ARP Takao? nah, prepare for the ARP Nachi pain

[brutus007]

It's not a big deal, it truly is not. I only actually want the Takao

 

Exactly my thoughts - I have got Takao and stopped to play T8 Do not have Nachi nor Myoko and couldn't care less as I am not sailing Ashigara nor Haguro anyway.

Will actually probably get Myoko as I am leveling my first BB line these days - at Bayern now and quite confident I will be on T8 long before New Year.

[deadly_if_swallowed]

Oh no, you didn't get a Nachi, but you got all the other ships..big whoop. It's not a big deal, it truly is not. I only actually want the Takao as it isn't just another copy in a different colour with a slightly different voice you can't understand.

 

True. Gameplaywise these ships do not offer much difference. In fact, I do not even use them, not even Takao. But I like Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio so I want to own these ships, simple as that. And now I got them all. The only mission left is Kirishima that I only do half-heartedly because I dislike torps. She only means a free port slot to me.

[Egoleter]

Oh no, you didn't get a Nachi, but you got all the other ships..big whoop. It's not a big deal, it truly is not. I only actually want the Takao as it isn't just another copy in a different colour with a slightly different voice you can't understand.

 

I'm driving a Tashkent, got my Schors out and once I finish grinding the Chappy, I'll go out in that too. I'm doing my part for the obsessed.

 

 

I start to get the feeling that you only participate on the forums to antagonize. I'll still answer your post.

- Please show me where I complained that I didn't get the ship? If you read up my posts on this topic you'll see that I actually stated that I am confident to complete it before the time runs out.

- That you only care about the Takao is completly irrelevant to all those who want a complete collection of those ships. It doesn't matter that you don't care. You are not the center of the universe. Empathy might be hard for you but you should still try it some time. Not to mention that you are missing the point of the complaints. That the mission is uneccessary hard for no reason at all. The tier restriction and the RU kill objective are, in combination, to much to create a fun gaming environment. You do not want to create stress in your playerbase or the players will sooner or later start to run away. A game should never feel like work.

- Thank you for providing targets for those who do care about the ships. But calling those who care about the ships obsessed, just because you don't care at all is still trolling.

[CaptainThunderWalker]

Oh no, you didn't get a Nachi, but you got all the other ships..big whoop. It's not a big deal, it truly is not. I only actually want the Takao as it isn't just another copy in a different colour with a slightly different voice you can't understand.

 

I'm driving a Tashkent, got my Schors out and once I finish grinding the Chappy, I'll go out in that too. I'm doing my part for the obsessed.

 

You're struggling with Japanese? Seriously?

 

 

My Japanese is terrible, but I can actually make something out of what Nachi is saying. From Kirishima and Takao there are only half a dozen words or so I can identify. Meh.

Talking about this, I seriously need to pick up my studying of the Japanese language again instead of doing useless stuff with my life.

 

[Siekam]

Maybe someone already said this, I don't really feel like reading all 19 pages of posts... Call me lazy, idc.

Anyways:

What about players (like me) who don't have any kind of Battleships? Not like i am going to grind for a T7 bb now, just to finish the event. I am not whining, just pointing out that some players prefer only 1! type of ships. 

 

 

I generally don't play BB's either. (Recently started on KM line, thats about it.) I mostly play cruisers.

The RN actually has quite decent secondaries, with decent range. I'm making quite some progress on this mission by playing the Fiji and I will probably make it before the year ends.

So I'd advise you to grind your RN cruisers for this mission.

 

 

[deadly_if_swallowed]

instead of doing useless stuff with my life.

 

The cake is a lie!

Real life is just for the sorry people who don't have friends on the internet.

[Kastike]

 

20 games in the last week (I've decided this crap is not going to force me to play what I don't want to play), 0 ships sunk. 2 out of every 3 games have no Russians in sight. My total is 13, but 10 of them were sunk in the first days, when ranked battles were still allowed and the Russians special mission was on.

