Takao mission - Q&A

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

 

I have not made any post on any thread about the Takao challenge. I've been quite relaxed about Wargaming setting up whatever challenges it wanted for the ship, assuming that they were for respectable motives. However the OP's arrogant and condescending post prompts me to comment.

 

1) "Q: Why the limit to tier IX?

A: Because we want more of our players to advance to higher tiers and play them – especially after the recent economy changes should have made them more accessible to regular players."

 

Never mind the frigging economy. How about some of us not wanting to play tier 9 and 10 because we either don't like the playstyle, or are not strong enough players to be anything other than seals for the more-skilled players to club? But never mind what we the customers want, Wargaming "...want more of our players to advance to higher tiers and play them". TRANSLATED - " Do what suits US, bitches!"

 

2) "    If you have Tier VIII, getting to Tier IX should be much faster even with just Standard account than getting the 100,000 base XP – as you can fully use weekend specials, daily doubles, signal flags and Halloween/Ranked/other camouflages.

·    If you have lower tiers, then it may be harder – still, 2 months should be enough if you focus your attention to getting to Tier IX."

 

Bollox! The closest that I have to a tier 9 ship is Mogami but I still need I am still 132k from the Ibuki.  

- My Average Experience is 1074XP per game in this ship. Even  with camo, flags, "first win" bonus I am only looking at about 1500-1700 per game, or about 80 games worth of battles.

- With a real life getting in the way, I play about 20 games per week. it would take 4 weeks of playing nothing else but Mogami to even get a tier 9. Then I have to play Ibuki no-stop to try and get 50 wins out of maybe 90 games available before the Takao challenge ends.

 

This would be the closest thing to "Aversion Therapy for World of Warships" that I can imagine!

 

Thank goodness that I already have Atago anyway, so I don't need to go through any of this crap to please Wargaming.

 

PS Why, oh Why couldn't you just make up some crap as a reason for the conditions of the Takao challenge? Trying to force us into the high tiers against our will, and admitting it is just a wind up.

 

[Dampfboot]

Guys,

 

We know some of you have questions regarding the Takao mission. This has already been discussed in several topics on this forum, but I would now like to share some Q&As with you, to hopefully shed some light on the reasoning behind this mission and its requirements.

 

Q: Why the limit to tier IX?
A: Because we want more of our players to advance to higher tiers and play them – especially after the recent economy changes should have made them more accessible to regular players.
 
Q: But why is the mission so much harder than on NA?
A: In fact… That may be disputed. While the NA mission is Tier VI+, it also lasts only 1 month – and you need to get 100,000 Base XP.  
In comparison:
·    If you already have Tier IX or X, you have 2 months to win 50 battles – that is well within the envelope for a regular player.
·    If you have Tier VIII, getting to Tier IX should be much faster even with just Standard account than getting the 100,000 base XP – as you can fully use weekend specials, daily doubles, signal flags and Halloween/Ranked/other camouflages.
·    If you have lower tiers, then it may be harder – still, 2 months should be enough if you focus your attention to getting to Tier IX.
·    This then gives you ample time to get the 50 wins (even if you spend 1 month getting to tier IX).
Additionally, we are offering during the same time period another new ARP ship – Nachi – and a chance to catch up on all the older ships you may have missed – and note that playing at tier IX / getting to Tier IX will count to your progress in all these lower tiered missions as well, so you will be killing a LOT of crows with one stone.

 

If you have any other questions regarding this, please share them with me in this topic.

 

Best,

Kandly 

 

 

 

There is no valid reason to require T IX for a TVIII ship. It works on the NA server with T VIII. I haven't seen anyone complaining that Missions are too easy. Mostly players complain that missions require a lot of effort for meager rewards. Most of the weekly missions are are crap and not worth doing because of meager rewards.

[Bellegar]

I do have one more comment

Kandly, on 03 November 2016 - 03:05 PM, said:

Q: But why is the mission so much harder than on NA?

A: In fact… That may be disputed. While the NA mission is Tier VI+, it also lasts only 1 month – and you need to get 100,000 Base XP.

Nobody is saying the mission is harder. 50 wins is easy in 2 months. What we are saying is that the requirements are harder. And that is very true. A requirement of T9 is way harder than T6. Both make no sense. The tier requirement for this ship should be T8, as it has always been with ARP ships.

If you want people to play T9/10, you should make a T9/10 challenge for whatever (flags, camos, signals, consumables, maybe even some dubloons) but not for exclusive content unobtainable in any other way.

 

But this being a Q&A thread, I am looking forward to your answers to the questions and statements posted here.

[eliastion]

I do have one more comment

Nobody is saying the mission is harder. 50 wins is easy in 2 months. What we are saying is that the requirements are harder. And that is very true. A requirement of T9 is way harder than T6. Both make no sense. The tier requirement for this ship should be T8, as it has always been with ARP ships.

If you want people to play T9/10, you should make a T9/10 challenge for whatever (flags, camos, signals, consumables, maybe even some dubloons) but not for exclusive content unobtainable in any other way.

 

But this being a Q&A thread, I am looking forward to your answers to the questions and statements posted here.

 

Or, you know, it's not like there was no Yamato in the anime - I'm pretty sure people wouldn't complain about ARP Yamato having a tier 10 requirement, as out of reach of most players as it would be. Since, you know: requirements matching the reward - grind to Yamato level to have a Yamato.

[Culiacan_Mexico]

 

Q: Why the limit to tier IX?
A: Because we want more of our players to advance to higher tiers and play them – 
 
 

If you have any other questions regarding this, please share them with me in this topic.

 

Best,

Kandly 

 

 

Why?  Why do you want me to play tier 9 vs tier 7?

[VeteranGamer84]

I didn't find it hard to unlock the Takao especially when you have lots of credits. I had about 12 million credits and didn't lose much credits playing T9/10 matches. Infact, When I upgraded my Takao to full spec I had 4 million credits left, Which is great as I'm saving silver coins to buy the upcoming IJN DDs. ARP Nachi is tougher because you should kill certain ships many times. I'm happy I got my Takao and looking forward for the ARP Nachi to complete my ARP collection.

[Fenivan]

I didn't find it hard to unlock the Takao especially when you have lots of credits. I had about 12 million credits and didn't lose much credits playing T9/10 matches. Infact, When I upgraded my Takao to full spec I had 4 million credits left, Which is great as I'm saving silver coins to buy the upcoming IJN DDs. ARP Nachi is tougher because you should kill certain ships many times. I'm happy I got my Takao and looking forward for the ARP Nachi to complete my ARP collection.

 

It's not the thing that mission is hard, its that many people who don't play at high tiers can't get tier 9 on time to do that mission. Imagine someone has like tier 6-7 on most paths. Even that guy is old player he plays in low / mid tiers bcs he enjoy it there. Now that guy will need like 20.000.000 credits and more just to buy new ships and several hundred thousand experience. Now that is too hard not the mission itself yet requirement which should be atleast tier 8.

[Bellegar]

 

Or, you know, it's not like there was no Yamato in the anime - I'm pretty sure people wouldn't complain about ARP Yamato having a tier 10 requirement, as out of reach of most players as it would be. Since, you know: requirements matching the reward - grind to Yamato level to have a Yamato.

 

I doubt they will ever give a T10 for free. But if they did, a requirement of T10 would indeed be harsh, but make sense. The same tier requirement as the reward ship tier just makes sense. 1 tier higher does not, neither does 2 tiers lower. And what makes the least sense is having different requirements on different servers for the exact same ship.

[krazypenguin]

 

If you have any other questions regarding this, please share them with me in this topic.

 

 

Hi Kandly - I have just 2 questions please:

 

 

1 - Will any of these missions, but particularly the Nachi & Takao parts, be repeated?  

2 - How long will MrConway have to spend in the gulag for his crimes before he is released?   ;-)

 

[BlueMoon51]

 

I doubt they will ever give a T10 for free. But if they did, a requirement of T10 would indeed be harsh, but make sense. The same tier requirement as the reward ship tier just makes sense. 1 tier higher does not, neither does 2 tiers lower. And what makes the least sense is having different requirements on different servers for the exact same ship.

Not true I hear that WG EU are planning a simple mission for it, you just have to sink 50 Polish Battleships in a tier 11 ship while sailing backwards on fire. 

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[Kandly]

 

Hi Kandly - I have just 2 questions please:

 

 

1 - Will any of these missions, but particularly the Nachi & Takao parts, be repeated?  

2 - How long will MrConway have to spend in the gulag for his crimes before he is released?   ;-)

 

 

Hi krazypengiun!

 

1 - I have no info regarding that, sorry. If I get anything I'll let you guys know.

2 - We're planning on releasing MrConway quite soon, I think he's suffered enough. I'll let him know that he's missed. 

 

Kandly

[deadly_if_swallowed]

I have no problem with the mission itself, and I do understand both sides. All my recent Yamato games (except for one yesterday) have been fun and I look forward to play her more.

The Takao mission now stands and It is what it is. But next time, if you plan missions in the high-tier bracket, please announce this in advance so mid-tier players can prepare and grind themselves a higher tier ship within a reasonable timeframe.

 

Anyhow, thumbs up for all the ARP missions so far. They have all been fun, especially the "hit ships with x shells" ones. Regarding Nachi, we just have wait and see how meta evolves. Maybe we see a RU ship comeback for whatever reason in December.

[Allied_Winter]

Hey there, 

 

somebody on reddit posted a pic, that the requierements for the Takao mission were lowered to T VIII ships. SOURCE

It has no effect though ... yet.

