[IPHS] vecasa Players 10 posts 18,162 battles Report post #1 Posted November 6, 2016 After many battles with this ship I think that it's really weak. Most of times with a single battleship shell I lost half of my points and half of time with another couple of hit the cruise sunk and it's strange. It's a big cruiser... there is something wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LXT] x16___zoom Players 52 posts 7,359 battles Report post #2 Posted November 6, 2016 After New Orleans worst tier 8 CA 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blaster1112 Beta Tester 139 posts 3,406 battles Report post #3 Posted November 6, 2016 Considering its just a hipper it's not weak. It's HE isn't great (like all other German cruisers) but I've seen them do really well. I know a few people that have it and a few others that have the Hipper and they say it's fine and do good with it. So it could just be you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #4 Posted November 6, 2016 Slow and really weakly armored. Better have solid island cover close by at all times. Deserves a repair way more than the Atago as it's more fragile. But that would require giving it to the Hipper as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ROGUE] Jhase Players 9 posts 4,818 battles Report post #5 Posted November 6, 2016 It's a cruiser, so losing half your health to a battleship is a normal day at the office. Armor is not great, angling and wiggling is necessary. As it is basically a Hipper, it's a departure from WG that it's not just better than the tech tree ship. Don't have Eugen, played through Hipper, wanted to like it, just couldn't.. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSSHI] Kazomir Players 1,566 posts Report post #6 Posted November 6, 2016 Slow and really weakly armored. Better have solid island cover close by at all times. Deserves a repair way more than the Atago as it's more fragile. But that would require giving it to the Hipper as well. ALL tier 8 crusers should have heal. IT SHOULD BE DAMN OBVIOUS BY NOW WARGAMING WAKE UP. Tier 3 onwards RN LIGHT cruisers have heals but when it comes to tier 8 heavy cruisers which have NO escape mechanic its only reserved for the premium master race?? Sure give us rudder mod but that is only useful for soviet cruisers. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GOEPT] Crusherheads [GOEPT] Weekend Tester 559 posts Report post #7 Posted November 6, 2016 What is amazing is, its the worth cruser for his tiers and the most costy premium ship compared to the others sadly lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #8 Posted November 6, 2016 What is amazing is, its the worth cruser for his tiers and the most costy premium ship compared to the others sadly lol Well, its the most popular I guess. But then anything from Germany gets +50 to popularity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GOEPT] Crusherheads [GOEPT] Weekend Tester 559 posts Report post #9 Posted November 6, 2016 Well, its the most popular I guess. But then anything from Germany gets +50 to popularity. Pretty much, with is why i didnt bought the ship honestly... if a person has a tirpitz, and Prinz dont give anything special, what motivation would bring me to buy it? regarless WG loss not ours, ppl that buys it should think twice, theres alot of review about the boat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #10 Posted November 6, 2016 Tbh, it looks really fancy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GOEPT] Crusherheads [GOEPT] Weekend Tester 559 posts Report post #11 Posted November 6, 2016 Tbh, it looks really fancy! "Dont jugde a book by his cover, but by the content" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SerPurr Beta Tester 722 posts 16,792 battles Report post #12 Posted November 6, 2016 Hipper/Eugen/NO all need a ROF buff. It's the only thing that might get these pieces of junk back to at least some competitive shape. Never gonna happen ofc cause by god, giving them a reload buff of -1/-2 seconds will surely render them INSANELY OP all of a sudden right? Right. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] triumphgt6 Players 1,870 posts 22,641 battles Report post #13 Posted November 6, 2016 ALL tier 8 crusers should have heal. IT SHOULD BE DAMN OBVIOUS BY NOW WARGAMING WAKE UP. Tier 3 onwards RN LIGHT cruisers have heals but when it comes to tier 8 heavy cruisers which have NO escape mechanic its only reserved for the premium master race?? Sure give us rudder mod but that is only useful for soviet cruisers. Yes, but the RN cruisers are exceptionally squishy and have no HE. If they had no heal, they would be all but unplayable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #14 Posted November 6, 2016 "Dont jugde a book by his cover, but by the content" I own a Hipper, don't worry about me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FireflyActual Players 55 posts 2,610 battles Report post #15 Posted November 7, 2016 The Hipper's a good ship, so given the similarity between the two siblings I'm sure I'd enjoy the Eugen. Why would I buy one though? She's almost exactly the same in almost all respects and she has no outstanding features among the tier VIII CAs. Besides, as someone mentioned above all tier VIII cruisers should have access to the heal consumable. I'd gladly replace the useless fighter plane on my Hipper and Mogami with one. Perhaps giving the Eugen radar (in addition to the heal) as analternative to the sonar and defensive AA would do the trick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferry_25 Players 4,392 posts 12,107 battles Report post #16 Posted November 7, 2016 I learned on the internet PE is very much like Hipper. And I;m not overly fond of playing that ship. Though I don't hate it either IMO it's in fact a boring ship. Does its job and dealing some nice dmg. But I can't remember ever having played an epic match in it. As much as I like collecting the ships I passed on this 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DELCV] Al3xstar Players 263 posts 14,218 battles Report post #17 Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) as longer as I play this ship, I am starting to get more and more annoyed that it's just a worse hipper with nothing special, I guess the 50% commander exp on camo is good but not when you already have 18 point cptains and don't get me started on the 3k dubloon camo which gives you 10% more credits, is this some kind of joke? I