anonym_TymY49y5i0fs Players 117 posts Report post #1 Posted October 29, 2016 Having [3x battleships 1x cruiser and 2x destroyer / 4x battleship 1x cruiser and 1x destroyer] is horrible in ranked match when playing with cruiser. Fix it so battleships don't determine the outcome of the match, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[D_R_M] steviln Players 911 posts 18,566 battles Report post #2 Posted October 29, 2016 I do not think the battleships usually determine the outcome of a match. It rather seems that the side that manage to kill the other sides DDs first wins. At least in the battles I have been in. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] Kevbar Beta Tester 687 posts 8,087 battles Report post #3 Posted October 29, 2016 Having [3x battleships 1x cruiser and 2x destroyer / 4x battleship 1x cruiser and 1x destroyer] is horrible in ranked match when playing with cruiser. Fix it so battleships don't determine the outcome of the match, Other than if you e-mail us all with the times you'll be playing Ranked so that we will only crew our tugboats especially for you, how exactly do you suggest that I or the rest of the community address this? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenerallKrizmuz Players 711 posts Report post #4 Posted October 29, 2016 Too many DDs if you ask me 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] Shaka_D Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 3,691 posts 15,960 battles Report post #5 Posted October 29, 2016 Too many dd's. too many bb's. It's either on or the other in every game, or both. Kudo's to those brave souls playing cruisers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-IAN-] IanH755 Players 2,100 posts 7,141 battles Report post #6 Posted October 29, 2016 Cruiser players - Masochists., all of them Until WG enforces a limit on the number of BB's it'll never change, and WG will NEVER enforce a BB limit, EVER! So, for the "average" player, the cruiser line will slowly wither away and die as it's just too hard for "Mr Average" and he won't have fun, so he and everyone like him will swap to BB's until there is nothing but BB's left and the game dies (just like WoWP is doing) because 12v12 BB's is boring as crap for Mr Average when there's no Cruisers to One shot. True Story! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[D_R_M] steviln Players 911 posts 18,566 battles Report post #7 Posted October 29, 2016 Cruiser players - Masochists., all of them Until WG enforces a limit on the number of BB's it'll never change, and WG will NEVER enforce a BB limit, EVER! So, for the "average" player, the cruiser line will slowly wither away and die as it's just too hard for "Mr Average" and he won't have fun, so he and everyone like him will swap to BB's until there is nothing but BB's left and the game dies (just like WoWP is doing) because 12v12 BB's is boring as crap for Mr Average when there's no Cruisers to One shot. True Story! It is possible to survive quite a bit and make a lot of damage with cruisers, except the british one even if you are an average player. You simply stay behind the BBs, HE spam the enemy battleships and go in to make damage with torpedoes at the end of the battle when the survivers are more scattered. However, this will make your teammates go into a rage so you may lose because halt your team "afk" after having thrown their screen into the wall of rage because of your passive play That is the main reason I hate the british cruiser line. They removed the only tactic average or less players can use for large parts of the game in most circumstances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-IAN-] IanH755 Players 2,100 posts 7,141 battles Report post #8 Posted October 29, 2016 I agree that it's very possible for Mr Average to survive in a Cruiser right now, it's just not much fun for him, and for a "game" that's a massive problem. If it's not fun then they'll stop playing (or swap to BB's etc). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[D_R_M] steviln Players 911 posts 18,566 battles Report post #9 Posted October 29, 2016 On the other hand, playing BB and DD have become more fun with fewer Cruisers! It actually feels good to play a BB without being constantly HE spammed by three cruisers as soon as you moved toward the enemy. It is also more fun to pay DDs without those pesky cruisers lurking around everywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #10 Posted October 29, 2016 Thread title should be changed into "Too many BBs in every effing battle in the game!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-IAN-] IanH755 Players 2,100 posts 7,141 battles Report post #11 Posted October 29, 2016 On the other hand, playing BB and DD have become more fun with fewer Cruisers! It actually feels good to play a BB without being constantly HE spammed by three cruisers as soon as you moved toward the enemy. It is also more fun to pay DDs without those pesky cruisers lurking around everywhere. True point! It might just become World of Battleships and Destroyers as both benefit from the lack of Cruisers and CV's most! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IRQ] AnotherDuck [IRQ] Players 2,930 posts 7,510 battles Report post #12 Posted October 30, 2016 On the other hand, playing BB and DD have become more fun with fewer Cruisers! It actually feels good to play a BB without being constantly HE spammed by three cruisers as soon as you moved toward the enemy. It is also more fun to pay DDs without those pesky cruisers lurking around everywhere. If you're in a battleship, you WANT more cruisers. They're easily penetrated and can't do as much damage to you as other battleships. The reason there are so few cruisers in the first place are because all battleships have driven them away. I'd much rather have three cruisers spamming HE in my general direction than three battleships spamming AP in my general direction. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #13 Posted October 30, 2016 Thread title should be changed into "Too many BBs in every effing battle in the game!" Fun anecdote, I started a random battle in which there were 4 DDs per side (rather than 2-3) and the usual 5 BBs per side. One of the BB heroes complained that it was World of Destroyer, completely oblivious to the irony of the situation. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DPRK] maderi Beta Tester 61 posts Report post #14 Posted October 30, 2016 My Kutuzov loves everything , more BB's and DD's hell ill even do Cruisers ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[D_R_M] steviln Players 911 posts 18,566 battles Report post #15 Posted October 30, 2016 If you're in a battleship, you WANT more cruisers. They're easily penetrated and can't do as much damage to you as other battleships. The reason there are so few cruisers in the first place are because all battleships have driven them away. I'd much rather have three cruisers spamming HE in my general direction than three battleships spamming AP in my general direction. It depends on type of cruiser and how they play. if you meet cruisers stupid enough to do what their teammates want, such as hunting DDs, protect BBs and so on, cruisers are nice. If you however meet cruiser that consistently stay at maximum range and spam you with HE, it is not very fun. If the cruiser keep enough distance, they can be very difficult to get a decent hit on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuccaneerBill Players 513 posts 11,276 battles Report post #16 Posted October 30, 2016 Take the Chapayev and use it as a radar ship first, gunnery platform second. Get behind a rock near cap and spam radar and hydro, works well. Kutusov also work well, Atagos too. New Orleans is not great Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PKTZS] JapLance Weekend Tester 2,567 posts 18,265 battles Report post #17 Posted October 30, 2016 Take the Chapayev and use it as a radar ship first, gunnery platform second. Get behind a rock near cap and spam radar and hydro, works well. Kutusov also work well, Atagos too. New Orleans is not great Wow, that sounds funny as hell... WoWs at its finest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuccaneerBill Players 513 posts 11,276 battles Report post #18 Posted October 30, 2016 Wow, that sounds funny as hell... WoWs at its finest Yep! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oely001 Players 3,015 posts 7,832 battles Report post #19 Posted October 30, 2016 Actually BB can do everything better than CA, so driving CA is pointless. Until BBs are nerfed, but I doubt that this will happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSSHI] Kazomir Players 1,566 posts Report post #20 Posted October 30, 2016 Actually, BBs do not need a nerf (except bismarck, i think, with its sonar and secondaries it is downright immune to any DDs) Re-introducing the CVs back into the game is the top priority. A CV in a ranked match is hell for a DD and for a BB too, thus allowing more space for cruiser play. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[D_R_M] steviln Players 911 posts 18,566 battles Report post #21 Posted October 30, 2016 Re-introducing the CVs back into the game is the top priority. A CV in a ranked match is hell for a DD and for a BB too, thus allowing more space for cruiser play. Not really, if they make more people play CV again, I guess I rather play something else. The game wouuld be better without really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oely001 Players 3,015 posts 7,832 battles Report post #22 Posted October 30, 2016 To get CV back into the game a BB AAA nerf is mandatory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSSHI] Kazomir Players 1,566 posts Report post #23 Posted October 30, 2016 Not really, if they make more people play CV again, I guess I rather play something else. The game wouuld be better without really. Have fun with BB spam then. I dont mean the CV needs to be buffed, it needs to be playable, even if weaker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSSHI] Kazomir Players 1,566 posts Report post #24 Posted October 30, 2016 To get CV back into the game a BB AAA nerf is mandatory. On some BBs, yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tenacious_torps ∞ Players 1,373 posts Report post #25 Posted October 30, 2016 Having [3x battleships 1x cruiser and 2x destroyer / 4x battleship 1x cruiser and 1x destroyer] is horrible in ranked match when playing with cruiser. Fix it so battleships don't determine the outcome of the match, You can fix that yourself easily. Two known methods: a) play cruiser or b) don't play ranked. Personally I went for b) rather quickly, but that's more down to ranked rage ranks above random rage for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites