Takao mission - Q&A

[DasTongle]

Guys,

 

We know some of you have questions regarding the Takao mission. This has already been discussed in several topics on this forum, but I would now like to share some Q&As with you, to hopefully shed some light on the reasoning behind this mission and its requirements.

 

Q: Why the limit to tier IX?
A: Because we want more of our players to advance to higher tiers and play them – especially after the recent economy changes should have made them more accessible to regular players.
 
Q: But why is the mission so much harder than on NA?
A: In fact… That may be disputed. While the NA mission is Tier VI+, it also lasts only 1 month – and you need to get 100,000 Base XP.  
In comparison:
·    If you already have Tier IX or X, you have 2 months to win 50 battles – that is well within the envelope for a regular player.
·    If you have Tier VIII, getting to Tier IX should be much faster even with just Standard account than getting the 100,000 base XP – as you can fully use weekend specials, daily doubles, signal flags and Halloween/Ranked/other camouflages.
·    If you have lower tiers, then it may be harder – still, 2 months should be enough if you focus your attention to getting to Tier IX.
·    This then gives you ample time to get the 50 wins (even if you spend 1 month getting to tier IX).
Additionally, we are offering during the same time period another new ARP ship – Nachi – and a chance to catch up on all the older ships you may have missed – and note that playing at tier IX / getting to Tier IX will count to your progress in all these lower tiered missions as well, so you will be killing a LOT of crows with one stone.

 

If you have any other questions regarding this, please share them with me in this topic.

 

Best,

Kandly 

 

 

 

Dear Community Guy/Girl.

in comparison i have 50k xp in 4 Days while i only earned 5 Wins on t10 so yes your mission in unfairly hard on the Players on EU even to ones like me who do play t10

[eliastion]

 

Dear Community Guy/Girl.

in comparison i have 50k xp in 4 Days while i only earned 5 Wins on t10 so yes your mission in unfairly hard on the Players on EU even to ones like me who do play t10

 

It's still a 2 month mission, so assuming a compatible ship you just need to make sure you get a first win on it every day - and you'll even have more than a week of spare time for days when you for some reason fail to secure the victory. Is the mission harder? For a skilled player it will take longer than the XP but both of them are easy, really. Also, are you sure you don't count the XP you get rather than base XP (the latter being only what the team tab shows plus premium account modifier, no flag/camos/events/firstwins)?

[aquiles7389]

Hey guys,

 

The Takao mission requirement has been lowered to Tier VIII. All progress is kept and the ship can now be obtained by completing the mission with a Tier VIII ship or higher!

 

Best,

Kandly

 

What about players that unlocked Takao with the T9 requirements??? An extra prize for the extra effort would be nice.

[Likatare]

As someone who didn't mind the T9+ requirements  at all(the new economics surprised me positively), I'd still like to say thank you on behalf of the people who wanted the requirements lowered.

[Bellegar]

Hey guys,

 

The Takao mission requirement has been lowered to Tier VIII. All progress is kept and the ship can now be obtained by completing the mission with a Tier VIII ship or higher!

 

Best,

Kandly

 

 

Hi guys (and girls). 

 

We reviewed the great amount of feedback you provided in regards to using a tier IX ship for the Takao mission. After doing so, we decided that it is actually a reasonable request, and changed the mission to include tiers 8-10, instead of 9-10. This is not something we'd usually do, but in this particular case we may have pushed the requirement a bit too far, especially considering this is the last run of ARP missions ever. We want everyone interested to have the 2 months to get the ships.

 

All progress should have been kept.

 

We hope you'll enjoy the change and now do your best to get the ship It's a lovely tier 8, we hope you'll enjoy it.

 

Keep on rowing,

 

 

Thanks a lot for this. I realise I have used some harsh words both in this and the other thread, but I did have strong feelings about this. A T8 requirement for a T8 ship makes total sense, and I want to thank you for this change. I can be very sarcastic, but I really mean this. 

 

That being said, I do have two other questions. Why does EU always have to do it different to other servers? And why does the community always have to make a giant shitstorm about it before we can have a sensible solution? (Bundles, Kamikaze R, secondary module, now this)

[Ashandorath]

Can we have something better for the Nachi, such as just sink 100 ships?

[Dirpitz]

 

You mean in the context of a foulmouthed temper tantrum that just categorically insults everyone who criticized the mission?

Or in the context of a post that seemingly doesn't know the definition of a "mission" and a "challenge"?

 

If you can't tell the difference, don't come calling other people mentally challenged you hypocrite!

 

[edited]

 

They have changed what they call challenges and missions so very sorry since having played since beta. And the hypocrisy of saying I had a foul mouthed temper tantrum when that is exactly what you and the other toy throwers have been doing to get this mission changed. It's people like you that have turned this game from a great community in the beta to a complete [edited] it is today and I like many others am frankly sick of it. 

