ARP Takao unfair!

[mikelight1805]

Here's an idea. WG start offering a Takao permanent camo for the Atago! Im sure they would sell well at the WG bargain price of 3000 doubloons, just like the Prinz Eugen!

 

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[aquiles7389]

A free Atago is never a bad thing, keep working guys, the reward is awesome!

[Vanhal]

 

Of course they do, I think WGEU got this right, it's the other servers that set the bar too low.

 

That's disgusting.

[mtm78]

It's a free tier 8 CA with the exact game in game utility other than captain training and credit generation, as one of the most used CA's in competitive play. And you only need to win 50 games, in two months. Sorry, but I actually don't think it's disgusting, it's pretty good in my book. If you don't have tier 9 or higher, chances are you don't 'need' a tier 8 CA anyway. If you don't play tier 9 or higher on average ( like me! ), it's an incentive to play some more high tier games. Yes, high tier games push more people to premium content ( premium account / premium ships for credit grinding ), so what? I don't see the big 'disgusting' issue here.

 

 

[kalamies]

Its nice that you can finally get good premium ship for free. Limited to T9 rules out all weekend warriors and superbad players. I think they should put extra reward if overall wr is over 60%. Another premium ship, doubloons or something like that.

 

Im really gonna enjoy this easy mission and the ship when i get it.

[Comodoro_Allande]

 

Difficult wise Nachi is more frustrating and unresonable. Im at 12/20 US 14/20 IJN but 3/20 RU...

 

 

It's normal:

-USN: 4 full lines

-IJN: same

-German and russian navies: two lines each

And we have to kill the same amount of ships, even if there are more ships from some nations than others 

[Spellfire40]

It's a free tier 8 CA with the exact game in game utility other than captain training and credit generation, as one of the most used CA's in competitive play. And you only need to win 50 games, in two months. Sorry, but I actually don't think it's disgusting, it's pretty good in my book. If you don't have tier 9 or higher, chances are you don't 'need' a tier 8 CA anyway. If you don't play tier 9 or higher on average ( like me! ), it's an incentive to play some more high tier games. Yes, high tier games push more people to premium content ( premium account / premium ships for credit grinding ), so what? I don't see the big 'disgusting' issue here.

 

 

 

and all you said would hold true if it were T8 Mission with the added Perks:

 

More people would be able to take part.

You wouldnt lose Silver If you dont run a prem acount.

It still would be harder than on other servers were the requirements are rediculess low.

 

T8 Puts you inT9/10 games without the frustrating economy.

[ammattimies]

Yeah, I think it's unfair that you can get Takao by playing Tier 9, I'd vote for Tier 10 instead and 100 victories required.

[ThePurpleSmurf]

Yeah, I think it's unfair that you can get Takao by playing Tier 9, I'd vote for Tier 10 instead and 100 victories required.

 

Why any Tier 10? Let's make it Midway only, this will bring fun and engaging moments to the players. 

[mtm78]

 

and all you said would hold true if it were T8 Mission with the added Perks:

 

More people would be able to take part.

You wouldnt lose Silver If you dont run a prem acount.

It still would be harder than on other servers were the requirements are rediculess low.

 

T8 Puts you inT9/10 games without the frustrating economy.

 

So they are giving free copies of one of the most competitive tier 8 cruisers which is normally only available for money ( with some disadvantages like cammo and captain training ), but they can't try and push you into premium content ( even for the duration it would take you to take those 50 wins if needed? ). Basically the mission setup is so that most people who have invested into the game will be able to finish it with some minor effort to getting the wins themselves, or that's how I read it. And I don't have an issue with that idea. 

[Spellfire40]

 

So they are giving free copies of one of the most competitive tier 8 cruisers which is normally only available for money ( with some disadvantages like cammo and captain training ), but they can't try and push you into premium content ( even for the duration it would take you to take those 50 wins if needed? ). Basically the mission setup is so that most people who have invested into the game will be able to finish it with some minor effort to getting the wins themselves, or that's how I read it. And I don't have an issue with that idea. 

 

well its anoying but no problem for me since i dont get the Silver for my 3rd Izumo hull even with prem atm to get over this crap . but If you see that other Server can do it in coop or even well below T8... it seems funny that EU has to break a leg to get it especially when some of the other Arp Mission are a joke compared to the original ones.

 

Being forced to play in an harsh enviroment is no fun

And forcing people to spend time there when they chose not to wont increase the T9/10 Population in the long run

 

[Vanhal]

It's a free tier 8 CA with the exact game in game utility other than captain training and credit generation, as one of the most used CA's in competitive play. And you only need to win 50 games, in two months. Sorry, but I actually don't think it's disgusting, it's pretty good in my book. If you don't have tier 9 or higher, chances are you don't 'need' a tier 8 CA anyway. If you don't play tier 9 or higher on average ( like me! ), it's an incentive to play some more high tier games. Yes, high tier games push more people to premium content ( premium account / premium ships for credit grinding ), so what? I don't see the big 'disgusting' issue here.

 

No, the mission itself is fairly ok, at least for me, who can do it. I guess it's not ok for those that don't have tier 9.

But compared to other servers it's definitely not ok, but simply unfair. Again, like everyone explains for the million time, it's about WG EU treatment of their clients. That some are masochists and like this, it's of no consequence.

 

What is truly disgusting is exact part i quoted before - this guy who not only don't want to be treated better, but he want everyone else to be treated worse. That's unacceptable on every possible level.

[xWarMachine]

Then grind to tier 9...

You will have more chances to get the Takao later on, don't think it's a one time thing

[mtm78]

What is truly disgusting is exact part i quoted before - this guy who not only don't want to be treated better, but he want everyone else to be treated worse. That's unacceptable on every possible level.

 

I don't think you should read that as you're presenting it, but I guess it's open to interpretation. Mine is that he thinks that the mission is ok, and the other servers actually have to easy missions. Which is not saying he wants others to be treated worse, he just wants them to be treated equal to us. Isn't that the same as those who ask for lower requirements for EU, because others have it 'easier'?

 

well its anoying but no problem for me since i dont get the Silver for my 3rd Izumo hull even with prem atm to get over this crap . but If you see that other Server can do it in coop or even well below T8... it seems funny that EU has to break a leg to get it especially when some of the other Arp Mission are a joke compared to the original ones.

 

 

 

Being forced to play in an harsh enviroment is no fun

 

And forcing people to spend time there when they chose not to wont increase the T9/10 Population in the long run

 

It's not fun. I have a 33% win rate today so far, playing only tier 9 and 10. That's not really fun, but last time I had 70% and I think my results will go up in time again and if I'm winning it means I'm not doing stupid stuff ( which makes me sad as doing stupid stuff get's me killed ). 

 

I don't think this is a 'long term' thing, they might want to check some demographics from current contest and use it in upcoming marketing decisions. I also don't think it harms the population so it's abit of a 'meh' kind of situation for me. Also, I got hundreds off those -20% flags, I never needed to use them since I play so much 'low tier', this is a chance to make use of them

 

No, the mission itself is fairly ok, at least for me, who can do it. I guess it's not ok for those that don't have tier 9.

 

But compared to other servers it's definitely not ok, but simply unfair. Again, like everyone explains for the million time, it's about WG EU treatment of their clients. That some are masochists and like this, it's of no consequence.

 

Look for a lot of things like prices and such I do think they should be in relation with international currency value's, but content for missions is most likely based on server demographics ( and what WG wants to 'change' there ). As long as the missions are reasonable, I don't want them to be equal for both NA and EU markets because those markets are vastly different. That being said, I don't want to be milk cow either so things like prizes and bundles were a real issue. But this mission, imo, not so much. 

[Hanszeehock]

What is truly disgusting is exact part i quoted before - this guy who not only don't want to be treated better, but he want everyone else to be treated worse. That's unacceptable on every possible level.

