British Cruiser pain

[_DarthGunny_]

Im enjoying them they are fragile as hell and take shed loads of damage but not bad so far

[Danucu_Tigger]

 

I am only at T4 and I cracked and freexped Caledon because Weymouth was such a pain! 5 defeats in a row!! ​  

Had a really hard time hitting high speed manovering cruisers with those shells. And when they hit, it's just as rewarding as scoring battleship shell overpenetrations. I am thinking about selling it and using the slot for the Russian cruiser line I abandoned after losing patience with Bogatyr...

PS: who else trained his/her 12pt Captain that came with HMS Campbelton at the previous update with the 4point Demolition Expert skill in anticipation of British HE spammer cruiser line??

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Dreadnought1985]

Im up to Tier 7 with the Fiji - Enjoying it a lot more than the 1-6 tier ,  i play a distant support spam away at the  BB and the Cruisers hold fire or pop some smoke if the incoming fire starts getting close ,  The AP is good at penning all CA ive come up against at close range, The torpedoes are accurate but have really thin arc. they are really affective for close up launchers,    AA is okay even with no Defensive fire , Find it hard to hunt the DD so far but sonar has saved my bacon a few times   .                                                                                                 

 

 

[Hootsthenoo]

English cruisers are fun, but you need to learn how to play them: P

 

Where do you get the 'English' from????

[Plaztma]

ITs just like British Tanks all over again in WoT. They were amazing all terrain infantry support vehicles and WG made them essentially crapup to like tier 7. First line and its light cruisers is just beyond me.

 

Dont forget Mathilda at tier 4 and the great Cromwell at tier 6

[themassivegerman]

The Leander is actually quite nice. A lot better than the Emerald. Still learning though, but doing better all the time.

 

[ulcusrodens]

 

I'm only at T4 yet, but I think the Weymouth and Caledon are decent ships for their tier.

 

Perhaps you don't really know how to play with them.

 

:edit:

You haven't even played the RN CLs ... and you're complaining about them? go figure

 

not to be rude, but i see from your profile that you've played 3 battles with weymouth, and won 1.

8 battles with caledon, and won 5 (not bad)

12 battles with danae, 33% WR (by the way i played 11 battles, with 70% WR)

 

are you starting to change your mind? at least a bit?

[WingedHussar_Adler]

1,2,3,4,5 - sucks or who cares about 1 2 3 and 4 5 arw pain (free exp if you can)

 

On 6 thing start to happens. Dmg, longer torps, utility.

 

Love them.

[lup3s]

 

not to be rude, but i see from your profile that you've played 3 battles with weymouth, and won 1.

8 battles with caledon, and won 5 (not bad)

12 battles with danae, 33% WR (by the way i played 11 battles, with 70% WR)

 

are you starting to change your mind? at least a bit?

 

WR with such few battles doesn't really matter I think .. And I must admit I'm no real fan of the Danae, took me 7 battles to get my first victory

But in the end I like playing these ships. I like their acceleration, the limited speed loss during turns, the AP shells and the torpedoes (+ arcs).

 

 

Compared to equal tier ships, I think the Weymouth and Caledon are on par with most of them.

 

[Smeggo]

The Leander is the first light on the horizon. Still I am utterly shocked that I regularly got pwned in a 1vs1 gunfight with a russian DD. 

 

[Mookle]

This is what disappoints, and reminds me of WOT:

 

Playing the Leander.

 

130 hits for 32,719 damage

14 hits received for 32.732 damage

 

You're up against the curve the whole game.

I feel overly disappointed by this line. 

 

Cheers

 

[anonym_MfZ6T7iwWpUC]

1,2,3,4,5 - sucks or who cares about 1 2 3 and 4 5 arw pain (free exp if you can)

 

On 6 thing start to happens. Dmg, longer torps, utility.

 

Love them.

 

​1, 2 & 3 you are right, nobody cares. But the Danae at 4 was the first I started to have fun in. As far as the Emerald at 5 is concerned, I am having an absolute blast. Its a marmite thing, you either love them or hate them. I understand why people do hate T5 and below. But I guess I have always been a bit odd.

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

 

​1, 2 & 3 you are right, nobody cares. But the Danae at 4 was the first I started to have fun in. As far as the Emerald at 5 is concerned, I am having an absolute blast. Its a marmite thing, you either love them or hate them. I understand why people do hate T5 and below. But I guess I have always been a bit odd.

 

Good point (and what a wonderfully British way of describing the situation : it's a marmite thing...).

To add to your comment, as many people have pointed out, it's not a good business decision on Wargaming's part to introduce such a line that turns so many potential customers off.

[Pyro_O]

They are lackluster up to tier 5, but as many have stated before, it gets better at Leander. You still have to play like you have 10% health left but at least you can rack up the damage in Leander. I can't speak for T7 and above but I can't really imagine them being worse than the Leander. The RN CL's are not bad and you can have a fun time in them but in general I don't really think the playstyle is fun in them. You have to hide all the time. Specially against 2 tiers higher ships it's a true nightmare. Even DD's rip you apart in 1-on-1 duels with HE spam if they just sail away from you.

 

When (not if, you MUST) you use cover effectively, you can rack up the damage really well in these ships assuming there's other ships than angled BB's to shoot at. It's a shame these ships rely too much on your own team (for spotting and giving the enemy something else to shoot at). 

[Pajosaurus]

Just had some first hand experience fighting against them in Clemson and Isokaze. Citadeled Caledon 2 times with Clemson's HE and Danae 3 times with Isokaze's. I bounced a crapton of their shells in both ships from close range. Have to say that these low tier cruisers seem very unthreatening.

[anonym_MfZ6T7iwWpUC]

Just had some first hand experience fighting against them in Clemson and Isokaze. Citadeled Caledon 2 times with Clemson's HE and Danae 3 times with Isokaze's. I bounced a crapton of their shells in both ships from close range. Have to say that these low tier cruisers seem very unthreatening.

 

One plus point to all the negativity is how some players don't give you the respect they should. They may not have HE, but they can still rack up some damage to the unaware (or stupid), and from T3 onwards have torps. DD players seem to be the worst offenders. I have sunk more DD's than I normally would.

 

[Pyro_O]

 

One plus point to all the negativity is how some players don't give you the respect they should. They may not have HE, but they can still rack up some damage to the unaware (or stupid), and from T3 onwards have torps. DD players seem to be the worst offenders. I have sunk more DD's than I normally would.

 

 

I can second this. I fear things won't stay that way forever though. The ships are fresh, in a month or two DD's won't be as careless and people will know to angle against those AP spamming smoke clouds.

[burib]

One thing people often forget with those ships is that if you give them the chance, they have one of the highest DPM tier for tier. While another cruiser does a full turn away, its usually enough for two full broadsides. Bye bye 20k hitpoints

[anonym_MfZ6T7iwWpUC]

Plus don't forget repair part 1 from tier 4 onwards. No other cruiser gets that until much later, I believe.

[Ryuuteimaru]

Plus don't forget repair part 1 from tier 4 onwards. No other cruiser gets that until much later, I believe.

 

The repair is pretty much useless until T8.

[Seikin]

Terrible line so far. Was really looking forward to this line coming out - even came back to the game to play them...  First few tiers didn't seem too bad - but then all the enemy ships were the same terrible RN cruisers..

 

Now in the Emerald.. Every Single Game = Tier7   How the hell are you supposed to be competitive against tier 7 ships with no HE? I honestly can't say if its any good or not against another tier5 cruiser cos I haven't had the chance - but it certainly feels VERY poor compared to my Furu and Koningsberg. What makes it worse is that it comes just after a heavily armoured BB line...  so facing lots of those guys, I may as well be flicking rubber-bands at them.  So that leaves torps...  6km range, but a 10km spotting distance. Not great odds trying that in a DD - but take away the manoeverability and add citidels and, well, good luck on that.. That just leaves island camping...  a playstyle that I detest. Why should the line have to spend half the game hiding to have just a chance at being competitive when other ships don't?

 

Feels like I'll be burning even more free xp on my continuing quest to find one that is 'average' (I'm not expecting anything good - but finding an average ship will do).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[indycar]

My opinion about the RN CAs is that it's the worst cruisers WG offered till now(With the exception of Belfast CA). I feel that WG just didn't care about the RN CAs.

 

there must be something wrong with our bloody ships today....  where have you seen ANY brit CA. all i seen is TEN CLs

[Akula971]

I must congratulate Wargaming on this credit sink, err line of cruisers. Yes the Leander can be made to work, by being an utter coward. It can be fun, and is far to situational, like the Atlanta. However the Atlanta WILL wreck DDs, and DDs usually steer clear of them. No such fear for these ships. AP can will bounce The enemy see them as XP presents.

 

Now I usually run premium consumables for credits, extra heal, sonar, etc, and I noticed that after a victory (Leander) I made -6K loss! Probably because I could only do 38K damage, one DD sunk, 77 hits, most zero damage.

 

The chap with 33%-41%  WR, and thinks they are ok? I have some cash tied up with a Nigerian prince, I'll send you the details, just need your bank account details please.

 

For me my last game in the line tonight, then they can gather dust until fixed, if ever. Back to DDs for me. (Belfast was a waste of money for me, once spotted every ship turns to fire on you, its so funny I could cry).

[thepuma2012]

my first experiences with britisch cruisers low tier:  don´t like them.  But I know it changes a little from tier 5... let´s see.

[gravelbelly]

I see so few of them in battles. Not as much as I would have expected from a new line of ships. Maybe people are boycotting them.