[GLUE_] Fino_93 Players 390 posts 9,642 battles Report post #126 Posted November 13, 2016 Ok, yesterday report: -A pair of russian ships at every battle -they always spawned on the other side of the map and get killed by someone else -the only ship that spawned/came to my side was a chapa, he has 90%hp and was running inte some islands in my direction, i started shooting and aparently thanks to Island i'm the only that is shooting at it. It was 90% of his hp pool, i reduced it to 30 hp, then a Rain of Fire from cannons of different calibers came on it, i suppose from far distances cause dispersion, one single shot hit and he dies. -i end my match with dignity, then i played my taskent for the day victory and ragequitted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
K_san Players 49 posts 7,386 battles Report post #127 Posted November 13, 2016 personaly .. I hate the way the ARP Nachi mission is setup , all the other missions were "fine" ( even the ARP Takao ) you could do them while playing WoWs "normaly , but for ARP nachi you have to KS all the RU ships on the enemy team ,,,, and I dont meet much of them ... playing a few game every day since the box system was added and thus far i only managed to score 14/20 RU ships ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #128 Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) personaly .. I hate the way the ARP Nachi mission is setup , all the other missions were "fine" ( even the ARP Takao ) you could do them while playing WoWs "normaly , but for ARP nachi you have to KS all the RU ships on the enemy team ,,,, and I dont meet much of them ... playing a few game every day since the box system was added and thus far i only managed to score 14/20 RU ships ... Don't you have like 45 days left to finish this mission? How is this 'sink russian ships' a huge issue. You've sunk 14 out of 20 in what - 14 days and have 45 days left..? Edited November 13, 2016 by loppantorkel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MIRAI] _cosmo Players 591 posts 7,809 battles Report post #129 Posted November 13, 2016 Don't asume that he got those kills by playing normally. That is the issue here. Killing ships of certain nations is always a bad way to make a mission. Even general kills boot caps suck, because it always results in a killstealing fest. Dmg is fine, hell even torps or scondaries is better compared to this. Not only that, but it also needs t8+. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #130 Posted November 13, 2016 Don't asume that he got those kills by playing normally. That is the issue here. Killing ships of certain nations is always a bad way to make a mission. Even general kills boot caps suck, because it always results in a killstealing fest. Dmg is fine, hell even torps or scondaries is better compared to this. Not only that, but it also needs t8+. I've gotten about equally far on that mission without giving it a second thought, just normal play. People are just more obsessed when there is a kill-mission they are aware of. If they see a low health ship and don't get the kill, they were suddenly more robbed than usually because they needed that kill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
K_san Players 49 posts 7,386 battles Report post #131 Posted November 13, 2016 right now in every match i play ... if there are no RU ships on the enemy team .. i consider the match to be a waste of time , because i cant score the last few kill that I need .... also do to the tier restrictions ( T8 for a T7 ship ?!!! ) i havent played any of my ships below T8 because again .. its a waste of time and potential kills of RU ships . And as _cosmo sugested some of my RU kills were done in a way that I would never play normaly ... but since I need those RU kills ...right now im playing worse than normal and make more really stupid plays only to try and score that "RU Frag" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #132 Posted November 13, 2016 right now in every match i play ... if there are no RU ships on the enemy team .. i consider the match to be a waste of time , because i cant score the last few kill that I need .... also do to the tier restrictions ( T8 for a T7 ship ?!!! ) i havent played any of my ships below T8 because again .. its a waste of time and potential kills of RU ships . And as _cosmo sugested some of my RU kills were done in a way that I would never play normaly ... but since I need those RU kills ...right now im playing worse than normal and make more really stupid plays only to try and score that "RU Frag" What's the rush? Why obsessing about it? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MIRAI] _cosmo Players 591 posts 7,809 battles Report post #133 Posted November 13, 2016 Because some of us have finished the other nations and are still at 4 ru kills, perhaps? And we just came out of a week with rewards for playing ru ships. Won't be long before i start yoloing, because it's the only arp ship i lack. If it were any other "double", i wouldn't have obsessed about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RUMR] RandyWookie Beta Tester 131 posts 10,373 battles Report post #134 Posted November 13, 2016 It would be far better to have some insane requirement that did not force players to behave like one-man idiot teams. Instead of sink 20 russian ships, just make it score 250 citadel hits on anything. Make certain tiers a requirement, but whatever the requirement, encourage team-play, not solo yolo be a [edited]killstealer. It's amazing how Wargaming just cannot get their heads out of their arses and think of this for themselves. I mean we did not get any option for paying our way past this, so why add the frustration? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #135 Posted November 13, 2016 It would be far better to have some insane requirement that did not force players to behave like one-man idiot teams. Instead of sink 20 russian ships, just make it score 250 citadel hits on anything. Make certain tiers a requirement, but whatever the requirement, encourage team-play, not solo yolo be a [edited]killstealer. It's amazing how Wargaming just cannot get their heads out of their arses and think of this for themselves. I mean we did not get any option for paying our way past this, so why add the frustration? Wargaming maybe had higher thoughts about the players? No one is forcing players to behave like one-man idiot teams. There is no good reason to become a solo yoloing killstealer. How is this an acute issue in the middle of November??? Is ARP Nachi that good? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DMOK] Drake847 [DMOK] Players 506 posts 38,388 battles Report post #136 Posted November 13, 2016 Problems sinking the ships for the Nachi ? I got her 2 days ago . So where is the Problem i was quite fast but you guys still have time till 1.1 17 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HABIT] Tungstonid Beta Tester 1,568 posts Report post #137 Posted November 13, 2016 Wargaming maybe had higher thoughts about the players? No one is forcing players to behave like one-man idiot teams. There is no good reason to become a solo yoloing killstealer. How is this an acute issue in the middle of November??? Is ARP Nachi that good? Some say Nachi is just another Myoko clone. Well, except for Takao it is the only ship we have only one chance for to get so even if it is "just another Myoko" it has some kind of collector's value to it. At least for the people who are interested in it. The thing with the yolo player is right since you can really damage your team with that by (in the worst case) getting killed without doing anything useful like kill the DD or spot long enough. But you should keep in mind that there is nothing like kill stealing here ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
K_san Players 49 posts 7,386 battles Report post #138 Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) the idea of targeting a lowly populated ( or maybe represented? ) nation such as the russians are for a kill X mission was stupid to begin with ( its like WG EU doesnt even look at the server statistics when they invent yet another "wonderful" mission ) and now that the IJN DD split is comming closer followed by German DDs ..... the window of oportunity for hunting RU ships is getting smaller ... cause once new hot sh** hits the servers .. everyone will be grinding it and so even less RU ships will be playing Edited November 13, 2016 by K_san Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MUS] Sophia_Mus Players 116 posts Report post #139 Posted November 13, 2016 I just gave up the hunt and accepted that I won't get her. It's very difficult to find and kill russian ships in t8 games now. But nvm. I got the other 3 Myoko class ca, the 4 Kongo BC and the Takao, so all in all it's ok. Now I look forward to the new Haifuri missions we will get next year, folowed by Kantai perhaps at a later date. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kastike Players 188 posts 3,803 battles Report post #140 Posted November 14, 2016 20 in everything else and zero soviet ships... on the bright side, I saw one Chappy 4 days ago. Maybe I still have a chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,668 battles Report post #141 Posted November 14, 2016 Got my Nachi yesterday, got the last 6 missing RU kills in 5 games. In a lot of games where up to 4 RU ships on the enemy team which made it relatively easy to get them. Next objective: torp spamming for shits, giggles and a ship i already have! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FIFO] ilhilh [FIFO] Beta Tester 2,451 posts 7,514 battles Report post #142 Posted November 14, 2016 20 in everything else and zero soviet ships... on the bright side, I saw one Chappy 4 days ago. Maybe I still have a chance. LOL! You are exaggerating right? I'm on 18/20 myself and I must average over 1 SN ship per game at those tiers. Even if I had half of the SN kills I do have I would still think I had more than enough time to complete it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brutus007 Players 145 posts Report post #143 Posted November 14, 2016 It is all about the luck.... I am now 20/20/5/18.... and in last 10 games I have sunk only USN/IJN ships.... typical. But whatever - I have got my Takao, also have Haguro and Ashigara and do not care much about Nachi (which I may get if I will play T8 a lot) or Myoko (which I will for sure not get as my only T8 are Soviet cruisers). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FATAL] krazypenguin Beta Tester 573 posts 2,930 battles Report post #144 Posted November 14, 2016 or Myoko (which I will for sure not get as my only T8 are Soviet cruisers). Just in case you were not aware, the requirement for the ARP Myoko is tier 7 - I did the mission (500 secondary hits) in my Nagato. I'm on about 20/15/6/6 I think. Tier 8 is killing me completely, I cannot work out what to do, where to go or... well, anything. Fubuki win rate is in the low 30s, Mogami in the 40s and Amagi is clinging to 50 probably purely due to the low battle count (just 6 games so far). I'm playing absolutely terribly and, were it not for these 2 missions, I don't think I would bother with tier 8 at all. It's like I'm playing a different game :-( 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brutus007 Players 145 posts Report post #145 Posted November 14, 2016 Just in case you were not aware, the requirement for the ARP Myoko is tier 7 - I did the mission (500 secondary hits) in my Nagato. You are right but will not help me much as I am quite new in the game and on only ever played Soviet cruisers so no BB's (except for Texas which I got as reward for free) in my port. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nethraniel Beta Tester 1,739 posts 1,782 battles Report post #146 Posted November 14, 2016 20/15/8/18 now after 110 battles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Live85 Weekend Tester 453 posts Report post #147 Posted November 14, 2016 Yesterday I had 20/20/3/20. I somehow managed to get a Molotov and a Gremy since then, so 20/20/5/20. I've started giving compliments to Soviet ships I kill as a way to say sorry for hunting them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BUSHI] CuddlyPanda Players 352 posts 3,883 battles Report post #148 Posted November 14, 2016 Oh so that is why everyone and their mother, and their dog is shooting at my Tashkent disregarding all tactical and strategic movements Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Live85 Weekend Tester 453 posts Report post #149 Posted November 14, 2016 Oh so that is why everyone and their mother, and their dog is shooting at my Tashkent disregarding all tactical and strategic movements +1 Tashkent, thanks for playing soviet ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BUSHI] CuddlyPanda Players 352 posts 3,883 battles Report post #150 Posted November 14, 2016 +1 Tashkent, thanks for playing soviet ships. No problem, I'll take out the Chappy too if you want Share this post Link to post Share on other sites