 

Any info on that?

 

 

 

Greetings

[JAnCOz]

Why are you dudes stil triyng? They still dont give a shait^ about youre opinion... with this king of stufs in maximum 2 years WG will have only Wot. Mark my words.

[svadilfari]

apparently they do give a crap

it´s tier8+ now

[Kandly]

Hey guys,

 

The Takao mission requirement has been lowered to Tier VIII. All progress is kept and the ship can now be obtained by completing the mission with a Tier VIII ship or higher!

 

Best,

Kandly

[deadly_if_swallowed]

Does this mean MrConway has been released from gulag?

Thank you very much, nice move

[karsun]

 

Hi guys (and girls). 

 

We reviewed the great amount of feedback you provided in regards to using a tier IX ship for the Takao mission. After doing so, we decided that it is actually a reasonable request, and changed the mission to include tiers 8-10, instead of 9-10. This is not something we'd usually do, but in this particular case we may have pushed the requirement a bit too far, especially considering this is the last run of ARP missions ever. We want everyone interested to have the 2 months to get the ships.

 

All progress should have been kept.

 

We hope you'll enjoy the change and now do your best to get the ship It's a lovely tier 8, we hope you'll enjoy it.

 

Keep on rowing,

 

[BlueMoon51]

Kandly-Karsun,

As requested earlier as WG EU Seeing as you want to dispute the "fairness" of the task how about offering a one time free server transfer??? The fact that you won't even consider this speaks volumes for the fact that you know as well as we do what's going on here with server equity 

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

Thanks!

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[Vanhal]

A little better.

 

Do please change the Nachi mission to tier VII, for the same reason.

[Egoleter]

Hi guys (and girls). 

 

We reviewed the great amount of feedback you provided in regards to using a tier IX ship for the Takao mission. After doing so, we decided that it is actually a reasonable request, and changed the mission to include tiers 8-10, instead of 9-10. This is not something we'd usually do, but in this particular case we may have pushed the requirement a bit too far, especially considering this is the last run of ARP missions ever. We want everyone interested to have the 2 months to get the ships.

 

Why do we have to make a bug fuss about that every single time? For nine months I have been here. Each event was the same. The EU team has to mess it up in some way. Yesterday I have switched to the US server because the european team just can't be bothered to think things through from the beginning and always seems to forget past critizism. It's a shame, really. Still... thank you for listening to your playerbase.

 

For now I'll stay on the US server. I'll use the weekend to think about coming back to give you one last chance.

[StuntMan0369]

One last thing I'd like to add on (Thank you for the change to tier 8); Where is Iona, Kirishima (Youtarou) and Gunzou captains for EU? I know it's just some different captains rather than actual ships, but it seems a little weird that we would appear to be missing out on them. Any response on that would be most appreciated.

[Fenivan]

Hey guys,

 

The Takao mission requirement has been lowered to Tier VIII. All progress is kept and the ship can now be obtained by completing the mission with a Tier VIII ship or higher!

 

Best,

Kandly

Thank you guys!

 

Does this mean MrConway has been released from gulag?

Thank you very much, nice move

 

No atleast for few more months, atleast vodka is good in gulag.

[Dirpitz]

Hey guys,

 

The Takao mission requirement has been lowered to Tier VIII. All progress is kept and the ship can now be obtained by completing the mission with a Tier VIII ship or higher!

 

Best,

Kandly

 

Well congratulations you whining bunch of [edited]. High tiers finally get a challenge and you all piss and moan until it gets changed. Well [edited]you seriously all you have done is now made it so we will get a new wave of people buying tier 8 premium ships flooding the games with no experience on how to use them. 

 

[edited] you are by far the worst offender on this forum the past few days you have done nothing but moan about this challenge, if you and the rest of the [edited] that threw your toys out of the pram actually spent as much time and effort playing the game as you do whining on the forums you would probably have your tier 9 by now and what's more of a joke is this kind of attitude that you have;

                                                                                ''For now I'll stay on the US server. I'll use the weekend to think about coming back to give you one last chance.'' 

 

No [edited]off and don't come back, defeatists such as yourself are not needed in a 'TEAM'  game, anyone who will give up on a challenge before even trying it is not someone I want on my team. 

I sincerely hope WG either reverses their decision or gives those of us that have put in the time and effort to get a high tier ship a challenge that we can do to get an exclusive ship just to [edited] 

So sick of this current game culture of cry until they change it. Well here's an idea lets all hit the forums and cry that the XP grind is too much until WG reduces it to 1 game in every ship to progress to the next [edited]tier.

 

Sorry WG I'm completely on your side on this one and think there was nothing wrong with the challenge at all, it was by far the easiest of the servers and I'm just disappointed that you have given in to the whiners that want everything given to them without even trying.