 

Happy to disagree. There is nothing 'disgusting' about having a counter opinion. Perhaps you need to expand your vocabulary, so you are more like the vernacular 

[mtm78]

 

Happy to disagree. There is nothing 'disgusting' about having a counter opinion. Perhaps you need to expand your vocabulary, so you are more like the vernacular 

 

I would like to see you converse in Polish which I think is VanHal's mother language

 

That doesn't mean his opinion is right though, imo 

[Kancolle_Kongou]

 

Of course they do, I think WGEU got this right, it's the other servers that set the bar too low.

 

on the other servers it doesnt matter if your team does bad as long as YOU do good you get progress. 

Here it is 1 guy who can f*** everything up for you and lots of other people.

 

i think i would have been ok if what 1 guy does doesnt effect you and others on your team.

 

Sure i would want it to be T6-T10 that could do it but im okay with t9+ as long as YOU are the one who has control and that would make the credits worth that im losing on matches lost.

 

EDITED:

sorry if i sound ragey but i am mad at the bad thinking of the EU devs.

they could have atleast done that to make it less ragy on your team and worth the credits you lose.  If it was inn my hands i would be mad at myself and then I am the only one effected and that I need to play better.

[Spellfire40]

 

I don't think you should read that as you're presenting it, but I guess it's open to interpretation. Mine is that he thinks that the mission is ok, and the other servers actually have to easy missions. Which is not saying he wants others to be treated worse, he just wants them to be treated equal to us. Isn't that the same as those who ask for lower requirements for EU, because others have it 'easier'?

 

 

It's not fun. I have a 33% win rate today so far, playing only tier 9 and 10. That's not really fun, but last time I had 70% and I think my results will go up in time again and if I'm winning it means I'm not doing stupid stuff ( which makes me sad as doing stupid stuff get's me killed ). 

 

I don't think this is a 'long term' thing, they might want to check some demographics from current contest and use it in upcoming marketing decisions. I also don't think it harms the population so it's abit of a 'meh' kind of situation for me. Also, I got hundreds off those -20% flags, I never needed to use them since I play so much 'low tier', this is a chance to make use of them

 

Well geting more t9 Players is what was given as a reson if i remember corectlyin the spanish Forum part. Thts in my eyes BS for the reasons i allready stated. It wont efect me i probably will have her in the next 2 to 3 days powering thogh but for a non prem Player even when he has a T9 ship he has to finance it with lower Tir games and again while i totaly agree with the resons for T9/10 economy forcing it on all Players that want to compleate this.leave more than a sore aftertaste. Especally since with High School fleet inc and the neg Feedback from the purists there will be a rather Long relapse till anyone gets another shot on her (I estimate at least a year).

[mtm78]

Well geting more t9 Players is what was given as a reson if i remember corectlyin the spanish Forum part. Thts in my eyes BS for the reasons i allready stated. It wont efect me i probably will have her in the next 2 to 3 days powering thogh but for a non prem Player even when he has a T9 ship he has to finance it with lower Tir games and again while i totaly agree with the resons for T9/10 economy forcing it on all Players that want to compleate this.leave more than a sore aftertaste. Especally since with High School fleet inc and the neg Feedback from the purists there will be a rather Long relapse till anyone gets another shot on her (I estimate at least a year).

 

There is only one reason why I don't agree with you: it's 50 wins, in two months. That's... not unreasonable imo. 

[Hanszeehock]

 

There is only one reason why I don't agree with you: it's 50 wins, in two months. That's... not unreasonable imo. 

 

Agree, I know people who have done it already. I'm on 15 wins without much effort at all.

[mtm78]

 

Agree, I know people who have done it already. I'm on 15 wins without much effort at all.

 

I mean I could easilly see it as a blatant push towards premium content ( time / ships ) aka more high tier population, but the amount of wins needed in the timeframe given is just to.... reasonable, imo, to get upset about it. 

[RogDodgeUK]

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