Coop battles.

[andreiversus]

Good evening,i wanted to ask,if maybe in the future patches is still a chance to upgrade coop battles with more experience and credits,many players wants sometimes to relax in coop,after some random battle,ranked ofcourse,and we get few experience and credits compared with random,at least i was hopping make the coop battles earn at least 50% more credits and experience(for example if i play a random battle with fuso doing 60000 damage,i get like almost 1000 experience and nice credits like 100000-150000,if i play coop i don't get even the half of 1000 experience and 100000 credits).So i hope,soon coop battle will be updated.

[Oely001]

You want more XP and credits for relaxing?

[ScratxNeko]

Given how moronically easy coop battles are, giving more rewards to them just sounds wrong to me...

[krazypenguin]

The only thing I want to see implemented in regard to Coop mode is the option to have a setting on my account that when I press "Battle" after a patch or special game mode and WG have set it so the client defaults to coop but I haven't noticed, I get prompted with something like "this is coop, are you sure you want to waste your daily double like this?"

 

With regards to the rewards for this mode, they match the effort/skill required to win - I wouldn't buff them.

[IanH755]

I'd like to see Co-OP become "zero cost" at T4 just like the training room where it costs you nothing (not even flags or 1st win bonus) but you don't earn any credits or XP either.

 

WG's idea of the Co-Op is to help new players get into the game. By T4 they should be playing Random games to make XP/Credits leaving the Co-Op for the "relaxed stress free fun" which costs/wins nothing.

[DreadArchangel]

You'll get no help from this forum, its stuck in the dark ages when it comes to pve.

[Vaderan]

Co-Op is the way to  play enjoy this game, if you are a half-way skilled player and don´t want to die by a heart attack every second PvP or ranked game due to the incredible, unbeleavable, braindead stuff many of your teammates pull off, especially when rngesus decided to be against you that battle.

 

WoWs is a game that deserves better than just a few, slightly different PvP modes, which are usually more a source of frustration than fun.

There are games out there with comparable origins, and they show with great success, that a well implemented PvE mode can be very attractive and successfull.

It doesn´t necessarily need to be as rewarding as PvP, but it could offer more diversity, and it should count for dailies or missions.

 

Just because there are players out there, who prefer PvP over all, this doesn´t apply to any player out there. Since this game provides the platform to attract and satisfy both types of players, why don´t make use of it?

[Admiral_noodle]

I'd like to see easy, medium and hard mode in pve. The Halloween event proves it can be done (and it's been done in armoured warfare)

 

With scenarios and good rewards but high risk in hard mode. 

[Shirakami_Kon]

Co-Op is the way to  play enjoy this game, if you are a half-way skilled player and don´t want to die by a heart attack every second PvP or ranked game due to the incredible, unbeleavable, braindead stuff many of your teammates pull off, especially when rngesus decided to be against you that battle.

 

WoWs is a game that deserves better than just a few, slightly different PvP modes, which are usually more a source of frustration than fun.

There are games out there with comparable origins, and they show with great success, that a well implemented PvE mode can be very attractive and successfull.

It doesn´t necessarily need to be as rewarding as PvP, but it could offer more diversity, and it should count for dailies or missions.

 

Just because there are players out there, who prefer PvP over all, this doesn´t apply to any player out there. Since this game provides the platform to attract and satisfy both types of players, why don´t make use of it?

 

Because, you know... there's so much people over here that if you don't play the same mode as them you are an inferior being that deserves nothing so because co-op is against bots and not "real players that on average greatly surpass any skill or strategy that a team of bots together can bring" co-op should be completely unrewarded and unplayable, as someone said early don't expect any help or expect to be able bring up any idea for co-op that could be considered here, don't waste your time.

[ScratxNeko]

Look, let me elaborate... IF WG makes an actually CHALLENGING PvE mode, then it's fine to give appropriate rewards.

 

The current "Beat up the stupid bot" mode isn't challenging at all, therefore it shouldn't hand out much in the way of rewards either. Coop at the moment pretty much works only as a trainer for basic gunnery and movement. A primer to get you in the PvP action. If you can't have fun because it's PvP, okay, stick to PvE... but this game isn't really currently designed to give you a proper PvE experience.

[xXx_Blogis_xXx]

not even worth play coop , unless its event

[RenamedUser_92906789]

They should reskin haloween to normal and put it in coop. Relaxed?

 

[Nethraniel]

 

Because, you know... there's so much people over here that if you don't play the same mode as them you are an inferior being that deserves nothing so because co-op is against bots and not "real players that on average greatly surpass any skill or strategy that a team of bots together can bring" co-op should be completely unrewarded and unplayable, as someone said early don't expect any help or expect to be able bring up any idea for co-op that could be considered here, don't waste your time.

 

I think you are missing the point of most of these people. Coop in it's recent state is a walk in the park... so even bad players have >90% WR in coop. If you really have a challenging coop mode with similar average WR as random, nobody would be against better rewards.

However, at the moment you learn almost nothing in coop, so if you are talking about understanding the game details, coop is in fact inferior.

[Oely001]

Many (bad) players use Coop to level up to higher tiers. This is not the purpose of Coop and should not be enforced by additional XP/credits. You want the Yamato and all that cool stuff? Play PvP.

[RobS80]

The only thing I want to see implemented in regard to Coop mode is the option to have a setting on my account that when I press "Battle" after a patch or special game mode and WG have set it so the client defaults to coop but I haven't noticed, I get prompted with something like "this is coop, are you sure you want to waste your daily double like this?"

 

With regards to the rewards for this mode, they match the effort/skill required to win - I wouldn't buff them.

 

God yeah, been there and done that

[Sophia_Mus]

I will always defend co-op mode against those who say it is only low grade training. I have been in a lot of random battles, where my teammates, (myself included) and or the enemy team, plays even worse than the bots given the same ships and tier.

That being said the current exp/credits ratio in co-op mode,(50% of what you get from random), is as it should be imo.

 

But Random only fellas, PLZ.! stop being rude towards co-op only players and visa versa.

 

If you don't like a sudden game mode, THEN JUST DON'T PLAY IT! how hard can it be?

 

Good luck on the high seas, remember to be civil guys.

[robertsrevenge]

I only play coop had enough of the tanks to last a lifetime , with the coop would say the rewards are ok as they are you need to have premium time for more xp credits , it does help to spend some real cash to support the game after all its free .

 

 

[andreiversus]

Before i start to play this game i had 45% winrate,after some battles,after i watched all naval academy episodes i preffered communicate with players,give me advices about ships,upgrades,etc,my winrate grows to 54%,and i hope it will still growing(i don't consider myself a low grade or a noob anymore,thats my opinion anyway),the point and the idea why i created this topic is this:i played some random battles,i understand some players are not in the mood with communication,but to be rude instead of giving me advice,or help me ,it is that player who insulting making me idiot,noob,etc,and f**ks your day,after some 5-10 random battles,i preffer relax 2-3 coop games,then i go try play random again.For coop battles for that 2-3 coop games who i play i preffer get at least 50% of rewards ,and i get not even the half compared to random,and to make people play few coop games and play mostly random battles or ranked,etc,they should limit coop tier untill tier 6,you can play coop with maximum tier 6,but at least i will appreciate in return the more 50% rewards.

(PS:That's the problem with some players and always will have noobs in team,because (now i talk in general) instead you giving advices,try to help him,you insult him,and because of that you make that players to not listen you anymore.)

You want more XP and credits for relaxing?

Answer:So yea,thats why i want some 50% more rewards in coop,for relaxing,that's my answer.(i hope you understood me).

[Sophia_Mus]

Well I honestly only play random mode because I have to in order to get my sweet ARP ships, (won't get Nachi though as the sink 20 russian ships is impossible).

I really like co-op mode and have great fun playing it. In random I am a low lvl. player at,(47% winrate) but in co-op I rank decently, (95% winrate). As I don't like

to drag my teammates down, co-op mode with premium time gives me almost as much as random without premium time, and with plenty of dubloons to free exp,

I have managed to get 2 t9 and 1 t10 so far.

[SerPurr]

My guess would be a lot of people play Coop not because they suck or think they do but because they just don't want to put themselves in the crosshairs of the Randoms chat mayhem. Since the option is there, they choose to use it quite consciously. I also think it's a fair bet most of the players actually playing a lot of Coop do not do so because they like to flatter their egos with easy wins. Most would probably welcome a somewhat more challenging mode or various difficulty levels. Also please keep in mind that even though the rewards in Coop are quite low (I keep hearing this 50% thing, but I'm willing to bet it's not anywhere near that, especially on higher tiers. More like 1/3rd on average since doing anywhere over a 1000 base xp means you almost have to kill ALL bots solo or play a phenomenal game with either a gigantic damage count as a low tier against all higher tiers etc...), the costs are exactly the same as in Randoms. You also don't gain any flags of sorts. I'm not saying you should. Just putting this whole 'easy' thing a bit in perspective. Sure, even if it's easy, the rewards are pretty abysmal too.

[Oely001]

@Leonidt: You can play Coop as much as you want, but you won't level up to high tiers. To reach Tier VI is no problem at all, in Random and in Coop. So where is the problem? To get some of the cool ships on T8-10 is some kind of reward; bashing bots is fun - I do it regularly, too - but nothing you deserve a reward for.

[SerPurr]

@Leonidt: You can play Coop as much as you want, but you won't level up to high tiers. To reach Tier VI is no problem at all, in Random and in Coop. So where is the problem? To get some of the cool ships on T8-10 is some kind of reward; bashing bots is fun - I do it regularly, too - but nothing you deserve a reward for.

 

I've played almost 4K Coop battles and got all my tier X ships that way. And yes, it has cost me so much money I could've probably traveled around the world twice 

[Shirakami_Kon]

 

I think you are missing the point of most of these people. Coop in it's recent state is a walk in the park... so even bad players have >90% WR in coop. If you really have a challenging coop mode with similar average WR as random, nobody would be against better rewards.

However, at the moment you learn almost nothing in coop, so if you are talking about understanding the game details, coop is in fact inferior.

 

I also agree that co-op it's too easy as it is now, but it can turn into something challenging worth of better rewards (aka the Halloween event that already not everyone can grasp to understand) so it's not like it is impossible to improve co-op to something that's worth of better rewards, but even with that we'll have those players that would be pissed off if something like that gives credits and XP and other rewards if it's a co-op mode.

[xThanatosVIx]

The reward system in any Wargaming game is utter trash to begin with.

It relies mainly on the performance of your team and not yourself.

 

Pulled your weight but lost ? 

- Enjoy as much xp as the afk in the winning team! - Thats wargaming rewards for you.

 

I haven't played the game for eleven months, and my total game count is around 200. So yes I'm a newbie to World of Warships, but as long as I get rewarded worse for training in coop than for being a liabilty to my team in PvP, there is no point in coop.

Armored Warfare managed both, to create a great PvE mode and to develop a fair performance based reward system. Too bad WG still didn't manage to learn either of these things.

[Siegfried389]

 

WG ignore the fact, that many of players from a  mmorg-game  are PVE.

normal, on a world of warcraft -server 50% playing pve

because pvp ist too stress also chat-comments , i want joy and no stress, too many ego's , everyone will give orders, ect

i need this not !!

and also here , look below link

 

@xThanatosVIx: Armored Warfare managed both, to create a great PvE mode

Thanks for this info !   i will visit their site

 

http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/42864-co-op-pve-or-random-battle-pvp-and-why/page__st__20

PVE=28,57%   , PVP =28%  had so votet !!   and WG ignore this

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