[edited]

[eliastion]

(...)It's people like you that have turned this game from a great community in the beta to a complete [edited] it is today and I like many others am frankly sick of it. (...)

 

After this couple of posts from you - I'm pretty sure you can just leave the forums alone, then. You'll reduce your exposure to [edited] and the community will improve (a tiny little bit) just by your absence - everybody wins!

Because, since you call it [edited], let me tell you one thing: throwing a tantrum because you didn't get/can't get a shiny toy you want might be childish. But it's nowhere near as childish as throwing a tantrum that other kids CAN get the toy you wanted to be just yours because you got to the playground first.

 

EDIT:

PS: if you feel personally attacked in a way where you expect WG to do something about it, I personally would advise the use of "report" function present in every post. That's what it's for.

Broadcasting your gender in a thread accomplishes little if you actually want to invite some action from WG - although, of course, it makes more sense if your statement was actually directed towards Aotearas to inform him that you are, indeed, a female - which might make (possibly inherently sexist but hardly personal in it's sexist aspect) "rest your tits" and its variants a more problematic way to address someone throwing a tantrum than it would've been if the addressee were a man. It does however invite the question: why start what is in fact information for another poster with "Dear WG".

[still_guns]

The Nachi mission is just the absolute worst of the bunch IMO. Kill 20 Russian ships? I'd love to, if anybody played the damn things. Guess I should be thankful I've got 2 months to get the 11 kills remaining.

[EmilyFara]

Sounds like I'm a minority. But I quite like these requirements.

[Aotearas]

 

They have changed what they call challenges and missions so very sorry since having played since beta. And the hypocrisy of saying I had a foul mouthed temper tantrum when that is exactly what you and the other toy throwers have been doing to get this mission changed. It's people like you that have turned this game from a great community in the beta to a complete child infested [edited] it is today and I like many others am frankly sick of it. 

[edited]

 

Alright then, tell me where I have lobbied for WG to change the mission.

Bonus points for finding me doing that in any unrespectful or foulmouthed manner.

 

I'm quite intrigued about how you're going to do that since I was actually quite okay with it and never said anything about wanting the whole thing to change. But I'm sure you can provide us some evidence to the contrary since you appear to be so convinced that I am one of those [insert choice words of preference] childs infesting this community.

 

I suppose it's easier to feel rightiously indignated when you just lump everyone into one category and then let your rage flow ...

 

And that last bit is a manner of speaking: "calm your tits", "chill out", "calm down". If you want to take offense to me telling you to mellow out and stop throwing a temper tantrum, then go ahead and tell yourself I was targeting you specifically with sexism despite not knowing what sex you are and realistically speaking you could still be talking out of your behind just to get some sympathy points as it's all too common on the internet when no one can actually fact-check that.

 

The point of my comment remains the same:

 

Stop childishly lashing out!!!

[Fino_93]

The Nachi mission is just the absolute worst of the bunch IMO. Kill 20 Russian ships? I'd love to, if anybody played the damn things. Guess I should be thankful I've got 2 months to get the 11 kills remaining.

 

 

That's a good point IMHO.

 

founded 1 single russian cruiser yesterday night in enemy team and my whole fleet start focussing him even from 20km, so battle lost cause all friendly guns were wasting shells on a distante target ignoring all other enemies and almost 0% possibilità to kill a single russian ship; how i'm suppose to play in this situations and how i'm supposed to complete the mission?

[BloodRose13]

I have got to say that I am less than impressed with the ARP missions. I have been playing for about a year and a half now, and I have only managed to grind up to tier VI in three different lines. The reason for this is that I play for fun, and that I have a prior commitment to something called 'Real Life', something that going by the attitude of some of the players here is apparently exceedingly rare within the playerbase.

Put simply I do not have the time to sit and play WoW non stop for a months on end. I have work to do, people to see and places to be because these bills do not pay themselves and neither does food just appear within my kitchen.

So by the look of things I will be unable to complete most of the missions as I do not have the time to sit and grind up to tier 8 ship. I do not have the time to grind another 30'000 on my Mutsuki (my shortest grind) and then another 127'400 to get the Fubuki, just to be able to grind a ship that I really want.

IN the meantime, the NA servers are able to grind Takao in tier VI ships, ships that most agree are some of the most fun to play.

 

So, I do hope that the ARP missions come back at some point as I really do wish to grind them, but sadly real life calls and it has to be answered.

[Kibbari]

Just unlocked this. Am I the only one that has a tier6 takao?

 

[Pekoe_Darjeeling]

Mission for Nachi should be also changed as ships of some nations(Russia for me) seems to be hard to find sometimes not to mention it's two different things to play to win and do missions like this which have nothing to do with team based game.

 

Don't need to say that other servers(Asia for an example) had conditions like hit enemy citadels 10 times deal X amount of damage and so on(starting at tier 6) - conditions that lead your team to win. Of course It's EU server that gets 8ullsh1t like this. Same like in wot.

 

Tier 9-10 for Atago was also a big f*&^ you from wg to EU server. I mean do I play on a test server? Or what is this? It's just not a way you do things especially if you want your playerbase happy.

 

This reminds me why none of my friends is playing wot or wows anymore.

 

 

Sincerely 

 

au8yi2h3rfecsdliv kx ah cat on my keyboard2123er

[MrConway]

The Nachi mission is just the absolute worst of the bunch IMO. Kill 20 Russian ships? I'd love to, if anybody played the damn things. Guess I should be thankful I've got 2 months to get the 11 kills remaining.

 

Mission for Nachi should be also changed as ships of some nations(Russia for me) seems to be hard to find sometimes not to mention it's two different things to play to win and do missions like this which have nothing to do with team based game.

 

Don't need to say that other servers(Asia for an example) had conditions like hit enemy citadels 10 times deal X amount of damage and so on(starting at tier 6) - conditions that lead your team to win. Of course It's EU server that gets 8ullsh1t like this. Same like in wot.

 

Tier 9-10 for Atago was also a big f*&^ you from wg to EU server. I mean do I play on a test server? Or what is this? It's just not a way you do things especially if you want your playerbase happy.

 

This reminds me why none of my friends is playing wot or wows anymore.

 

 

Sincerely 

 

au8yi2h3rfecsdliv kx ah cat on my keyboard2123er

 

I agree and will pass this on! 

 

[eliastion]

 

 

I agree and will pass this on! 

 

 

You've perhaps read these arguments in various threads, but one that might work for people you're gonna pass this on to: this mission risks driving soviet ships players out of the game (or at least out of the soviet ships) since they tend to become primary targets...

[krazypenguin]

 

 

I agree and will pass this on! 

 

 

Careful Conway - they might send you back to the gulag again if you side with the players too much!!    (but thanks as always!)

 

[SailingDutchy]

i must read better next time

 

[dpiris]

 

 

I agree and will pass this on! 

 

 

Encourage their use - 25 doubloons if a player uses a tier 8+ russian ship and gets 1000+ basic XP at a Random, Team, or Ranked Battle  

[Dampfboot]

WG did listen to their player base fore the first time ever and as such deserve praise. THX!!! WG! smooth move indeed!

 

However the Nachi mission also need to be changed to sink 100 ships total instead of 80 in total, but with 20 from each nation less uk, as the 20 russian ships will make it

impossible. Keep the t8+ for her if you want, (should rightly be t7), but either remove the 20 russian ships and ad their numbers to the other tre nations, or make it a total of 100 sunk ships.

 

Kindly a paying customer whom demands both quality and fairness in the game.

 

Good luck on the high seas!

 

They always react once the shitstorm is big enough. Same with Kamikaze R event, free captain respec after changes to skill tree etc. etc.

[HMS_Antelope]

Dear WG

 

I'm sure I'm not alone in being grateful for these unexpected missions.  I play a lot and have completed most of them, I actually agreed with the T9 decision and brought forward four T9 purchases as I only had one T9 prior to this.

 

I believe the game is improving and the communication in the EU is getting better, perhaps some times it's better to be up front with the reasons for changing like the Calendar which to be honest I don't believe the reason why you changed it.

 

But for me thanks for your efforts in evolving the game and for providing new challenges, it's good to listen to the player base and make changes if necessary but just because it's not posted on the forum, other players may agree with your original decision and see the logic in it.

[aquiles7389]

 

 

I agree and will pass this on! 

 

 

MrConway, what about the players that got Takao before the requirements were decreased to T8, an extra reward would be nice! The same come for Nachi, if the requirements decrease, an extra reward for those who achieved her with the original requirements would be fair.

Thanks.

 

[_cosmo]

Hardly fair, aquiles, unless you also mean to allow ppl to get the same bonus if they choose to keep doing the mission with their initial requirements, if they so choose. One shouldn't be penalised for planning things out according to official information provided

 

[aquiles7389]

Hardly fair, aquiles, unless you also mean to allow ppl to get the same bonus if they choose to keep doing the mission with their initial requirements, if they so choose. One shouldn't be penalised for planning things out according to official information provided

 

 

Agree, using T8 premiums make you even win money easily while doing the new requirements vs the risk of loosing money at T10.

Adapting to official information and play accordingly is not profitable anymore, now it's better to wait for changes