[POP] AndyHill Weekend Tester 1,433 posts Report post #101 Posted November 7, 2016 To make the ship more special it gets Tomahawk and Harpoon missiles (reload is 15min so if you haven't won the game by then and the enemy has a Mo, ...), but groundings are permanent every time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MIRAI] _cosmo Players 591 posts 7,809 battles Report post #102 Posted November 7, 2016 Expecting a 35 FreeXP/ Doubloon discount soon. yep, just after you can't get her any more Also, it would be hillarious if it were like 200k on ru/asia, and 400k on eu, because: "that was the most popular sum in eu forum!, we cater to the specific audience and hear the voice of the people ". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #103 Posted November 7, 2016 Are Iowa and Missouri identical in real life or are there differences in the superstructures, like on Bismarck/Tirpitz? Missouri (and Wisconsin) have stronger forward bulkhead armor. The difference is actually pretty substantial (Iowa: 290mm; Missouri: 370mm). Other than that, I don't think there's much else that sets the sisters apart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diabolik__ ∞ Players 286 posts 14,314 battles Report post #104 Posted November 7, 2016 Don't want to be a bringer of bad news, but I think you will be "A BIT" short of XP for Mighty Mo. So you should better prepare some doubloons, instead of Papa Papa flags I know that I am short of free XP needed but through Papa flag I can gather minimum of 100k free XP and I am optimistic that I will get another SC with free XP =) Joking about SC, that might or might not happen but I can have around 200-250k free XP ready and the rest I will gather through doubloons of course if that is going to be reasonable amount because I am not going to spend fortune just to get another ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SerPurr Beta Tester 722 posts 16,744 battles Report post #105 Posted November 7, 2016 Missouri (and Wisconsin) have stronger forward bulkhead armor. The difference is actually pretty substantial (Iowa: 290mm; Missouri: 370mm). Other than that, I don't think there's much else that sets the sisters apart. Would be very nice if that's actually reflected in the model! Together with a fix for Iowa' rear bulkhead cause that's currently lacking the whole aft section of its citadel I'd also like her to have Hydro. Or radar. Or both. Oh and the RN superheal. Ah no one Mo, also give her 12km secondary range. Yeah, that will do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PWN3D] Peffers Beta Tester 1,063 posts 22,995 battles Report post #106 Posted November 7, 2016 Also, it would be hillarious if it were like 200k on ru/asia, and 400k on eu, because: "that was the most popular sum in eu forum!, we cater to the specific audience and hear the voice of the people ". I would fully expect it to be discounted in non developed countries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corvi Beta Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,147 posts 16,279 battles Report post #107 Posted November 7, 2016 I just hope it wont be as bad as the Iowa If its the same as Iowa i seriously ahve to keep my collectors urges in check, becasue i dont want a second junk ship like that in port ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #108 Posted November 7, 2016 Iowa isn't a bad ship, but it takes a lot of skill and the occasional sacrificial virgin to RNGesus to make her work. To quote LWM here: A well played Iowa is fast, stealthy, hard hitting and nigh impervious to damage. A poorly played Iowa is inaccurate, cowardly and fragile as all get out. I just hope Missouri doesn't get Def AA as a gimmick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S0F] xeransa Beta Tester 169 posts 11,678 battles Report post #109 Posted November 7, 2016 Quite a lot of free xp on offer in the Halloween event atm if you can win... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deesis_ Players 14 posts 16,752 battles Report post #110 Posted November 7, 2016 so here is a horrible thought: What if WG does some sort of christmas event where you can buy special "gift containers" (similar to the daily containers) with free xp and those have a slim chance to contain the missouri? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,668 battles Report post #111 Posted November 7, 2016 so here is a horrible thought: What if WG does some sort of christmas event where you can buy special "gift containers" (similar to the daily containers) with free xp and those have a slim chance to contain the missouri? Horrible doesn't describe this thought even remotely. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PRT] it3llig3nc3 Beta Tester 668 posts 8,031 battles Report post #112 Posted November 7, 2016 If you haven't done the math yet, for a BB line it takes roughly 1mill XP to grind a Tier X ship from Tier 1. The Tier X is approx 250,000XP. That is said the total XP effort to unlock a Tier IX ship with all module upgrades is roughly 750,000XP Therefore I have no illusion and expect that the Missouri's price will be around 500,000-600,000 FreeXP at best... It is a "nice" way from WG to make players "burn" their doublons and FreeXP on a prem ship... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #113 Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) If you haven't done the math yet, for a BB line it takes roughly 1mill XP to grind a Tier X ship from Tier 1. The Tier X is approx 250,000XP. That is said the total XP effort to unlock a Tier IX ship with all module upgrades is roughly 750,000XP Therefore I have no illusion and expect that the Missouri's price will be around 500,000-600,000 FreeXP at best... It is a "nice" way from WG to make players "burn" their doublons and FreeXP on a prem ship... Nah...I guess they wanted to hide this ship behind a play wall so that noobs cannot just buy a tier 9. I guess it'll cost 55-75€ (ship alone). But since I unlocked the Iowa and don't quite like her...well. Edited November 7, 2016 by aboomination Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SerPurr Beta Tester 722 posts 16,744 battles Report post #114 Posted November 7, 2016 IF it's just free xp I'm not too bothered. IF however, it turns out the free xp is just part of something bigger, I'll make sure to voice my clear dismay over on this forum, pretend fanatically that got me somwhere and do whatever needs to be done anyways whilst trying to grow a spine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EnterpriseNL Players 33 posts Report post #115 Posted November 8, 2016 I'm very curious in which form of free XP needed, Uncoverted or converted, because if you need to convert them, then this is gonna be Pay 2 win ship, and a win situation for WG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #116 Posted November 8, 2016 Pay 2 win ship An Iowa class ship? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blaster1112 Beta Tester 139 posts 3,406 battles Report post #117 Posted November 8, 2016 An Iowa class ship? no not really. and there is another advantage: you need to earn free xp. which can only be done on premium or elited ships (if you convert it, which is the fastest way) so you need to earn at least the amount of xp required in a premium ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PKTZS] JapLance Weekend Tester 2,567 posts 18,265 battles Report post #118 Posted November 8, 2016 I'm very curious in which form of free XP needed, Uncoverted or converted, because if you need to convert them, then this is gonna be Pay 2 win ship, and a win situation for WG Free XP is Free XP, no matter in what way you got it. May have been through battles, ship XP conversion, daily missions, containers... I'm personally expectant to see in which way does WG start a new shitstorm . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FIFO] ilhilh [FIFO] Beta Tester 2,451 posts 7,514 battles Report post #119 Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) I'm very curious in which form of free XP needed, Uncoverted or converted, because if you need to convert them, then this is gonna be Pay 2 win ship, and a win situation for WG Eh? Unconverted XP is not free XP and it never has been. They have said it is free XP and the only ways you can earn it is to 1) earn modest amounts in game 2) convert it or 3) get it in a container. I don't understand your argument that it costs to get a premium ship - in case you had missed it all premium ships cost money* - your options are: Use money --> buy premium ships Use money --> buy dubloons --> buy premium ships Use money --> buy dubloons --> convert XP --> buy premium ship It all is about the same really... just different steps. All they have done is introduce an extra hurdle (often done in games to obscure the true cost) and in the process introduce a variable price because everyone will go into the event with differing amounts of money - quite clever really with people showing off how they spent nothing or £3 and got a tier IX ship but for people without much free XP already they will potentially find the cost to be very high. EDIT: First container opened today was a standard one with 3k free XP in it. Me likey. Edited November 8, 2016 by ilhilh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Gojuadorai Players 2,832 posts 21,712 battles Report post #120 Posted November 8, 2016 Eh? Unconverted XP is not free XP and it never has been. They have said it is free XP and the only ways you can earn it is to 1) earn modest amounts in game 2) convert it or 3) get it in a container. I don't understand your argument that it costs to get a premium ship - in case you had missed it all premium ships cost money* - your options are: Use money --> buy premium ships Use money --> buy dubloons --> buy premium ships Use money --> buy dubloons --> convert XP --> buy premium ship It all is about the same really... just different steps. All they have done is introduce an extra hurdle (often done in games to obscure the true cost) and in the process introduce a variable price because everyone will go into the event with differing amounts of money - quite clever really with people showing off how they spent nothing or £3 and got a tier IX ship but for people without much free XP already they will potentially find the cost to be very high. EDIT: First container opened today was a standard one with 3k free XP in it. Me likey. well to make it complete they cost time use time to earn money --> Use money --> buy premium ships use time to earn money --> Use money --> buy dubloons --> buy premium ships use time to earn money --> Use money --> buy dubloons --> convert XP --> buy premium ship use time to earn free xp --> buy prvemium ship It all is about which one is less costly for you 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,506 battles Report post #121 Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) no not really. and there is another advantage: you need to earn free xp. which can only be done on premium or elited ships (if you convert it, which is the fastest way) so you need to earn at least the amount of xp required in a premium ship. You are wrong! In every match you earn Free XP its 5% of the Total XP you earn in battle. Your talking about converting Ship XP to free XP for Dubloons. Indeed that can only be done with Elited or Prem ships. Edited November 8, 2016 by T0byJug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sander93 Beta Tester 990 posts 3,431 battles Report post #122 Posted November 8, 2016 Judging by the pictures it will have even better AA than the Iowa. Extra Oerlikon mounts at the bow and behind the third turret and the No2 turret sports an extra quad Bofors mount. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_FTD_ ∞ Players 908 posts 10,097 battles Report post #123 Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) Somewhat legit to do it this way as it will prevent new players to jump into t9+ games straight away, I'd give +1 to WG for the thought process. Edited November 8, 2016 by _FTD_ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S0F] xeransa Beta Tester 169 posts 11,678 battles Report post #124 Posted November 8, 2016 According to this story from the asia forums we have the Chinese to thank for the Missouri... http://forum.worldofwarships.asia/index.php?/topic/20047-ahemclears-throat-a-story-about-the-chinese-server-and-the-t9-premium-missouri/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #125 Posted November 8, 2016 Regarding the camouflage, the one available on Iowa always was the one historically worn by Missouri. So it's no surprise that Missouri herself has the same one. I would rather they didn't do something wacky just for the sake of it being different because I like what little historical accuracy this game has, even if just in appearance. What they should do, if they didn't want a clash, is to re-work the Iowa premium camo to the one actually worn by Iowa. As for appearance, Iowa in 1943 looked like our stock Iowa, Missouri in 1943 looked like our top hull Iowa. By 1945 Iowa was refitted and looked basically the same, maybe some of the radar antenna or 20mm gun positions were a bit different but nothing obvious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