 

 

 

I never really though of bolded part and clearly WG hasn't either. They said very early on, that people are getting plenty of kills and are easily completing this mission - thus they've made a great job on their part and players are just whiny. Would be nice to see completion rates before and after ranked season and those RU specials ending date.

[moomoo2]

 

I start to get the feeling that you only participate on the forums to antagonize. I'll still answer your post.

- Please show me where I complained that I didn't get the ship? If you read up my posts on this topic you'll see that I actually stated that I am confident to complete it before the time runs out.

- That you only care about the Takao is completly irrelevant to all those who want a complete collection of those ships. It doesn't matter that you don't care. You are not the center of the universe. Empathy might be hard for you but you should still try it some time. Not to mention that you are missing the point of the complaints. That the mission is uneccessary hard for no reason at all. The tier restriction and the RU kill objective are, in combination, to much to create a fun gaming environment. You do not want to create stress in your playerbase or the players will sooner or later start to run away. A game should never feel like work.

- Thank you for providing targets for those who do care about the ships. But calling those who care about the ships obsessed, just because you don't care at all is still trolling.

Dude, get over it. I have an alternate viewpoint to you. That is all.

I'll call people obsessed all I like because when you drive a Russian ship half the enemy follow you around ignoring your team and getting themselves killed just to hit me....if that's not obsession, then I don't know what is...

[_cosmo]

Dude, get over it. I have an alternate viewpoint to you. That is all.

I'll call people obsessed all I like because when you drive a Russian ship half the enemy follow you around ignoring your team and getting themselves killed just to hit me....if that's not obsession, then I don't know what is...

 

goal focus? Different priorities? Trying to complete a badly designed mission? 

[CaptainThunderWalker]

Maybe someone already said this, I don't really feel like reading all 19 pages of posts... Call me lazy, idc.

Anyways:

 

 

I generally don't play BB's either. (Recently started on KM line, thats about it.) I mostly play cruisers.

The RN actually has quite decent secondaries, with decent range. I'm making quite some progress on this mission by playing the Fiji and I will probably make it before the year ends.

So I'd advise you to grind your RN cruisers for this mission.

 

 

 

I won't get the Myoko. I don't care about her voice either.

I don't care about the Nachi, but I do care about the captain, because I think she has one of the best voices in the game currently and you cannot set the voices to her without activating a mod if you don't have her unlocked.

 

This all aside, I think what the mission does for the overall gameplay is terrible and for that reason alone the mission needs to be redesigned. I don't really go out of my way to hunt the Russians (because I still want to win, and because the Fubuki has a bad matchup against most Russian ship (and the Takao generally seems to get citadelled through the bow, to my annoyance)), but I have the time to play a lot to make up for it. Yet, I still am not really likely to make it, or if I do, I'll do it just before the mission time limit is up.

[moomoo2]

 

goal focus? Different priorities? Trying to complete a badly designed mission? 

Focus on playing the game. Stop worrying yourself over it. There is truly more to life than another ship that will be the same as all the others. If you get it, yay! If you don't, then nothing actually changes in your life.

[krazypenguin]

Got the 5 torp hits I needed for the Kirishima mission last night.  Only the Nachi left to get now, for which I need 5 RU kills.

 

To date, completing the ARP missions has cost me an entire 2% of my overall win rate and sucked most of the fun out of the game.  Last night I played 10 games at tier 8 and lost 8 of them.  Add to that, the Mogami is dreadful and, for a change of pace, I decided to grind the RN line (because going back to low tiers will be relaxing and fun, right?)  Wrong - the Danae is even worse at tier 4 than the Mogami at tier 8.  Literally every game I get nuked by a BB.  Twice I have done well, getting over 70k damage and I've still been beaten for XP by some BB numpty who hasn't had to work for it or even think past "left click for win".

 

Very frustrated with the game at the moment and not having fun.  Thanks for tier 8 requirement WG, well done you :-(

[Jethro_Grey]

Got the 5 torp hits I needed for the Kirishima mission last night.  Only the Nachi left to get now, for which I need 5 RU kills.

 

To date, completing the ARP missions has cost me an entire 2% of my overall win rate and sucked most of the fun out of the game.  Last night I played 10 games at tier 8 and lost 8 of them.  Add to that, the Mogami is dreadful and, for a change of pace, I decided to grind the RN line (because going back to low tiers will be relaxing and fun, right?)  Wrong - the Danae is even worse at tier 4 than the Mogami at tier 8.  Literally every game I get nuked by a BB.  Twice I have done well, getting over 70k damage and I've still been beaten for XP by some BB numpty who hasn't had to work for it or even think past "left click for win".

 

Very frustrated with the game at the moment and not having fun.  Thanks for tier 8 requirement WG, well done you :-(

 

Well, that sucks.

In my case it was quite the opposite as WR and avgDMG improved during that time, the former by a smaller margin than the latter.

 

My WR dropped a bit last weekend - with no mission to grind - a bit, but baiting all those guys, who need RU kills, to go after me yielded in quite a number of Krakens and other awards for my Moskva. ^^

[deadly_if_swallowed]

My WR and WTR remained pretty much the same. But average damage went up quite a lot due to the initial T9 requirement for Takao. I played a lot of Yamato lately. It was a great incentive to play her again and I feel like having made good progress, although I still do some stupid mistakes.

[krazypenguin]

My WR and WTR remained pretty much the same. But average damage went up quite a lot due to the initial T9 requirement for Takao. I played a lot of Yamato lately. It was a great incentive to play her again and I feel like having made good progress, although I still do some stupid mistakes.

 

My problem was that I wasn't (and still am not) ready for tier 8.  I had 3 ships unlocked but they were all stock and I only had enough free XP to skip a module or two on each ship.  Nor were my captains fully ready as I had to play some games without the 5th skill, something I was planning to avoid).  Mostly though, the game changes drastically (IMO) from tier 7 to tier 8 and I'm struggling to adjust.  Whilst I'm disappointed that I don't seem to have had any luck getting teams that can help carry me, I'm not blaming anyone but myself for my stats.  But if WG gave us a tier 7 requirement for this tier 7 reward then I (and a lot of other people too) wouldn't be in this situation - and I'm not happy about that.

[Kittykami]

Well after torping a Kiev in smoke yesterday I'm only one kill away from the goal. Think I might take a few days' break after it's completed, my gameplay has been going to hell trying to grind missions ;_;

[Tubit101]

Oh no, you didn't get a Nachi, but you got all the other ships..big whoop. It's not a big deal, it truly is not.

 

I don't see the point of downplaying the reward. A (in your opinion) poor reward doesn't justify a poorly designed mission.

[moomoo2]

 

I don't see the point of downplaying the reward. A (in your opinion) poor reward doesn't justify a poorly designed mission.

It's just another Myoko. Just a different colour and slightly different ranting Japanese girl you can't understand.

WG can design the mission however they like, people are successful at it, so it's not impossible. You still have over a month to complete it, so just play the game and stop making it into some desperate need to have a Nacho for the sake of it.

[Egoleter]

It's just another Myoko. Just a different colour and slightly different ranting Japanese girl you can't understand.

WG can design the mission however they like, people are successful at it, so it's not impossible. You still have over a month to complete it, so just play the game and stop making it into some desperate need to have a Nacho for the sake of it.

 

If you don't care then why are you in this thread?

We have our opinion. Clearly stated in the title. If you disagree, yet can't ingore the topic, a single post is enough. Other then that the thread is about the poor mission design and not if you specifically are fine with it or not. Unlike you, most of us do not argue for ourselfs.

[moomoo2]

 

If you don't care then why are you in this thread?

We have our opinion. Clearly stated in the title. If you disagree, yet can't ingore the topic, a single post is enough. Other then that the thread is about the poor mission design and not if you specifically are fine with it or not. Unlike you, most of us do not argue for ourselfs.

I'm one of the people regularly driving Russian tier 7&8, my whole point is that you're playing like complete spanners in desperation to complete this mission, to the detriment of team play.

 

Maybe you could grasp that concept and just enjoy the game rather than trying to mindlessly chase a 47kt destroyer around the map in a battleship.

[Egoleter]

I'm one of the people regularly driving Russian tier 7&8, my whole point is that you're playing like complete spanners in desperation to complete this mission, to the detriment of team play.

 

Maybe you could grasp that concept and just enjoy the game rather than trying to mindlessly chase a 47kt destroyer around the map in a battleship.

 

Let me ignore the generalization (you really like to attack people for no reason at all, don't you?).

 

Oh, look... why do those players act like that (they chase the squirrel even without such a mission plenty of times) currently? Oh, yes... because of the mission design we are critizising. We don't demand an easier mission because we want to get the ship any easier. Heck... make it 200 kills and another 5 million damage afterwards for all I care. We want Wargaming EU to adjust the mission because it is bad for the playing environment, as you yourself just admitted. So please don't tell us to stop complaining if we want the same thing.

[Jvd2000]

I'm one of the people regularly driving Russian tier 7&8, my whole point is that you're playing like complete spanners in desperation to complete this mission, to the detriment of team play.

 

Maybe you could grasp that concept and just enjoy the game rather than trying to mindlessly chase a 47kt destroyer around the map in a battleship.

 

People play like that because of an ill designed mission requirement by WG. And WG should have known from earlier missions that hunting for specific kills hurts (team) play. But its seems that, since WG is perfectly fine in repeating such stupid missions, they don't care about team play or good battles. So both the players that are desperate to fulfill their mission are screwed by this mission as well as the other teammates. So instead of blaming the Russian hunters blame WG.

 

Some people want Nachi. Period. Dot. They will do anything to get a better chance. And some tactics that actually work (agreeing in your assessment that foolhardy following a dd in a BB is not improving that chance) in increasing that chance does not always improve team play.

 

So that will sometimes also lower the enjoy-ability of your game, well grasp that concept.

 

 

[Captain_Strawberry]

I'm one of the people regularly driving Russian tier 7&8, my whole point is that you're playing like complete spanners in desperation to complete this mission, to the detriment of team play.

 

Maybe you could grasp that concept and just enjoy the game rather than trying to mindlessly chase a 47kt destroyer around the map in a battleship.

 

​It's not like that's not a common occurrence. The amount of times I've seen a handful of ships go chasing after one target, usually in epicentre or domination, trying so hard to kill him instead of focusing on the things that matter in that game. It's a bit worse right now because of Nachi but let's face it, they were doing it before the ARP missions and there will be idiots doing that next year. So complaining about us having to chase down a russian because of this annoyance of a mission just seems daft. It's not our fault WG hates EU.

[SangueBluEnzo]

 

It's just another Myoko. Just a different colour and slightly different ranting Japanese girl you can't understand.

WG can design the mission however they like, people are successful at it, so it's not impossible. You still have over a month to complete it, so just play the game and stop making it into some desperate need to have a Nacho for the sake of it.

 

Not everyone are as ignorant as you are so some of us actually know Japanese language.

 

[SangueBluEnzo]

....every time I see a CV now he is trying to torp a russian DD instead of focusing on on BBs haha

 

 

its getting funnier

 

2 days ago we chased one dd into a corner of the map ....there was a total of 8 ships with me in the corner...

 

while doing that our team lost cuz ABC was taken

 

its getting funny Im past the time of QQ I just dont care anymore about QQ or wins Im just 100% focused on killing russian ships ... I consider it my mission...and I actually started to like it... so I may stay like this forever... chasing dds into a corner and play like a total moron ty WG you created a monster