think Eugen should get something special, like tier 9 upgrade slot where you could just mount main battery mod3 and have a better rate of fire, or the ability to mount both defensive AA and hydro at the same time, or give her a 10km torps, maybe a heal. So far she has been a big disappointment for me. I really liked the Hipper, but the Eugen feels really underwhelming. And it's my favorite ship too EDIT: also the Hipper has more range and much better concealment which makes a lot of difference Edited December 14, 2016 by SgtCole Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOTS] deadly_if_swallowed Players 1,678 posts 13,867 battles Report post #18 Posted December 14, 2016 Yup. Even a single heal (up to 3 with premium and SI) would buff her to a degree I could consider taking her seriously as a premium ship. As a mere Hipper clone without noticable differences, she just looks like a waste of money even during sale. Being a Hipper clone though, the ship itself should be decent enough. I cannot understand how people call Hipper weak and fragile. She does not have Atago's stealth or Chapayev's radar, but she is definitely neither weak nor fragile. In fact, being the most balanced ship I ever played in the game, she can play multiple roles. She can reliably hunt DDs and spot torps thanks to German hydro (and her HE buff), punish cruisers thanks to German AP railguns, support at damaging enemy BBs, and add valuable AA firepower to allies thanks to 40mm Bofors clones and the already great 105mm DP guns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPA] Procrastes Beta Tester 4,083 posts 4,481 battles Report post #19 Posted December 14, 2016 I see the Prinz Eugen as an alternative for those who hasn't the time to grind the way up to tier VIII in the German cruiser line, but still want to sail out in a Hipper class heavy cruiser. It's a famous cruiser line, made somewhat iconic by the Prinz Eugen. Of course she will sell well! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] Earl_of_Northesk Players 2,447 posts 14,711 battles Report post #20 Posted December 14, 2016 Yup. Even a single heal (up to 3 with premium and SI) would buff her to a degree I could consider taking her seriously as a premium ship. As a mere Hipper clone without noticable differences, she just looks like a waste of money even during sale. Being a Hipper clone though, the ship itself should be decent enough. I cannot understand how people call Hipper weak and fragile. She does not have Atago's stealth or Chapayev's radar, but she is definitely neither weak nor fragile. In fact, being the most balanced ship I ever played in the game, she can play multiple roles. She can reliably hunt DDs and spot torps thanks to German hydro (and her HE buff), punish cruisers thanks to German AP railguns, support at damaging enemy BBs, and add valuable AA firepower to allies thanks to 40mm Bofors clones and the already great 105mm DP guns. She would just be a straight up better Hipper for money. Not sure that's what people want, it's not what I want for sure. ALL tier 8 crusers should have heal. IT SHOULD BE DAMN OBVIOUS BY NOW WARGAMING WAKE UP. Tier 3 onwards RN LIGHT cruisers have heals but when it comes to tier 8 heavy cruisers which have NO escape mechanic its only reserved for the premium master race?? Sure give us rudder mod but that is only useful for soviet cruisers. That would just shift the problem to T7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOTS] deadly_if_swallowed Players 1,678 posts 13,867 battles Report post #21 Posted December 14, 2016 She would just be a straight up better Hipper for money. Not sure that's what people want, it's not what I want for sure. Right now she is a Hipper for money. Is that want you want? You still need Hipper to grind to Tier 9 and 10 which are both worth grinding for. Once you unlocked Roon you could sell your Hipper and use Eugen instead, which would surpass her sister ship at least in that one aspect. But right now there is absolutely no reason for me to buy her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] Earl_of_Northesk Players 2,447 posts 14,711 battles Report post #22 Posted December 14, 2016 Right now she is a Hipper for money. Is that want you want? You still need Hipper to grind to Tier 9 and 10 which are both worth grinding for. Once you unlocked Roon you could sell your Hipper and use Eugen instead, which would surpass her sister ship at least in that one aspect. But right now there is absolutely no reason for me to buy her. Nobody forces you to buy her. Just don't do it. The reward for playing a premium ship should not be to have a straight up better silver ship, but having a captain retrainer and money earner. Both of which she does just fine. Tbh, I like premiums like here much more than ones like Belfast and such... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MeTaLMooSe Players 688 posts 5,902 battles Report post #23 Posted December 14, 2016 I have Prinz, bought her for my collection. I had her mothballed as I wasn't going to grind the KM cruiser line. However I've since started playing cruisers more and more as I believe they teach you better gameplay than a BB. So now I'm up to Yorck and have taken Prinz out a little more. Nice ship but she has absolutely no tricks up her sleeve unless you count hydro. All she needs is a heal consumable and I would be happy. I understand her unique XP paintjob is her perk and no additions are planned? And yes I am sad and have the Adler camo. Even if she is lacklustre she looks great and is a good crew trainer for co-op larks where you can wade in and use the torps to good effect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-CHL-] Fizzy_Odin Beta Tester 545 posts 4,334 battles Report post #24 Posted December 14, 2016 I have Kutuzov and did try Hipper on test and Kutuzov is like 4x better cruiser - 19.2km range, 7.5 sec reload with high fire chance, smoke, strong AA 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ALA] Bismarck_chan Players 392 posts 5,330 battles Report post #25 Posted December 14, 2016 I don't really get why, but Hipper does really well for me. Not Atago levels, but well enough that I enjoy playing her. And I haven't even fully upgraded her. Maybe it's because I play her as more of a fleet escort. I'm kinda tempted to buy the Prinz Eugen, especially since she was the first model ship I ever built, but she is just a Hipper-clone after all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites