Super CONTAINERS and Karma.

[Holaadian]

OK most of the hate users are done whit this topic so we can continue the work. 

 

Just an wild idea here.

 

That Karma will imrove your chanses of getting super containers. 

 

WE all know that Karma atm in game is useless thing and the idea has not moved anywhere at all. So why not use Karma as improvment tool for containers. Ofcourse some small % not like 1 karma 1% of more super containers. NONO rather when you have 100 Karma you get 1% more chanse that you may get the S-Container.

Not sure even how much karma can you have. Any ideas ppl ? 

 

Firstly WG would need to redo Karma. For first i would let them have trial period on normal mode as 1 compliment is +1 karma and 1 report is -1 karma. BUt whit that system i would make it +1 and 2-3 reports -1 karma. 

If that fails and ppl would just troll everyone and never hope to gain karma them self, i would take the karma out tottaly. Would increase the karma needed to gain that % from 100 to 300. (maybe more is needed as karma would not be lost only gained.)

Don't think we need some sort of negative karma points then. Like Yin and Yang. Lets face it seeing all your negative karma for nothing would demoralise players. 

 

THe second part what i been working on is, WHat if your not going after SContainers. so thous ppl would be left out. 

Solution is that whit more karma they just get more from the other containers. 

 

If atm you get 100 000 from normal credit container. Whit 300 karma you get like 30% more. Same whit others. But the thing is if you have 114 karma from 300 you only get 11,4% increas from containers. 

The % atm are just suggestions. Dose not need to be that much or in %.

Could be the container gives fixed value, depending on karma you have. ( needs to figured out by WG what they feel like it.)

 

As most of us never give compliments to ppl , rather push the report button if they kill you or say smthing stupid in chat.

Who seen me in game know that im not that nice guy and end up yelling at ppl smthing along the lines of " YOU useless dildos my granny could play better then you all" 

And i do report ppl alot who are tottaly usless or just very bad at playing. I admit doing it.

I very rarely give out compliments to ppl who play well or save my [edited]. But if Karma had value for ingame goods. I would change my ways. Im sure many of ppl would start to think and act nicer.  

 

Well theres the risk of ppl farming karma but i think that be changed. 1 person can give same person karma only once per weak or 2 times. Creating new acconts to get karma can be resolved whit giving that at RANK 13. So dont think many ppl would go and do that just to get 1% more. ( never know)

In all if it would be added i think the game would look little bit nicer and so would be ppl. Don't count on me im [edited]till death and beyond. 

 

 

So any thought on my idea would it be do able and would it be usefull ??? 

 

 

 

Sorr on my bad writing. Been bad since i was young and english is not my native language. 

 

[Jadefalken]

Just an wild idea here. 

 

That Karma will imrove your chanses of getting super containers. 

 

WE all know that Karma atm in game is usless thing and the idea has not moved anywhere at all. So why not use Karma as imrovment tool for containers. Ofcourse some small % not like 1 karma 1% of more super containers. NONO rather when you have 100 Karma you get 1% more chanse that you may get the S-Container.

Not sure even how much karma can you have. Any ideas ppl ? 

 

As most of us never give compliments to ppl , rather push the report button if they kill you or say smthing stupid in chat.

Who seen me in game know that im not that nice guy and end up yelling at ppl smthing along the lines of " YOU useless dildos my granny could play better then you all" 

And i do report ppl alot who are tottaly usless or just very bad at playing. I admit doing it.

I very rarely give out compliments to ppl who play well or save my [edited]. But if Karma had value for ingame goods. I would change my ways. Im sure many of ppl would start to think and act nicer.  

 

WEll Theres the risk of ppl farming karma but i think that be changed. 1 person can give same person karma only once per weak or 2 times. Creating new acconts to get karma can be resolved whit giving that at RANK 13. SO dont think many ppl would go and do that just to get 1% more. ( never know)

In all if it would be added i think the game would look little bit nice and so would be ppl. Dont count on me im [edited]till death and beond. 

 

 

So any thought on my idea would it be do able and would it be usefull ??? 

 

 

 

PS: THe sided matches continue.  

 

 

Not really a good idea as the amount of players down voting and reporting for you having a good game is biased.

 

 

[xXx_Blogis_xXx]

all knows fake reports make you lose karma so no point of it

[ZoidFile]

THD would approve this.

 

But no, people would only spam the report button even more. Karma is way to easy to lose.

A trade system, where you could trade your karma points for in-game items would make more sense. But only if gained points can't be taken away by reports.

 

Maybe a special camouflage or flag that can only be gained with karma points?

[Niibler]

I'd rather take my chances with a pure RNG system than having Karma in the mix. In my personal experience the -1 Karma usually comes from people that:

a) don't like being killed;

b) a + don't know how they were killed;

c) don't like you are playing a Khabarosvk/Zao/<insert here whatever the person considers OP>;

d) don't know game mechanics, <gets killed in smoke> = "cheater";

e) other nonsense reasons;

[anonym_EFwxJOPWzlER]

tbh i think it's a very silly idea, so my answer is strongly

 

[Holaadian]

This was just to see the predictable future. Sometimes EVil is nessesery. 

[cro_pwr]

My karma points approves

 

[JiksTBS]

Well, as I'm sailing considerably north of 100 karma I think this is an excellent idea

 

People can only give 7 negative reports a day so how bad could it get?

[von_chom]

it is actually a valid idea how to make ingame chat and behaviour much healthier

i could imagine giving some 0,00x% percentage advantage based on karma

 

however this will in no way work with today's karma/report crap system

 

[Hedgehog1963]

OP seems to have  a sore bottom...

[Kann_Nix_Extreme]

So you guys blame others for your lack of karma? If good play results in lots of false reports, how comes there are people with great karma around? I'm sorry, but not understanding how this works and therefore disliking the idea is awfully close to this:

 

b) a + don't know how they were killed

[...]

d) don't know game mechanics, <gets killed in smoke> = "cheater";

 

Holaadian I like the idea a lot! Great to see there are creative people around, thinking about how to make use of these (so far pointless) compliments

[Crooq_Lionfang]

I like the idea. It would promote some good behavior, because it would actually pay off to be friendly and try to play well. Sure, some tweaks to the System would be necessary, but let's say 0.01% increase for every Point of Karma, with a Maximum of lets say 2% sounds quite nice in my opinion.

[OldGrandad]

Pointless as like others have said the karma system is poorly implemented. Had more down votes due to enemy players not liking being sunk etc.

 

PS. The OP had a hissy fit noting his edited first post. Just wait until BBV sees someone using his beloved red font colour......  

[ShuggieHamster]

if the community was fair, understood the game mecahnics and valued good play ... great idea

 

 

but given some of the community this is a horrible idea open to abuse, trolling, bias, cronyism, threats and would make things even more toxic.

[Shaka_D]

So in short everyone is a F [edited]in WG games and there nothig good to come for any sort of this thing. WEll ok Fine No more ppl needed to say it. Goodbye !!! 

A little dramatic don't you think? Take criticism constructively.

[Shaka_D]

BLAH BLAH

 

Fact, I killed two ships in a game last night, had 5 karma points going in, was very polite and friendly, only good sportsmanship, had 3 when I came out. It is a reality that people get reported for playing well by sore losers. In fact, they told me they reported me. If you seriously think otherwise you are delusional to the point to need a doctor. This happens ALL THE TIME! Secondly, OP needs to grow up, he handles criticism like a childish teenager.

[anonym_EFwxJOPWzlER]

So...you get 3 friends in a division giving each other karma galore, when team matches start the same will happen. It's just not a good idea, some people are just obsessed with karma

 

[ilhilh]

To all the people who think that their karma is at 0 because they are amazing players and the world is just full of haters I will say 1 thing: LOL!  

 

Sure it does happen occasionally, but some people must have huge egos to think that is the sole reason for them being at/around 0.  Most people with 0 karma are there because they speak up in chat when things don't go well - that is why mine rarely got above 6 for the first 6 months and soon descended to 0 each time.

 

And from the other side, it is also a easy way to pick up a negative report from me - far too many times I hear people dying, and then turning on <whoever> because it couldn't possibly be their own fault... and if they turn on me when I have been trying to help the team then yea, I'll happily report them.

 

From a personal point of view, I never had much problem picking up karma as I do try and co-ordinate in chat, I compliment both in chat and using the compliment options and I am a decent enough player... my problem has always been keeping hold of it.  I would actually love to see total number of compliments/reports rather than my current karma score.

 

Currently my karma is at a career high of 23 and that has come from ranked where I have tried to be positive and avoid the blame game (for a change!)

 

 

 

Back to the OP - I don't like this idea.  As much as I disagree with the notion of false reports bringing good players down (I'll just say 'lol' again as it really does amuse me), the fact remains that it is open to abuse, particularly through artificial inflation by abusing divisions, it is a bad idea.

 

And a further point to the OP: don't be so delicate - people are allowed to disagree and people are allowed to even disagree for stupid reasons.

[Shaka_D]

So...you get 3 friends in a division giving each other karma galore, when team matches start the same will happen. It's just not a good idea, some people are just obsessed with karma

 

Obsessed with a lot of things that don't really matter....is this how we all measure ourselves these days to give our lives some sort of value or distinction? Isn't it sad we need to have some sort of virtual recognition to feel better about being accepted......now I need to go find a mirror.

[Holaadian]

OK been thinking over this idea few more hrs and come up whit few things more and how to improve on that idea. 

 

Firstly WG would need to redo Karma. For first i would let them have trial period on normal mode as 1 compliment is +1 karma and 1 report is -1 karma. BUt whit that system i would make it +1 and 2-3 reports -1 karma. 

If that fails and ppl would justt troll everyone and never hope to gain karma them self, i would take thekarma out tottaly. Would increase the karma needed to gain that % from 100 to 300. (maybe more is needed as karma would not be lost only gained.)

Don't think we need some sort of negative karma points then. Like Ying and Yang. Lets face it seing all your negative karma for nothing would demoralse players. 

 

THe second part what i been working on is, WHat if your not going after SContainers. so thous ppl would be left out. 

Solution is that WHit more karma they just get more from the other containers. 

 

IF atm you get 100 000 from normal credit container. Whit 300 karma you get like 30% more. Same whit others. But the thing is if you have 114 karma from 300 you only get 11,4% increas from containers. 

The % atm are just suggestions. Dose not need to be that much or in %.

Could be the container gives fixed value, deoending on karma you have. ( needs to figured out by WG what they feel like it.)

 

 

Ok ill do more thinking and see what i can come up whit. 

[Shaka_D]

To all the people who think that their karma is at 0 because they are good and there are haters I will say 1 thing: LOL! 

 

It happens a lot of the time ilhilh, more than I reckon you think it does. It's a tool to express satisifaction and dissatisfaction toward people and it gets used. It's one of those grey areas no-one really knows the truth of except by experience. Is it the only reason good players have bad karma? No ways, I don't see it this way at all, that's too convenient an excuse and a little egotistical of anyone saying so, but is it abused? Yes, definitely, and not rarely, but I bet massively. The only thing I can't prove is numbers, but nor could you in this case. Anyone saying it's rare deserves to get their ognovoi blown up by a leander!

 

Nevertheless, the karma idea from the OP is a bad idea imho.

[Holaadian]

A little dramatic don't you think? Take criticism constructively.

 

JUst seeing the future of HATE post coming as they allways do. They got what they wanted so now they are happy and not here to ruin my idea. 

[Shaka_D]

 

JUst seeing the future of HATE post coming as they allways do. They got what they wanted so now they are happy and not here to ruin my idea. 

 

It's not ruining anyones idea, it's simply giving their opinions. We can agree or disagree, or be totally indefferent. I don't like the idea personally, but that doesn't mean I think your suggestion is stupid. You've highlighted a suggestion, and people are debating it.

[300ConfirmedKills]

So...you get 3 friends in a division giving each other karma galore, when team matches start the same will happen. It's just not a good idea, some people are just obsessed with karma

 

You can't compliment the complement of your div.