Tako finally hitting the EU server

[LilJumpa]

 

Eh, you can call it "rage posts" all you want. When somebody disagrees with you it's "rage" and when they don't it's not, right? Arguing that requirements on the other servers are low doesn't justify setting it far too high on this region. This only underlines the problems WG has with mismanaging their regional offices. Instead of being decent and owning up to their actions, WG EU are rubbing their customers faces in missions with distasteful disproportion - and have been for a very long time. I find it funny how you just accept being shafted like that. But that is of course up to you. The unprofessional way Mr. Conway responded to this issue hasn't been particularly impressive either.

 

Apparently it's aggravating to some that people are pointing this out and they resort to reacting with posts that aren't useful to anyone. That is a shame, but it helps the thread going.

 

Learn to read.

The post by Mobius_Einherjar is criticism with arguments, which can be discussed and I agree to the most part. No rage there. Your post is just laughable and one prime example and "EU-Feedback" in a nutshell.

 

Yeah I really got shafted, since I completed every mission since release and got every ship they offered (excluding Flint, which was my own decision) without having to particularly grind anything or put a huge amount of effort into it.

The list of free ships and stuff EU got would be quite impressive, but no use to write that all down, because you are going to abandon EU anyway and go to the promised land called NA Server.  

 

[Syrchalis]

 

They mostly go there for sealclubbing tbh, because the average player on US is distinctivly worse than on EU...

 

If I don't play ranked on Rank 5-1, then it always feels like sealclubbing. I really wonder what it must be on the NA server then.

 

I actually think the other servers made a mistake using such low requirements.

That's what I'm thinking. I'm fine with 50 wins @T9-10, but it bothers me other servers had it so easy.

[Egoleter]

There is a response on the spanish forums:

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/41129-misiones-de-arpeggio-of-blue-steel-discusion-general/page__st__580__pid__1400210#entry1400210

 

The core message is that they want to force us to play the higher tiers. Nothing about unequal treatment between the servers, instead an attemted excuse that the mission is not actual harder then the US one and that you can tier up by using weekend specials and daily win bonuses or doubloons (so they discriminate because they are greedy).

 

So they are excluding a part of the player base intentionally. If that is their official answer (I'm waiting for MrConway to confirm) my ticket to support is already prepared. It clearly shows that they do not make their missions in accordance to their communities interests like they so often proclaim.

[BlueMoon51]

I will start with a disclaimer that I personally have no interest in ARP, never played it and won't just not my thing.

 

That being said this is an issue that goes past ARP and to the heart of a problem we seem to have on the EU server. After what happened with the GNB "event" I came to the view there are two ways you can look at it. You either get upset that the EU server isn't great event-wise(or indeed equitable)or you just play and enjoy the game without making any extra effort to meet "goals" that these people set and if that results in you achieving the goals great if not you haven't gone out of your way to meet them. In the long run WG EU either change as the events become pointless or stop doing them all together. 

[Tubit101]

I will start with a disclaimer that I personally have no interest in ARP, never played it and won't just not my thing.

 

That being said this is an issue that goes past ARP and to the heart of a problem we seem to have on the EU server. After what happened with the GNB "event" I came to the view there are two ways you can look at it. You either get upset that the EU server isn't great event-wise(or indeed equitable)or you just play and enjoy the game without making any extra effort to meet "goals" that these people set and if that results in you achieving the goals great if not you haven't gone out of your way to meet them. In the long run WG EU either change as the events become pointless or stop doing them all together. 

 

There is a third option. Instead of just accepting the poor conditions on EU you change your server to NA - or any other server for that matter - you will get far better deals in every way compared to playing on the EU server.

[Nauseica]

wish i could give more +1 on that post

 

I agree completely on this post from Mobius_Einherjar, i had completing ARP missions and collecting the ships for the fun of it while i was playing the game but now im stuck due to absurd requirements to get the 2 final ships im missing Nachi and Takao. Its ok on my book to have some hard tasks to get Takao but T9 ships is absurd so does to get Nachi with a T8 ship, if they lower their tier requirement and equal for the Tier of ship you compete its fine even if they increase the wins for the Takao mission.

 

I was looking forward to finish my collection of ARP ships and start playing T8 but i wont bother if i have to be forced to play as they want

[VC381]

In fairness, the requirements for the other 8 ships are really easy and if you own some already you will be rolling in credits instead. I'm not surprised that they aren't easily giving away functionally the same ship as a know OP premium that normally costs £35. On the plus side, I might actually grind my first T9!

[Timberwolf581]

I only got a stock Fletcher, but that's not stopping me!

[Spellfire40]

I have a Fletcher,  Izumo,Ibuki, Baltimore, Taiho, Kagaro, Shimakaze but thts not the Point. I would rather do the Mission in a Range that is fun and T9 plus isnt fun. siting on 200k to 1.4 Mio while playing that range isnt fun either even with prem.

[HartwieKruppstahl]

i dont know ..... you get so many free ships for just playing the game..... and all you do is complaining.... the Tasks are not difficult require no skill, just some time.... to complain that you cant get the t8 because you dont have a t9 is beyond me.... you still get all the other ships for FREE...and if you havent got a t9 ship in one year its not WG Fault.... and compared with other Servers... the NA has easier requirements ? well in a Land were Trump is a possible PResident you have to make it easy.... i am happy that i am on the EU server and thats its a tiny requirement for a free t8 ship...

 

Be happy there a free ships... take the ones you get and are happy if not.... even grind a t9 from start is possible in 2 month time ... so plz stop complaining...

[eliastion]

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Be happy there a free ships... take the ones you get and are happy if not.... even grind a t9 from start is possible in 2 month time ... so plz stop complaining...

What? Maybe if playing WoWs is your full-time job...

[xsmilingbanditx]

What? Maybe if playing WoWs is your full-time job...

 

Well, maybe if he forgot a Letter and his actual Name is "HartzwieKruppstahl"...

Sorry, only germans may get that one and I don't mean to be offensive. It was just such an obvious Joke :-)

[HartwieKruppstahl]

What? Maybe if playing WoWs is your full-time job...

 

Actually not i havent played for a while and was t6 t7 in some branches... started to play again at end of august and have now 3 t9... and a fulltime job and wife and a kid...

 

that you didnt got one t9 with even 1000 games more is maybe because you try to sealclub  ;)

[HartwieKruppstahl]

 

Well, maybe if he forgot a Letter and his actual Name is "HartzwieKruppstahl"...

Sorry, only germans may get that one and I don't mean to be offensive. It was just such an obvious Joke :-)

 

you wouldnt get much money in the comedybuisness ;)

[xsmilingbanditx]

 

you wouldnt get much money in the comedybuisness ;)

 

Colleagues tell me otherwise, but then again there are different tastes out there :-)

Anyways, sorry for the interruption and lets get back to topic.

[Z_OnkelE]

I'm sorry, but you're wrong on the most basic factual level - all the Myokos were from missions with t7 requirement. All the Kongos: t5.

This batch of missions is the first one where requirements have been uptiered compared to the ARP ship they are about.

 

ARP Hiei + commander in March + May were in fact T7 missions for a T5 ship. So all I can say: nice wording but you were wrong. But yes, I corrected my wording as well. It is not all, but indeed some of them.

 

Oh yes because its not like idiots with 0 battles played can not buy the highest tier premium ship and start playing without having a clue about what they are doing right?

 

Your whole point in this argument is invalid.

 

I don't understand your implications at all. What do T8 premiums have to do with T9+T10? How do they make any point invalid?

[Kamikazesushi]

Isn´t this just funny?

WG giving stuff for free.....or not for free, for playing the game...as a reward....and people do not like this and demand changing the conditions.

 

You dont have to go after the misions if you dont like it.

[eliastion]

 

Actually not i havent played for a while and was t6 t7 in some branches... started to play again at end of august and have now 3 t9... and a fulltime job and wife and a kid...

 

that you didnt got one t9 with even 1000 games more is maybe because you try to sealclub  ;)

 

Well, I'm not the best example because I both play quite a lot (when I play, that is, I tend to have prolonged breaks from WoWs) and not really in a way that lets me grind high tiers. These 1000 games more might be attributed to around 300 in various ARP ships, 200 in Gremy, 300 in Błyskawica... no, wait, make it 900 since Błyskawica was my ship of choice for Ranked from Season 1, even when it was in a 7-8 tier spread AND I lacked a 15 point captain for her ;) Basically, there are good reasons why I don't really care about the credit losses I'll suffer when playing my researched-but-not-yet-bought t9 CV (or why I can just freeXP to Ibuki or Kagero if I wanted). 

This, however, doesn't change the fact that an average player won't really spend a couple hours a day on the game. A couple games, sure (though even doing that in one and the same ship every day might get really boring and frustrating if you don't really enjoy the particular vessel). But specifically grinding to tier 9 and then getting 50 victories? That hardly sounds reasonable...

[Egoleter]

Isn´t this just funny?

WG giving stuff for free.....or not for free, for playing the game...as a reward....and people do not like this and demand changing the conditions.

 

You dont have to go after the misions if you dont like it.

 

You didn't read anything posted here did you?

 

It is not about the missions themself. It is about Wargaming EU treating us differently / worse then the rest of the servers treat their players. We want equal treatment for all. If their treatment gets worse or ours getting better doesn't matter to me, as long as we all are the same for every Wargaming branch office.

[HartwieKruppstahl]

 

Well, I'm not the best example because I both play quite a lot (when I play, that is, I tend to have prolonged breaks from WoWs) and not really in a way that lets me grind high tiers. These 1000 games more might be attributed to around 300 in various ARP ships, 200 in Gremy, 300 in Błyskawica... no, wait, make it 900 since Błyskawica was my ship of choice for Ranked from Season 1, even when it was in a 7-8 tier spread AND I lacked a 15 point captain for her ;) Basically, there are good reasons why I don't really care about the credit losses I'll suffer when playing my researched-but-not-yet-bought t9 CV (or why I can just freeXP to Ibuki or Kagero if I wanted). 

This, however, doesn't change the fact that an average player won't really spend a couple hours a day on the game. A couple games, sure (though even doing that in one and the same ship every day might get really boring and frustrating if you don't really enjoy the particular vessel). But specifically grinding to tier 9 and then getting 50 victories? That hardly sounds reasonable...

 

then he doesnt get the free t8 just the other free ones... so see the free t8 ship as a reward for more veteran players or players which spent some time with the game...

 

still its a nice givaway for alot of ships and i still dont get it why people complain that they get not enought free stuff

 

problem was the same in WOW... people complain over the years so much that things are to difficult or its to much effort to get it... that nowadays you get the mighty sword of azeroth for just logging in roll with your head over the keyboard ... 

[Egoleter]

still its a nice givaway for alot of ships and i still dont get it why people complain that they get not enought free stuff

 

That is not what we are complaining about. If you bothered to read the arguments, you would know that.

[eliastion]

 

ARP Hiei + commander in March + May were in fact T7 missions for a T5 ship. So all I can say: nice wording but you were wrong. But yes, I corrected my wording as well. It is not all, but indeed some of them.

 

 

I don't understand your implications at all. What do T8 premiums have to do with T9+T10? How do they make any point invalid?

 

Oh, yes, indeed, there was that Hiei mission, I forgot that not only the 16skill captain had steeper requirements...

...maybe partially because the ship was also available in another, less prestigious mission at t5 later on. Which means that, after all, every ARP ship - save for Takao - was available in an appropriate tier mission - even though, indeed, I stand corrected: there already was an ARP mission I forgot about that did not conform to this general rule.

[FreakDC]

i dont know ..... you get so many free ships for just playing the game..... and all you do is complaining.... the Tasks are not difficult require no skill, just some time.... to complain that you cant get the t8 because you dont have a t9 is beyond me.... you still get all the other ships for FREE...and if you havent got a t9 ship in one year its not WG Fault.... and compared with other Servers... the NA has easier requirements ? well in a Land were Trump is a possible PResident you have to make it easy.... i am happy that i am on the EU server and thats its a tiny requirement for a free t8 ship...

 

Be happy there a free ships... take the ones you get and are happy if not.... even grind a t9 from start is possible in 2 month time ... so plz stop complaining...

Well we are complaining because many people don't get a free ship, because they can't do the missions... That's kinda the point.

Grinding a tier 9 from scratch in 2 month is [edited]. 99% of the players don't have that kind of free time.

 

 

Actually not i havent played for a while and was t6 t7 in some branches... started to play again at end of august and have now 3 t9... and a fulltime job and wife and a kid...

 

that you didnt got one t9 with even 1000 games more is maybe because you try to sealclub  ;)

Yeah but you play ~12 games a day on average, that's roughly 10-15 minutes per game or 2h+ a day. That is way more than most people can afford to put into.

 

Oh and you free XPed your way through the tech trees. Something like 32€ to skip the Bismarck, I'd say about 20€ for the Gneisenau and let's say 20-30€ for the rest of the ships before that.

So you played 10+ games a day and payed 70-80€ to get that Friedrich der Große, you have a couple more games in the IJN DD line so let's only add 30€ invested in free XP in that tree.

 

Even with all that money and time invested, it took you almost 2 month to go down the German BB line from tier 3-9.

 

So get of that high horse and stop boasting about feats you didn't do.

[HartwieKruppstahl]

 

That is not what we are complaining about. If you bothered to read the arguments, you would know that.

 

i read it and if you would read my post... i wrote something of NA and Trump and need to be easy and so on ;)

[Diminios]

 

You didn't read anything posted here did you?

 

It is not about the missions themself. It is about Wargaming EU treating us differently / worse then the rest of the servers treat their players. We want equal treatment for all. If their treatment gets worse or ours getting better doesn't matter to me, as long as we all are the same for every Wargaming branch office.

 

I'm not sure if some people are illiterate, trolling, or both. I think you're wasting your time replying to them, Egoleter.

still its a nice givaway for alot of ships and i still dont get it why people complain that they get not enought free stuff

 

And I don't get why you're complaining about us complaining.

 

Also, in case you missed it, Asia and Russia have easier events (it's not just NA). So 3 out of 4 regions (let's not count China here, they run their own thing) have it piss easy and... what, we don't have a right to complain about it? Because you say so?