers. I use perk captain and even module to make them swing faster. And yes - 50% to free XP is nice. Take Papa Papa signal and 1-3k is yours. As other have put it, go for T7. Far better choice. The Scharnhorst is a beast Totally agree! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #13 Posted November 7, 2016 so far i have my eye on 3 main candidates: Dunkerque (i hear its really bad?) You heard wrong, it's a fantastic ship, just not for everyone. It has potent guns and their layout allows you to always show a very narrow profile to the enemy. It's fast enough to be where it needs to be, and has enough armor, speed and agility, secondaries, firepower, hp and AA (with a 10pt captain or more) to be rather independent. If you're looking for a fast tier6 ship to play in a division in which you won't get killed in the first 5 minutes, even if you try really hard, you might want to give it some more thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LXT] _interceptor_80 Players 385 posts 20,233 battles Report post #14 Posted November 7, 2016 I prefer Molotov because of laser guns non-stop citadels fun Anshan is copy/paste of Gremmy tier 6 - hard for you to get new fun experience Dunker is OK ship and the best combination for Fuso division She is the best BB HE spammer + Fuso AP = 100% fun and efficiency You can go together and play 90% of time together (with DD you can die fast and then 15 mins to wait for Fuso end battle...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Gojuadorai Players 2,832 posts 21,712 battles Report post #15 Posted November 7, 2016 skip the T6 prem and buy a T8 atago or kutuzov Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #16 Posted November 7, 2016 If tier 7 is an option, go for Błyskawica, she is/should be available in tech tree to buy with doubloons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COSTS] Hanszeehock Alpha Tester 3,692 posts 5,959 battles Report post #17 Posted November 7, 2016 If you want something different, wait for the Perth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,951 battles Report post #18 Posted November 7, 2016 I like destroyers. Of the options put forward I'd take Anshan but be aware that the commander can't cross train on any other ship except Yo Lang, Tier VIII DD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Kenliero Players 2,478 posts 11,195 battles Report post #19 Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) Just FYI guys... Anshan camo has +50% XP from battles, but it ALSO has +100% FREE XP(not 50 like someone said). I would buy Anshan from those options(I have all 3). Edited November 7, 2016 by Kenliero Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] beercrazy [KLUNJ] Beta Tester 1,509 posts 11,905 battles Report post #20 Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) I got the Anshan and Molotov and would recommend them both its a case of do you prefer dd play or cruiser play the most edit: how did I forget you can also buy the warspite and Arizona and both are very nice bbs but the Arizona is more easier to work the magic Edited November 7, 2016 by beercrazy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #21 Posted November 7, 2016 I have and like all of the three, but suggeting one is difficult. I'd say pick the one class that you're compfy in, if you have the Gremy, than the Anshan is almost the same, with worse detection range. Molotov is a floating citadel and depends on both, your map awareness and your team mates tanking damage for you. Dunkirque is quite good if you know what you are doing, just remember it's a fast BB and tanking isn't her strongsuit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corvi Beta Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,147 posts 16,279 battles Report post #22 Posted November 7, 2016 Dunkerque is a beast actually if you have half a brain to process how to play with it. Its not by accident the second best performing tier 6 ship. Molotov is really nice thou too, albeit a bit squishy imo, but it rapes hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferry_25 Players 4,392 posts 12,107 battles Report post #23 Posted November 7, 2016 If those are your options I'd recommend Molotov. Its a 1 of a kind ship: downside it can withstand almost nothing. Don't bother to check the armor layout. Because it has no armor. Refrain from drawing early attention. If you can do that: those guns are glorious. AFAIK they are T9 guns. If the battle is nicely raging, join the mix and they won't know what hit them! Anshan: if you're into Russian DD's, it's very nice. What I know it is a subpar DD compared to Granny. Don't have the old lady though so I can't confirm that insight. I like the longer torp range a lot. DQ?? Didn't make up my mind yet. Guns can pack a punch but the style is IMO a bit tedious: only 1 dimensional: either move forward or backwards. In most of the cases that is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] Basti542 Players 2,350 posts 15,951 battles Report post #24 Posted November 7, 2016 If you are going with a fuso and like the gremy - the only choice is the ashan (i own her myself). It is the best Tier 6 DD and it has good guns / hp. Detection range ist okish, and you Need to train a new captain, but hey you need a Goal :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SINT] Jvd2000 Players 1,639 posts 31,173 battles Report post #25 Posted November 7, 2016 First of all i prefer tier 6 game play. Sure you can meet upwards tier 8 and you might struggle but i think its preferable to a tier 7 premium taking into regard its matchmaking. So taking a tier 6 premium is a good go! Tier 6 premium: The Molotov, nice and a good ship but you have to be aware of its weakness. Can dish out a lot of dmg (and so credits) but you have to stay alive long enough to make you fabulous guns do their work. You are low armored and your enemy knows that. Your visibility is also adding to that weakness. How did you like the Kirov? (train your Russian captains) The Dunkerque. I have it and i like it. Do well in it. Its high speed makes it useful even in higher tierplay. Your low armor makes you prone to dmg from the front by tier 6 BB with 15 inch guns (Bayern, Warspite) and all higher tiered ships. Dont stay iddle and think you can tank with bow forward. keep moving. It requires smart play. You will be spotted quite early and even if you are fast, your not maneuverable enough to escape good CV players. You aa is not that good either. I really rushed my captain to the first 10 skill points to upgrade my AA protection (still not good but less bad). Find the guns accurate enough to put dread in enemy cruiser and punish BB's that underestimate you. Only able to train French captains (French line is until now limited to Dunkerque) The Warspite. Good ship, one of the better tier 6 " classic" battleships. Lesser guns but larger size. Train your British captains Thea Arizona. I see it as a slightly inferior NM. Maybe more tanky but with much less AA. Did you like the NM? Great to train you US captains. The tier6 DD? Not much to say about it, How did you like the Grevny (tuier 5 russian dd) because its and upgraded model. (almost worthless captain train skill ability because of very limited faction) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites