ARP Takao? nah, prepare for the ARP Nachi pain

[Elo_Naj]

Well I did it today, but it would have been easier to kill 250 Ships.

[Tuccy]

Just got to one ship from Nachi. With some 90-odd battles in past 21 days (the site did not offer option since 01/11 unfortunately). Most of these battles were on Tier VIII+, and most of them with destroyers. While catching Soviet ships is more random than others... But then again, I also did not beeline to suicide just to get them, they were just targets of opportunity. All in all, definitely not unachievable in 2 months, and di not even need to grind for it - the kills just came in when playing and feeding other missions.

 

In any case, since Soviet ships are destroyers or cruisers, playing the respective classes gives a good chance of tackling them. Plus give you chance of getting them while fulfilling your role in the team.

[xXx_Blogis_xXx]

did natchi 2-3 weeks ago, yes its hard but in 2 months np get 20 kills rusky

[Admiral_noodle]

I think uninstalling the game because you can't have one ARP ship is a little over the top though.

 

Still 11 RU ships to go. But I'm not that bothered. Just pleased I got takao. That ship I will play.

[robihr]

got to 16 ships a week ago and since then no progress.

[Laestrygone]

I think the main problem is that Wargaming Paris didnt understand that they did a mistake with the Nachi mission.

That shows how they think about the community.

 

Its possible to get the mission, yes, but it makes no sense to create a mission that based on luck.

Its complete luck when u need 5 or 6 matches to find a single soviet ship in the enemy team. To sunk them is an other problem...

 

But i believe Paris will never understand to work with the community, not against.

And it make me also sad that Paris ignore the most communityproblems day for day.

Hundreds of post and some polls about Nachi, in different languages. But for Paris all is fine. Other people would start to think...

[Kashuken]

Done it.

 

Though in 1 day i got like 4-6 RU ships, without that would still be doing it.

[Tuccy]

If it takes you so long to meet Soviet ships, you may be queuing outside peak ours or just have really bad luck - out of today's Tier VIII+ matches, there was only one battle with no Soviet ship anywhere, about two with it on my team and majority had at least one ship on each team - and overall, given the amount of battles from the beginning of November (which was not only below my average, but also below server average), it would be rather something like 1 successful kill per 4-5 battles (meaning far more encounters - I definitely did not win 'em all ;)).

Best tier is probably VIII, as you have wider spectrum of tiers in your MM pool (two up, two down). In any case - since it depends on MM - it is best not to stress yourself with "Hunting for Soviet ships", but taking them as targets of opportunity while you do what should be the primary goal of logging intot he game - which is, actually playing, progressing the tech trees, training captains etc.

 

In any case, managed to catch the last one today - there were actually two Tashkents on the enemy team, so managed to catch the second one as it was creeping around our flank and into our back. I think the final score also clearly shows that it is better to focus on your main mission.

 

 

 

[Hawker96]

Just got to one ship from Nachi. With some 90-odd battles in past 21 days (the site did not offer option since 01/11 unfortunately). Most of these battles were on Tier VIII+, and most of them with destroyers. While catching Soviet ships is more random than others... But then again, I also did not beeline to suicide just to get them, they were just targets of opportunity. All in all, definitely not unachievable in 2 months, and di not even need to grind for it - the kills just came in when playing and feeding other missions.

 

In any case, since Soviet ships are destroyers or cruisers, playing the respective classes gives a good chance of tackling them. Plus give you chance of getting them while fulfilling your role in the team.

 

Whilst some people may have been very lucky with matchmaking and managed to do it already, its still very unattainable for the majority of us. Ive been stuck on 4/20 for a very long time so far and its fustriating having completed or being extremely close to completing all of the other ARP missions. 

 

The Nachi is a Teir VII ship, so why lock the requirement to VIII?

 

Also, why must we have these frustrating missions, when your NA colleages can come up with this?

 

 

Arpeggio Challenge 4

Earn 30,000 base XP over any amount of Random or Co-Op battles.

• Must have completed Arpeggio Challenge 3 
• Must use a ship tier VI or higher
• Once per account

Rewards

• ARP Nachi + Port Slot + Ten-Skill Point Commander
• ARP Ashigara + Port Slot + Ten-Skill Point Commander

 

A 27 page topic with logical reasoning and realistic requests at making this mission more achievable, like lowering the requirement to match the ships tier (VII) and making it 20 Soviet OR British ships two name but too. 

 

If this is really the "last hurah" of the ARP, the grand farewell too them, why make a frustrating, tricky and mostly luck based (on MM, lineups, team, killstealing etc) that will only cause lasting bad memories for those unable to meet the number of Soviet ships?

 

Why wait 27 pages of people feeding back the event, waiting for a Staff Response to respond with basically, "well I can manage it, so you guys should be able too".

 

[Agantas]

Maybe you could get the mission lowered to T7, Tuccy? Nachi is a T7 ship and there would be more Soviets at low tiers.

[Temid23]

I know next time make a mission for EU with 20 Polish; 20 Commonwealth and 20 French ships....

