[BUSHI] The_Baptist Players 132 posts 9,629 battles Report post #476 Posted November 30, 2016 It was hell, but finally finished with the russians, it took: tashkent 101 battles - 9 kills after that I recived the takao and stopped with tashkent takao 50 battles - 11 kills You can easily see which ship is better for the task, I'm sure you can get better results with BBs, easier to delete those pesky kutuzovs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BaronMannerheim Players 73 posts 3,265 battles Report post #477 Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) Got it! Finally.. real pain. Now I can flame against allies running after RU ships No more this kind of missions, thanks. Edited November 30, 2016 by BaronMannerheim 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #478 Posted November 30, 2016 So this is a thing now on NA... http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/seriouslylastchance/ Especially note the Iona, Kirishima (Bear) and Chihaya Gunzo commanders as well as the ARP flag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BaronMannerheim Players 73 posts 3,265 battles Report post #479 Posted November 30, 2016 So this is a thing now on NA... http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/seriouslylastchance/ Especially note the Iona, Kirishima (Bear) and Chihaya Gunzo commanders as well as the ARP flag. We can get them: http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/66108-arpeggio-compensation-and-more/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #480 Posted November 30, 2016 Well I'm close to killing all the nations at half way but I need 11 RU ships. This could become problematic if others are in a similar position. Might have to organise a RU sailing contest or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diminios Players 324 posts 3,103 battles Report post #481 Posted November 30, 2016 So this is a thing now on NA... http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/seriouslylastchance/ Especially note the Iona, Kirishima (Bear) and Chihaya Gunzo commanders as well as the ARP flag. Especially note that all the missions give 10 point captains. And can be completed in maybe 110 battles, if you're halfway decent. Playing whatever you want however you want. And not chasing phantom Russian ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[STEG] hjsteg Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 214 posts 18,489 battles Report post #482 Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) Congrats with your Nachi Baron! It must feel good to finally be done with that. I got this today: It is strange that the Nachi mission is so much harder than the Takao. On the Nachi mission I am not even half ways there. And with that RU requirement it will be a small miracle if that mission is completed. Edited November 30, 2016 by hjsteg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrEff Beta Tester 47 posts 3,326 battles Report post #483 Posted November 30, 2016 Good luck with another month of grinding I am happy I don't have to do another stupid 200 torpedo T6+ hit mission to complete the set (I have only Mutsuki suitable for that, so it would be extremely boring), - I got Kirishima in June just for 2000 main gun hits using any T5+ ship... Inconsistency with setting mission requirements on EU server is amazing, gently speaking. And, for example, on Asia server it was even funnier: "On top of that, in case you have not played WoWs before the 29th of February this year, you will get the ARP Kirishima AND Commander Iona for free, if you research any Tier 5 ship before 1st of May this year." Been playing the Mitsuki and it's actually been quite relaxing, up to 141 already, though I had about 70 from just playing and completing the other missions. I've seen the US ARP missions too, I wish we had a month to get 100 xp and all the ships with 10 point captains. Makes you wonder what information WG EU uses to determine the mission requirements, since it's clearly not by listening to the player base. Thing is this isn't even a new thing. Anyone who has or does play WoT knows that WG EU just loves to screw over their players. Take a look at the recent premiums for example. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #484 Posted November 30, 2016 Especially note that all the missions give 10 point captains. And can be completed in maybe 110 battles, if you're halfway decent. Playing whatever you want however you want. And not chasing phantom Russian ships. And they get 2 more port slots since they could already get the Nachi and Takao before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DUDES] Z_OnkelE WoWs Wiki Team, Privateer 1,795 posts 19,868 battles Report post #485 Posted November 30, 2016 It is strange that the Nachi mission is so much harder than the Takao. Well... The mission used to be T9+ you know?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdiJo Players 1,419 posts 11,712 battles Report post #486 Posted November 30, 2016 It was hell, but finally finished with the russians, it took: tashkent 101 battles - 9 killsafter that I recived the takao and stopped with tashkenttakao 50 battles - 11 kills You can easily see which ship is better for the task, I'm sure you can get better results with BBs, easier to delete those pesky kutuzovs. Takao is much more effective than Amagi or NCal. I can't say about Tirpitz or Bismarck - they should be better because they have "finishing tools" at close distance. Generally BB are not as effective as cruisers or gunboat DD because it is the last hit which counts. You can double-citadel the Kutuzov and still some gunboat will kill him, not you... Also, you need to be able to move fast across the map, without kiting all the enemy fleet with you ;) Takao armed with echo, charging into the smoke was my solution to the problem. Well... The mission used to be T9+ you know?! This just would limit the mission to T9+ players. It is still at the same difficulty - you just have to play ~100 games on average to get 50 wins. Nothing hard, just takes time and is boring. Even if you are a potato with 33% winrate it will be just 150 games not 100. In turn, in one of the above posts you have example of a unicum player who needed 200 games in T8+ to get the Nachi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DUDES] Z_OnkelE WoWs Wiki Team, Privateer 1,795 posts 19,868 battles Report post #487 Posted December 1, 2016 Nothing hard, just takes time and is boring. Even if you are a potato with 33% winrate it will be just 150 games not 100. I would like to see how the authors of these countless complain posts answer this . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diminios Players 324 posts 3,103 battles Report post #488 Posted December 1, 2016 I would like to see how the authors of these countless complain posts answer this . Personally, I'd rather have easy and boring than something completely based on RNG. The feeling of accomplishment I might get for completing the pain that is ARP Nachi mission in no way outweighs the irritation I got every single battle with no Russian ships on the red team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdiJo Players 1,419 posts 11,712 battles Report post #489 Posted December 1, 2016 I would like to see how the authors of these countless complain posts answer this . Nobody complained that Takao mission at T9 was 'hard' - the problem was requiring to have T9 or T10 ships to get T8 cruiser. For Nachi it is a bit different, but still the main issue is T8-T10 requirement to complete T5-T7 ARP set, which everywhere else in the world was given to players having tiers 4-6. A derivative of the absurdly high tier requirement is rarity of RU ships which have the same number of kills required as for 3-4x more abundant navies, so the mission could be as well reduced to 'kill 20 Russian ships' only. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] orlathebeast Beta Tester 630 posts 9,067 battles Report post #490 Posted December 1, 2016 Takao is much more effective than Amagi or NCal. I can't say about Tirpitz or Bismarck - they should be better because they have "finishing tools" at close distance. Generally BB are not as effective as cruisers or gunboat DD because it is the last hit which counts. You can double-citadel the Kutuzov and still some gunboat will kill him, not you... Also, you need to be able to move fast across the map, without kiting all the enemy fleet with you ;) Takao armed with echo, charging into the smoke was my solution to the problem. This just would limit the mission to T9+ players. It is still at the same difficulty - you just have to play ~100 games on average to get 50 wins. Nothing hard, just takes time and is boring. Even if you are a potato with 33% winrate it will be just 150 games not 100. In turn, in one of the above posts you have example of a unicum player who needed 200 games in T8+ to get the Nachi and he's not the only one. i played more than 200 games at tier +8 this month and still i'm at 16 kills... the requirements are just stupids, but milions of people allready said this. btw, i'm a BBs and CAs player, and i feel who the montana is my best solution for delete russians CAs. really, i just one-shooted 2 chapayev from 18+km yesterday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GLUE_] Fino_93 Players 390 posts 9,642 battles Report post #491 Posted December 1, 2016 well, i suppose that thanks to campaigns i will need my tashkent, so, considering my suicide tendence, you'll have a great help... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BaronMannerheim Players 73 posts 3,265 battles Report post #492 Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) Much better play Tier8 ships because in range you can find also Budyonny, Molotov and Ognevoi. After that feel confortable with the ship you find more suitable for you. In my opinion Takao is a beast: nice guns to steal *coff coff* mean get the kill, torps and good concealment that allows not getting too much attention from enemy team while heading towards the target. Edited December 1, 2016 by BaronMannerheim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BEXF] RaptorAbt [BEXF] Players 18 posts 5,207 battles Report post #493 Posted December 1, 2016 Nachi (so far) 15/20 IJN 20/20 USN 4/20 RU (think I have killed the Dunkerque more times) 18/20 KM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PKTZS] JapLance Weekend Tester 2,567 posts 18,265 battles Report post #494 Posted December 1, 2016 I made a rough guess when I got Nachi using a stats site, and found out I got it with about 180 tier 8 and 9 games. Now my impression (no data about that) is that had the Russians not been required (or changed for a global amount of ships) I could have done it with the first 100 games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FATAL] krazypenguin Beta Tester 573 posts 2,930 battles Report post #495 Posted December 1, 2016 Anyone want to bet that the release of the new IJN DD line means we see even fewer Russian ships? Sigh... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diminios Players 324 posts 3,103 battles Report post #496 Posted December 1, 2016 No bet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ARP] Nishizumi77 Weekend Tester 128 posts 4,552 battles Report post #497 Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) Woohooo finally!Big thanks to Yuugumo, I used all my luck for december and managed to kill 3 Ru ships with her in 3 different battles today. Caption of the 20th RU ship's final moment: Edited December 1, 2016 by Nishizumi77 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diminios Players 324 posts 3,103 battles Report post #498 Posted December 1, 2016 Grats. I managed to get to 8 today (from 7). Probably still on track, according to whatever mysterious metric WG EU uses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #499 Posted December 1, 2016 Well oddly I went out in my Chapy this morning. Did 60k damage, sunk 3 ships and survived. Didn't get focussed or even shot at much. I felt like saying "hello!!! Russian ship here!! Shoot me!" So I'm doing my bit... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain_Strawberry Players 306 posts 5,559 battles Report post #500 Posted December 1, 2016 Well oddly I went out in my Chapy this morning. Did 60k damage, sunk 3 ships and survived. Didn't get focussed or even shot at much. I felt like saying "hello!!! Russian ship here!! Shoot me!" So I'm doing my bit... That's weird, I took out my Leander into a tier VIII game and brought a Molotov to low health. When I asked for someone else to shoot him none of the higher tier ships wanted anything to do with him. I ended up having to kill him myself and I wasn't happy about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites