[Rant] Ranked proves once more how screwed the meta is.

[Kenliero]

5 Steps of Chapa meta in ranked:

 

1: Use radar

2: Shoot once

3: Get detected

4: Run for the next 10 minutes while everyone and their mother is shooting at you.

5: 10 Minutes later turn back from 20% health and see who are still alive.

 

I'm done with Chapa... that's just not fun...

[aboomination]

5 Steps of Chapa meta in ranked:

 

1: Use radar

2: Shoot once

3: Get detected

4: Run for the next 10 minutes while everyone and their mother is shooting at you.

5: 10 Minutes later turn back from 20% health and see who are still alive.

 

I'm done with Chapa... that's just not fun...

 

"DD first, cruisers second - don't split up, gl" 

[Shaka_D]

5 Steps of Chapa meta in ranked:

 

1: Use radar

2: Shoot once

3: Get detected

4: Run for the next 10 minutes while everyone and their mother is shooting at you.

5: 10 Minutes later turn back from 20% health and see who are still alive.

 

I'm done with Chapa... that's just not fun...

 

Yep, you nailed it here...spot on!

[Venom_Too]

The Ranked Meta is screwed, because of the Player's not the Ships.

 

If we would have better Players, ranked would be more Fun. But i usually make Jumps of Excitment if i get one capable BB which helps me out, or my DD's don't suicide in the first 3 Minutes.

 

And as harsh as it sounds, the Game is decided by DD's and CV's.

 

If CV's are in the Ranked, you simply have your Luck Roll... 50/50 is my CV the better one or not.

Same is with DD's, i have a lot of games lost simply by the Fact the enemy DD/DD's has/have known how to play and don't blew up in the first 3 minutes.

 

Also its an absoulte riddle for me.... How noone of the gunboats try to get the enemy dd's or the ca's also...

 

And for the BB-Mates, i have no words. Never seen such incompetent useless bunch of people ever, like in ranked.

E.g.: You have always the same amount of BB's in the battle: How is it possible if you group up with the bb's, that after seeing all enemy bb's plopping up on the horizon, that bb's turn around and flee.

These are not battleships, these are Pussywagons.

 

The only sparkle on the horizion are ca Players, they are ,most of the time, by far the better one then the rest.

[aboomination]

And for the BB-Mates, i have no words. Never seen such incompetent useless bunch of people ever, like in ranked.

 

 

 

[RUSSIANBlAS]

The issue with BB in Ranked is that they are really vulnerable to torps and can't really carry a game alone unlike a DD...

 

To the non BB players it might look like camping but they can't do their thing until the threats are dead.

[Venom_Too]

The issue with BB in Ranked is that they are really vulnerable to torps and can't really carry a game alone unlike a DD...

 

To the non BB players it might look like camping but they can't do their thing until the threats are dead.

 

Bla

 

Even if there are no threats, they won't move or know how to push. But ye.. pls say its ok how shitty they play.

[Dropman12]

The Ranked Meta is screwed, because of the Player's not the Ships.

 

If we would have better Players, ranked would be more Fun. But i usually make Jumps of Excitment if i get one capable BB which helps me out, or my DD's don't suicide in the first 3 Minutes.

 

And as harsh as it sounds, the Game is decided by DD's and CV's.

 

If CV's are in the Ranked, you simply have your Luck Roll... 50/50 is my CV the better one or not.

Same is with DD's, i have a lot of games lost simply by the Fact the enemy DD/DD's has/have known how to play and don't blew up in the first 3 minutes.

 

Also its an absoulte riddle for me.... How noone of the gunboats try to get the enemy dd's or the ca's also...

 

And for the BB-Mates, i have no words. Never seen such incompetent useless bunch of people ever, like in ranked.

E.g.: You have always the same amount of BB's in the battle: How is it possible if you group up with the bb's, that after seeing all enemy bb's plopping up on the horizon, that bb's turn around and flee.

These are not battleships, these are Pussywagons.

 

The only sparkle on the horizion are ca Players, they are ,most of the time, by far the better one then the rest.

 

So everybody else suck, and you have to suffer...nice.

There is just one logical flaw in whole this whining. When teams are smaller, impact of one players is bigger. Aka you have higher chance to influence battle than in random if you are good. So you either help team to win, or just dont lose star, cause incompetent useless bunch of people can hardly earn more xp than you. Inevitably you reach rank, where you are among equals. Or reach R1. Its just question of time. Or (which is very very unlikely) you are not that good and you are in fact among equals and just frustrated because it dont go how you want.

[steviln]

The issue with BB in Ranked is that they are really vulnerable to torps and can't really carry a game alone unlike a DD...

 

To the non BB players it might look like camping but they can't do their thing until the threats are dead.

 

Yes, but it can be a bit annoying to see som german BBs fight a couple of North Carolinas at long range for most of the match. That does usually not end well for the german BBs. Also, if you have a Kutuzov in the match, camping BBs burn very well. 

[Dropman12]

 

Yes, but it can be a bit annoying to see som german BBs fight a couple of North Carolinas at long range for most of the match. That does usually not end well for the german BBs. Also, if you have a Kutuzov in the match, camping BBs burn very well.

 

And where is problem? NC player play own game, beat Bism at range. So he deserve to win, he have one more star. From what you described camping BBs will hardly reach higher rank, which is fine to me.

[Venom_Too]

 

So everybody else suck, and you have to suffer...nice.

There is just one logical flaw in whole this whining. When teams are smaller, impact of one players is bigger. Aka you have higher chance to influence battle than in random if you are good. So you either help team to win, or just dont lose star, cause incompetent useless bunch of people can hardly earn more xp than you. Inevitably you reach rank, where you are among equals. Or reach R1. Its just question of time. Or (which is very very unlikely) you are not that good and you are in fact among equals and just frustrated because it dont go how you want.

 

Simply no.

DD and CV Yes... You have the most impact in the game.

 

 

Yes, its just time. There is no skill involved, the only thing which skill determines is the time you spent in ranking up. That it is simply a grind is nothing new.

And because of this:

Its an Pain in the [edited], because of the random Factor and the HUGE Skill gaps between the Players and everyone will advance in ranked, only diffrence is the games played.

 

 

[Dropman12]

 

Simply no.

DD and CV Yes... You have the most impact in the game.

 

 

Yes, its just time. There is no skill involved, the only thing which skill determines is the time you spent in ranking up. That it is simply a grind is nothing new.

And because of this:

Its an Pain in the [edited], because of the random Factor and the HUGE Skill gaps between the Players and everyone will advance in ranked, only diffrence is the games played.

 

 

 

So play them, influence game, profit. Simple.

Another logical flaw, as if its only about time, you should progress. Even bot should progres. Obviously its not the case. But what did you expect? To reach R1 in two days? Really? The better players you face, more looses for you and harder progres. Thats pure logic, not game problem. You need sklil and time to do it, thats the point. Another point you miss is that ranked is not meant to R1 for everyone. In fact only few players make it, rest will miss time or sklil.

If you cant stand random factor, play chess. Your skil will be rewarded. Or go out, enjoy sun and fresh air and play only when you have fun with it. Kinda pointless to be frustrated with video game.

[RoyalColor]

Yes, its just time. There is no skill involved, the only thing which skill determines is the time you spent in ranking up. That it is simply a grind is nothing new.

And because of this:

Its an Pain in the [edited], because of the random Factor and the HUGE Skill gaps between the Players and everyone will advance in ranked, only diffrence is the games played.

 

Grind in this game is designed to be a major feature and i'm personally pretty fine with it. If you consider this a pain then I would look for something else on the market.

 

Whenever I'm frustrated with ranked, I just go and play one random... Which is enough for me to hastily run back.