 

Can you please stop with this dumb mission targets that push players to do dumbest things..?????

Plain 100 or xxx kills would do fine for most players without causing so much frustration.

 

PS i have great idea for WG EU person responsible for this kind of staff:

He/Her will get payed for December IF sunk 10 Polish; 10 Commonwealth and 10 French ships

[RoyalColor]

If it takes you so long to meet Soviet ships, you may be queuing outside peak ours or just have really bad luck [...]

 

 Yeah, it's kinda getting obvious that luck plays a major role in EU's recent mission objectives...

[159Hunter]

 

 Yeah, it's kinda getting obvious that luck plays a major role in EU's recent mission objectives...

 

Or, you could force the issue and play RU ships yourself. You give others a chance to complete the mission, and because of mirror-ish MM you'll have a higher likelyhood of encountering enemy RU ships.

Honestly, this mission took me 2 weeks to complete. Really don't see what all the fuss is about. (then again over 50% of my ships played the last 2 months are high tier RU ships... )

[AntTiger666]

Just got to one ship from Nachi. With some 90-odd battles in past 21 days (the site did not offer option since 01/11 unfortunately). Most of these battles were on Tier VIII+, and most of them with destroyers. While catching Soviet ships is more random than others... But then again, I also did not beeline to suicide just to get them, they were just targets of opportunity. All in all, definitely not unachievable in 2 months, and di not even need to grind for it - the kills just came in when playing and feeding other missions.

 

In any case, since Soviet ships are destroyers or cruisers, playing the respective classes gives a good chance of tackling them. Plus give you chance of getting them while fulfilling your role in the team.

 

or you could have just ATLEAST made it less frustrating by making it just sink 80 Any ships. Boom nachi mission Rage problem (slightly) solved 

[Ishiro32]

 

It’s just bad mission. There is no way around it. Sure it’s doable, but it feels like a random chore. Kill missions for specific type of ship always impacted the game and enjoyment in very negative way. 

 

@Tuccy

Can you argue with that? How fun it is to randomly jump into the game and hope for the Russian ship to show up in your range… then you fight with your own team for the kill. 

Sure you can just play and let mission play itself out, but what is the point of the mission that the most enjoyable way to do it is to think that there is no mission?

 

[Bademeister02]

Yesterday was indeed a good day to hunt them soviets! I did 8 battles and managed to sink 4 of them while doing my usual thing (only two battles without a russian ship). I didnt had to suicide yolo rush or do something stupid, just normal gameplay and some good placed volleys of my NC (and some pew pew of my Yugumo^^) where enough. Yes i know that was quite lucky but i shows, that its absolutly possible to fullfill this mission in the huge timeframe WG has given to us. I am no unicum and i am not doing 20 matches per evening but still i was able to kill 17 ships soviet ships by now. So keep your heads up, grab a T8 ship of your choice and hunt the russkis!

Despite of my luck i am convinced that this is indeed a bad mission! Maybe WG will learn the lesson^^

 

One more short note: My personal overkill isnt the nachi-mission...Its the 200torp hits for a T5 BB mission (was is kirishima?)

I love my DDs, but srsly 200 torp hits?? For a T5? This is a bit over the top, dont you think^^

 

greetz

[hjsteg]

In the beginning progress was good. I did not really think much about it, as I was overwhelmed with the fact that there was so many ARP ships to do missions for. Each day in the beginning of the ARP "campaign" I made solid progress, and even managed to kill a RU ship or two. But what I realized later was that we were just coming out of the RU ship special, and there was quite a few RU ships around. But soon RU ships were harder to come by, and when I saw the Takao thread and this Nachi pain thread I became painfully aware of the issues with the Nachi mission.

 

I am very, very grateful for the other mission requirements, and that you did actually lower the requirements for the Takao to tier 8. That made it possible for me to do the mission. And to win 50 games is very fair. That rewards players for playing high tier games, and to do well. As a new player (started actively in october) I bought tier 8 premium ships to help me do the missions (Tirpitz,  Agato, and Kutuzov).

 

Progress through the Nachi mission has been very sketchy to say the least. I had a game in the Tirpitz a couple of weeks ago where I did 2 RU kills, without focusing on RU ships. Since then, none. I am more comfortable playing lower tier ships, and are currently focusing on my tier 5 and tier 6 progression. I do not think I will focus on the Nachi mission anymore. I have 3 remaining ARP's to get, and I will certainly get the one with 500 secondaries, and maybe the 200 torp hits (if I focus on that one). But the Nachi still eludes me.

 

It's like this, 10% of ships in tier 6-10 are RU. At least that was the case 3 weeks ago when I checked last. So that is 1.2 ship a battle, or 0.1 ship to kill for each player on your team. And that single ship is focused on hard, and players with best skills and tools will be most successful. To get to 20 kills you need 200 battles if you average one (1!) kill a match. And that - is very hard for an average player.

 

Conclusion is that the mission requirements for Nachi is fundamentally flawed, and that is before we check the missions that the other servers have gotten (lower tier / co-op mode etc).

 

 

[Laestrygone]

Paris could also make an event to force soviet ships a little bit.

I mean i sunk more britsh ships than soviet, that say all. Not many soviet there. Its pure luck to find some.

 

An example:

From Russia with Love -Event  10.12.2016 to 01.01.2017:

 

 

-discount soviet ships with standard discounts 50, 30 and 15 % all the event time.

 

-in week one(10.12 -17-12) give soviet ships double Captain XP per match.

-in week two(17.12 - 24.12) give them 50% more XP per match.

-in week three (24-12 -31.12) give them 20% more Credits per match.

-on 31.12 - 01.01, the last day, give all three boni of last weeks.

 

Maybe this would give more people the chance to finish the last ARP-Event in WoWs.

 

And lower the Tier requirement for Nachi-Mission would give players the chance to change the Tier and find more mid-tier soviets in matches.

 

[CollingwoodDK]

Just got to one ship from Nachi. With some 90-odd battles in past 21 days (the site did not offer option since 01/11 unfortunately). Most of these battles were on Tier VIII+, and most of them with destroyers. While catching Soviet ships is more random than others... But then again, I also did not beeline to suicide just to get them, they were just targets of opportunity. All in all, definitely not unachievable in 2 months, and di not even need to grind for it - the kills just came in when playing and feeding other missions.

 

In any case, since Soviet ships are destroyers or cruisers, playing the respective classes gives a good chance of tackling them. Plus give you chance of getting them while fulfilling your role in the team.

 

Dear Sir or Madam,

unless sb. else need kills and steels  them first - or you are in a IJN DD now -lol. This is not about the missions in general but about the things you need to do to achieve them. The basic damage from US Servers with T 6 ships seems to be

fair - keeping in mind that it is the last chance! Because 8 days have passed you would have to lower conditions either way.

Keep in mind I am not talking for myself - I did that mission already - but for the others who did not have the chance, there is sth. I'd like to add.

 

When I remember the first Myoko mission which was at least reasonable at T 6 - that was the fact which convinced me to buy some premium camouflage for my light cruisers. I regretted spending the money shortly after that.

No more Myoko Missions at T 6.

Sorry to say - but since the beginning of the year, you SIr or Madam and your fellow co workers have done a lot things to make peaple angry. Worse is - you can not even see it.? Or ist it a simple decision?

 

With high regards ...

[CaptainThunderWalker]

If it takes you so long to meet Soviet ships, you may be queuing outside peak ours or just have really bad luck - out of today's Tier VIII+ matches, there was only one battle with no Soviet ship anywhere, about two with it on my team and majority had at least one ship on each team - and overall, given the amount of battles from the beginning of November (which was not only below my average, but also below server average), it would be rather something like 1 successful kill per 4-5 battles (meaning far more encounters - I definitely did not win 'em all ;)).

Best tier is probably VIII, as you have wider spectrum of tiers in your MM pool (two up, two down). In any case - since it depends on MM - it is best not to stress yourself with "Hunting for Soviet ships", but taking them as targets of opportunity while you do what should be the primary goal of logging intot he game - which is, actually playing, progressing the tech trees, training captains etc.

 

In any case, managed to catch the last one today - there were actually two Tashkents on the enemy team, so managed to catch the second one as it was creeping around our flank and into our back. I think the final score also clearly shows that it is better to focus on your main mission.

 

 

Still, it involves a lot of luck. There have been days I didn't see any Russians even during peak hours, or just days that they spawned on the other end of the map.

 

I didn't get any Russian kills last week (except one I didn't even notice, presumably way after I died with torp+flooding or something similar, since I did get a few Flesh Wounds after I logged out of the battle) - then got two in two games both in the Takao. At 17/20 now, but I think I played a tad too many games to get there.

 

Note that the mission is a lot harder without high-tier CVs or American DDs.

[Venatacia]

"Not that hard to get in two months". So why am I still on 9 Russian kills when I got 20 kills of the other nations weeks ago?. How do you get kills with no Russian ships in your battles. Sounds like luck or right place at the right time because when I play around 7pm to 11pm each night the Russian ships are like ghosts. I'm not even bothering to try anymore, get fed up with trying and seeing no Russian ships. Can't even stick playing high tiers at the best of times so I will just pass up on this silly mission.

[Smeggo]

A mission row specific for russians ships now actually sounds like a good plan 

 

[deadly_if_swallowed]

A mission row specific for russians ships now actually sounds like a good plan 

 

Restrictions:

Random battles, Team battles, Ranked battles

Repeatable

Russian ships of Tier VIII or higher

 

Conditions:

Get sunk by someone who does not own ARP Nachi yet

 

Rewards:

500 Free-XP

300,000 Credits

[Smeggo]

Masterplan 

 

[Raziel_Walker]

Completed all the ARP missions so now I can sit back and grab popcorn claiming the mission is not that hard.

 

My basic tactic was to grab a DD or BB, move towards center of the map until a russian ship was spotted and then make straight for it.