[CATCH] DDMafiaAssociateMember Players 433 posts 6,031 battles Report post #51 Posted November 7, 2016 Midway (2/1/2): 21 Midway (1/1/3): 8 Des Moines: 21 Gearing: 23 Hakuryu (2/3/2): 21 Hakuryu (4/2/2): 20 Hakuryu (2/3/3): 22 Yamato: 23 Zao: 27 Shimakaze (type 93 mod. 2): 21 Shimakaze (type F3): 17 Hindenburg: 22 G. Kurfürst (406mm): 19 G. Kurfürst (420mm): 22 Moskva: 22 Khabarovsk: 22 Khabarovsk (ET-46): 5 Minotaur: 17 212midway is better cause those 2 fighters are a huge asset dank 420 yo is obv How do you take 13 points off one ship at once? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurbain Players 1,976 posts 2,773 battles Report post #52 Posted November 7, 2016 Midway (2/1/2): 18 Midway (1/1/3): 19 Des Moines: 21 Gearing: 23 Hakuryu (2/3/2): 21 Hakuryu (4/2/2): 20 Hakuryu (2/3/3): 22 Yamato: 23 Zao: 27 Shimakaze (type 93 mod. 2): 21 Shimakaze (type F3): 17 Hindenburg: 22 G. Kurfürst (406mm): 19 +1 = 20 (Heretics! 420mm might be dank, but 406mm is the one true caliber. RoF > Alpha) G. Kurfürst (420mm): 22 Moskva: 22 Khabarovsk: 22 Khabarovsk (ET-46): 5 - 3 = 2 (Even with ET-46 the Khaba is a great ship, but there is just no reason to use the ET-46. Their better concealment and higher flood chance don't really matter) Minotaur: 17 How do you take 13 points off one ship at once? He probably just forgot the 1 when writing the number 18. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CATCH] DDMafiaAssociateMember Players 433 posts 6,031 battles Report post #53 Posted November 8, 2016 bump Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kerberossa Beta Tester 23 posts 15,361 battles Report post #54 Posted November 9, 2016 Midway (2/1/2): 18 Midway (1/1/3): 19 Des Moines: 21 Gearing: 23 Hakuryu (2/3/2): 21 Hakuryu (4/2/2): 20 Hakuryu (2/3/3): 22 Yamato: 23 Zao: 27 Shimakaze (type 93 mod. 2): 21 Shimakaze (type F3): 17 - 3 = 14 (paranoid BBs + open seas + yolo-torps = horrible idea) Hindenburg: 22 + 1 = 23 (sturdy and deadly with good torpedo arcs. just the way I like it) G. Kurfürst (406mm): 20 G. Kurfürst (420mm): 22 Moskva: 22 Khabarovsk: 22 Khabarovsk (ET-46): 2Minotaur: 17 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #55 Posted November 9, 2016 Midway (2/1/2): 18 Midway (1/1/3): 19 Des Moines: 21 + 1 = 22 A very strong and versatile cruiser, requires some niche gameplay, but very rewarding Gearing: 23 Hakuryu (2/3/2): 21 Hakuryu (4/2/2): 20 Hakuryu (2/3/3): 22 Yamato: 23 Zao: 27 Shimakaze (type 93 mod. 2): 21 Shimakaze (type F3): 14 Hindenburg: 23 G. Kurfürst (406mm): 20 G. Kurfürst (420mm): 22 Moskva: 22 Khabarovsk: 22 Khabarovsk (ET-46): 2 - 3 = 0 Why even bother with these torps? Minotaur: 17 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CATCH] DDMafiaAssociateMember Players 433 posts 6,031 battles Report post #56 Posted November 9, 2016 When the type F3 Shima goes, this will get really interesting... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PRAVD] duoinvasion Players 390 posts 9,058 battles Report post #57 Posted November 10, 2016 Bump Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #58 Posted November 10, 2016 Midway (2/1/2): 18 Midway (1/1/3): 19 Des Moines: 22 Gearing: 23 Hakuryu (2/3/2): 21 Hakuryu (4/2/2): 20 Hakuryu (2/3/3): 22+1=23 haku power op Yamato: 23 Zao: 27 Shimakaze (type 93 mod. 2): 21 Shimakaze (type F3): 14-3=11 -too gimicky for real use Hindenburg: 23 G. Kurfürst (406mm): 20 G. Kurfürst (420mm): 22 Moskva: 22 Khabarovsk: 22 Minotaur: 17 btw it is getting harder now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CATCH] DDMafiaAssociateMember Players 433 posts 6,031 battles Report post #59 Posted November 11, 2016 bump Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EmilyFara Players 1,091 posts 2,423 battles Report post #60 Posted November 11, 2016 Midway (2/1/2): 18 Midway (1/1/3): 19-3=16 Why would anyone use this? Damage potential barely increased and doesn't have the fighters to occupy enemy fighters. Des Moines: 22 Gearing: 23 Hakuryu (2/3/2): 21 Hakuryu (4/2/2): 20 Hakuryu (2/3/3): 23 Yamato: 23 Zao: 27 Shimakaze (type 93 mod. 2): 21 Shimakaze (type F3): 11 Hindenburg: 23 G. Kurfürst (406mm): 20 G. Kurfürst (420mm): 22 Moskva: 22 Khabarovsk: 22 Minotaur: 17+1=18 Very high ROF, very damaging weapons against DDs. Very deadly (also hides in smoke with hydro) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_i2RxUTEMphjW Players 894 posts Report post #61 Posted November 11, 2016 Could anyone make the same for 'fresh meat in real MM' tier, aka T5? I'd do it but i know nothing about CVs I think that tier would be interesting to make this forum play, which ship is the best to face maybe the worst MM in the game and the newbie shock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CATCH] DDMafiaAssociateMember Players 433 posts 6,031 battles Report post #62 Posted November 13, 2016 Could anyone make the same for 'fresh meat in real MM' tier, aka T5? I'd do it but i know nothing about CVs I think that tier would be interesting to make this forum play, which ship is the best to face maybe the worst MM in the game and the newbie shock. Will do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Comrad_StaIin Beta Tester 4,594 posts 20,080 battles Report post #63 Posted November 13, 2016 Midway (2/1/2): 18 Midway (1/1/3): 16 Des Moines: 22 Gearing: 23 Hakuryu (2/3/2): 21 Hakuryu (4/2/2): 20 Hakuryu (2/3/3): 23 Yamato: 23 Zao: 27 Shimakaze (type 93 mod. 2): 21 Shimakaze (type F3): 11 Hindenburg: 23 G. Kurfürst (406mm): 20 + 1 = 21 (25 sec reload on tier 10 BB with much dakka?) G. Kurfürst (420mm): 22 - 3 = 19 (longer reload doesnt justify the DPM and penetration loss) Moskva: 22 Khabarovsk: 22 Minotaur: 18 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ATRA] aquiles7389 Beta Tester 405 posts 12,322 battles Report post #64 Posted November 13, 2016 Midway (2/1/2): 18 Midway (1/1/3): 16 Des Moines: 22 Gearing: 23 Hakuryu (2/3/2): 21 Hakuryu (4/2/2): 20 Hakuryu (2/3/3): 23 Yamato: 23 Zao: 27 Shimakaze (type 93 mod. 2): 21 Shimakaze (type F3): 11 Hindenburg: 23 G. Kurfürst (406mm): 21 G. Kurfürst (420mm): 19 +1 = 20 (The extra pens is great, also, the difference in reload is almost not noticeable when tanking) Moskva: 22 Khabarovsk: 22 Minotaur: 18 - 3 = 15 (Its highly situational, it;s almost impossible to create positive situations) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myrmix Players 949 posts 4,642 battles Report post #65 Posted November 16, 2016 bump Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POI--] dasCKD Quality Poster 2,376 posts 19,148 battles Report post #66 Posted November 20, 2016 I only have one tier 10 ship, but there's a test server for a reason after all! Midway (2/1/2): 18 Midway (1/1/3): 16 Des Moines: 22 Gearing: 23 Hakuryu (2/3/2): 21 Hakuryu (4/2/2): 20 Hakuryu (2/3/3): 23 Yamato: 23 Zao: 27 + 1 = 28 A very solid cruiser in all respects. She more than earns her place as the most popular high tiered cruiser. Shimakaze (type 93 mod. 2): 21 Shimakaze (type F3): 11 - 3 = 8 Less maneuverable than a Fubuki which herself is already carrier and destroyer bait. Even with the mediocre standard of high tier gameplay on the test server she struggles to control any battle in any meaningful way. Hindenburg: 23 G. Kurfürst (406mm): 21 G. Kurfürst (420mm): 20 Moskva: 22 Khabarovsk: 22 Minotaur: 15 (Its highly situational, it;s almost impossible to create positive situations) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #67 Posted November 20, 2016 Midway (2/1/2): 18 Midway (1/1/3): 16 Des Moines: 22 Gearing: 23 Hakuryu (2/3/2): 21 Hakuryu (4/2/2): 20 Hakuryu (2/3/3): 23 Yamato: 23 Zao: 29 Shimakaze (type 93 mod. 2): 21 Shimakaze (type F3): 5 Hindenburg: 23 G. Kurfürst (406mm): 21 G. Kurfürst (420mm): 20 Moskva: 22 Khabarovsk: 22 Minotaur: 15 shima f3 -3 zao +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XTREM] walter3kurtz Players 1,037 posts 10,815 battles Report post #68 Posted November 22, 2016 there must be some more T10 players out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EXA] KMS_Hydra Beta Tester 29 posts 9,709 battles Report post #69 Posted November 22, 2016 Midway (2/1/2): 18 Midway (1/1/3): 16 Des Moines: 22 Gearing: 23 Hakuryu (2/3/2): 21 Hakuryu (4/2/2): 20 Hakuryu (2/3/3): 23 Yamato: 23 Zao: 29 Shimakaze (type 93 mod. 2): 21 Shimakaze (type F3): 5 Hindenburg: 23 + 1 (because with reload module = daka daka) G. Kurfürst (406mm): 21 G. Kurfürst (420mm): 20 Moskva: 22 Khabarovsk: 22 Minotaur: 15 - 3 (armor lol, what armor?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yaccay Players 13 posts 1,496 battles Report post #70 Posted November 24, 2016 up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Widgetmaker ∞ Players 68 posts 3,993 battles Report post #71 Posted November 24, 2016 Midway (2/1/2): 18 Midway (1/1/3): 16 Des Moines: 22 Gearing: 23 + 1 = 24 Hakuryu (2/3/2): 21 Hakuryu (4/2/2): 20 Hakuryu (2/3/3): 23 Yamato: 23 Zao: 29 Shimakaze (type 93 mod. 2): 21 Shimakaze (type F3): 5 Hindenburg: 24 G. Kurfürst (406mm): 21 G. Kurfürst (420mm): 20 Moskva: 22-3 (never been scared of this thing) Khabarovsk: 22 Minotaur: 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ulysses_nemo Players 502 posts 14,453 battles Report post #72 Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) Bump. I know, it's quite necro, but it's an interesting topic, I would like to see the final result. I have only played T10 on the server test (Gearing and Zao), but playing T8 I have met a lot of those T10 and some are more frightening than others, so I will vote anyway to give a boost to the thread: Midway (2/1/2): 18 Midway (1/1/3): 16 Henry IV : 20 (added) Grozovoi : 20 (added) Des Moines: 22 Gearing: 24 (Edit corrected) Hakuryu (2/3/2): 21 Hakuryu (4/2/2): 20 Hakuryu (2/3/3): 23 Yamato: 23 Zao: 29+1= 30 I played it as a long range flamethrower with boosted maneuverability, I felt impossible to shoot at efficiently. Shimakaze (type 93 mod. 2): 21 Shimakaze (type F3): 5 Hindenburg: 24 G. Kurfürst (406mm): 21 G. Kurfürst (420mm): 20 Moskva: 19 (Edit: Corrected) Khabarovsk: 22 Minotaur: 12-3=9 (Edit: Corrected) He often goes down fast Edited May 10, 2017 by ulysses_nemo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] eliastion Players 4,795 posts 12,260 battles Report post #73 Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) How the hell did you manage to eliminate Minotaur in one post when she had 12 points at last poster? And you didn't clean the previous changes so there are two +1s, one -3 and one BS insta-kill in your post. When you necro a thread, shouldn't you at least try to keep to the thread rules?... Edited May 10, 2017 by eliastion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ulysses_nemo Players 502 posts 14,453 battles Report post #74 Posted May 10, 2017 My bad, I made a mistake in copy-pasting, lost the "2" and left the previous comment (Gearing and Moskva). I corrected all. The rules for remainder: "The next post copies the list and removes 3 points from the ship that they think is worst and adds 1 point to the ship they think is best, explaining why in each case, like so: Ship A: 20-3=17 (Doesn't have the firepower to make up for the lack of armour and agility) Ship B: 20 Ship C: 20+1=21 (The torpedoes are great, the ship is fast and stealthy and the guns are good)" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raziel_Walker Players 463 posts 8,787 battles Report post #75 Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) Midway (2/1/2): 18 Midway (1/1/3): 16 -3 = 13 (nobody fears a strike midway?) Henry IV : 20 Grozovoi : 20 Des Moines: 22 Gearing: 24 Hakuryu (2/3/2): 21 Hakuryu (4/2/2): 20 Hakuryu (2/3/3): 23 Yamato: 23 Zao: 30 Shimakaze (type 93 mod. 2): 21 Shimakaze (type F3): 5 Hindenburg: 24 G. Kurfürst (406mm): 21 G. Kurfürst (420mm): 20 Moskva: 19 Khabarovsk: 22 +1 =23 (alpha predator on top of the foodchain.) Minotaur: 9 Edited May 10, 2017 by Raziel_Walker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