 

You guys can say whatever you want about the ships and the meta, but overall the ranked gameplay is much better quality, and more focused. Sure there are bad games, but I have never seen this level of team play, coordination and support in random games... 

[Venatacia]

I find ranked boring and it's the same ships over and over. Only done ranked twice and basically I get to rank 10 for some free goodies and then don't bother with it anymore.

[IsoA]

Atago has worked very well for me. It's just so versatile. It can push caps with friendly DDs and murder contesting DDs if they are stupid enough to show up, has enough armor and heal to take some hits and will burn anything to crisp. I have been on the top of the team with it my last 5 battles or so. Haven't taken out my Mogami, though, so I don't really know how it would work but everything I hear about Mogami at ranked sounds rather bad.

[RUSSIANBlAS]

 

Bla

 

Even if there are no threats, they won't move or know how to push. But ye.. pls say its ok how shitty they play.

 

I played the Bismarck for quite a big chunk of S5 but gave up. I tried close supporting DD (within 10km) but I'd eat way too much damage and die early. One golden rule I've found for Ranked is that you simply need to live, even if I was to kill 2+ enemies before dying there was no guarantee the rest of the team wouldn't yolo to defeat. Have to survive to influence the battle...

[Domin1c]

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Shokaku has best winrate in Ranked

claims Shokaku is underpowered

 

http://www.cheaprope.co.uk/

 

Shokaku has high winrate because the Lexington is terrible, not because the Shokaku (or CV's) are OP, but because the matchup is screwed. Check out the ranked statistics: 

 

Ships on European server

Ranked

 

 

Icon	Name	Tier	Type	Nation	Battles	WR ▼	Dmg	XP	K/D	Sh☠	Pl☠	Srv	MBH	TH
		8	CV	All
	Shokaku	8	CV	Japan	43,760	53.12%	55,025	1,411	3.1	0.9	18.9	70%	0%	0%
	Lexington	8	CV	USA	31,418	46.81%	44,429	1,269	1.9	0.7	20.8	64%	0%	0%

 

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[Shaka_D]

 

So everybody else suck, and you have to suffer...nice.

There is just one logical flaw in whole this whining. When teams are smaller, impact of one players is bigger. Aka you have higher chance to influence battle than in random if you are good. So you either help team to win, or just dont lose star, cause incompetent useless bunch of people can hardly earn more xp than you. Inevitably you reach rank, where you are among equals. Or reach R1. Its just question of time. Or (which is very very unlikely) you are not that good and you are in fact among equals and just frustrated because it dont go how you want.

 

The flaw in your theory is that you have only considered one side of the equation. There might be one other player thats as good or better in your team, with the rest being potatoes, and of course the fact that the mm doesn't do any team balancing where skill is more or less even across the teams meaning the team that actually plays better and as a team will win the game, as it should. The argument of being able to 'carry' + 'influence' is used far too loosely by people that have grabbed hold of a concept and run with it without considering actual ingame scenarios and conditons, or much else for that matter.

[Dropman12]

 

The flaw in your theory is that you have only considered one side of the equation. There might be one other player thats as good or better in your team, with the rest being potatoes, and of course the fact that the mm doesn't do any team balancing where skill is more or less even across the teams meaning the team that actually plays better and as a team will win the game, as it should. The argument of being able to 'carry' + 'influence' is used far too loosely by people that have grabbed hold of a concept and run with it without considering actual ingame scenarios and conditons, or much else for that matter.

 

Sorry, english is not my native, so I have troubles with understnding you. What does mean "far too loosely" when talking about carrying? You can hardly say good player dont influence battle. And smaller the team, the bigger influence he has.

 

Second, what i said is that having bad team does not influence your overall progres in long term. If other players are so bad in compare to the player (which is obviously case of every single forum member), that player will progress regardless. Not in that game, but in longer term for sure yes.