[CGE] Doughnut_Jimmy Beta Tester 83 posts 3,810 battles Report post #1 Posted October 20, 2016 Ok,now i'm getting cheesed off.German BB's with a minimal angle are negating almost all my AP shots. Last game was a German BB fest,100+shots fired less than 10k damage done,cos you know,who sails side on to me Another issue i'm having is BB's jus delete me from any angle any range,i'm dodging like a rabbit on speed and a couple shots manage to hit me and BOOM.Not happy about this British cruisers take full damage,still early days. Still I must percy vere(wish I could have a captain named that) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COOOP] Shirakami_Kon Players 2,624 posts 12,759 battles Report post #2 Posted October 20, 2016 Ok,now i'm getting cheesed off.German BB's with a minimal angle are negating almost all my AP shots. Last game was a German BB fest,100+shots fired less than 10k damage done,cos you know,who sails side on to me Another issue i'm having is BB's jus delete me from any angle any range,i'm dodging like a rabbit on speed and a couple shots manage to hit me and BOOM.Not happy about this British cruisers take full damage,still early days. Still I must percy vere(wish I could have a captain named that) Any BB with a minimal angle will negate almost all of your shots. Don't blame the German ones only. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] Yaffle1234 Beta Tester 146 posts 13,592 battles Report post #3 Posted October 20, 2016 Face it they are complete Sh!t.... 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lordeh Players 6 posts 4,991 battles Report post #4 Posted October 20, 2016 don`t bother trying to make it work it won`t, instead understand why it doesn't work 1. The AP only has nothing to do with historical accuracy or gameplay , but has everything to do with wanting to protect the Premium tier 7 and 8 battleships and giving them something to shoot at that can`t really damage them back 2. The reason Belfast will be allowed to have HE is simply because its a premium ship and earns money for the company 3. I feel pretty sure the accountants are happy with the new British line of cruisers and the game designers are "crying into their Vodka". After all nobody likes to build something that is deliberately flawed. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,668 battles Report post #5 Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) ...or you know...maybe, just maybe...try to adapt to the new line? EDIT: ...before complaining on the Forums only a couple of hours after the release of said line..in TWO threads. Edited October 20, 2016 by Jethro_Grey 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXx_Blogis_xXx Alpha Tester, Players 5,335 posts 35,510 battles Report post #6 Posted October 20, 2016 Face it they are complete Sh!t.... more or less agree with that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Tyke Players 456 posts 10,463 battles Report post #7 Posted October 20, 2016 ...or you know...maybe, just maybe...try to adapt to the new line? EDIT: ...before complaining on the Forums only a couple of hours after the release of said line..in TWO threads. More should read this and take note. If you do not like the new RN line stop playing it, go back to whatever you played before. Not everyone dislikes it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anzio_Anzai Players 50 posts 1 battles Report post #8 Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) Ok,now i'm getting cheesed off.German BB's with a minimal angle are negating almost all my AP shots. Last game was a German BB fest,100+shots fired less than 10k damage done,cos you know,who sails side on to me Another issue i'm having is BB's jus delete me from any angle any range,i'm dodging like a rabbit on speed and a couple shots manage to hit me and BOOM.Not happy about this British cruisers take full damage,still early days. Still I must percy vere(wish I could have a captain named that) You played 2 battles at tier 4 and 2 at tier 5. Like above give it some more battles. I too had some problems to play certain ships and tanks due to my aggressive/scout type of gameplay. Some ships are just as useful in battle as afk player but sometimes it's players fault for playing it the wrong way. Edited October 20, 2016 by Anzio_Anchovy365 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] Shaka_D Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 3,691 posts 15,939 battles Report post #9 Posted October 20, 2016 Ah, I see the sock puppets have appeared to counter negative sentiment which is already rife. The brit line is a major, and I mean major, disappointment it seems. How could this have happened? To the supertesters, could you share a little of the iinfo your forwarded to WG, i.e. what feedback did you give them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COSTS] Hanszeehock Alpha Tester 3,692 posts 5,959 battles Report post #10 Posted October 20, 2016 Ah, I see the sock puppets have appeared to counter negative sentiment which is already rife. The brit line is a major, and I mean major, disappointment it seems. How could this have happened? To the supertesters, could you share a little of the iinfo your forwarded to WG, i.e. what feedback did you give them? I wish I could Don, but I cannot. But in previous threads I've made my position clear on what I think. The devs do not have to listen to Supertesters, they have their own agenda and make their own decisions, they take into account various factors, not just our feedback. Hopefully, once they have stats on how these new ships are performing they will make some balancing changes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damo74 Beta Tester 704 posts 2,459 battles Report post #11 Posted October 20, 2016 I wish I could Don, but I cannot. But in previous threads I've made my position clear on what I think. The devs do not have to listen to Supertesters, they have their own agenda and make their own decisions, they take into account various factors, not just our feedback. Hopefully, once they have stats on how these new ships are performing they will make some balancing changes From what I have seen today, I wonder if some (not you) supertesters feel pressured into telling WG whatever they think they want to hear. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[E-R-A] snipershot Beta Tester 324 posts 9,404 battles Report post #12 Posted October 20, 2016 ...or you know...maybe, just maybe...try to adapt to the new line? EDIT: ...before complaining on the Forums only a couple of hours after the release of said line..in TWO threads. I think first impressions are important, dont you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CGE] Doughnut_Jimmy Beta Tester 83 posts 3,810 battles Report post #13 Posted October 20, 2016 To the brown eyed boys out there,if you read the text,i say I will perservere and its still early days. I can only assume my views don't count,terribly sorry to have bothered you with a different point of view. It wont happen again,hopefully Jethro grey and Anzio will be happy to have silenced me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drunken_Jedi Players 849 posts 2,954 battles Report post #14 Posted October 20, 2016 I'm trying to press on, however the line has been vastly underpowered so far. I just had to free XP 1/2 the way to Emerald because the Danae is just so utterly trash. Now I've gotten the Emerald it's a bit better, I finally have bloody smoke. Down side is now I'm getting thrown into matches with Myoko's and Nagato's because of the wonderful Tier V MM where you're always bottom tier. I really do hope the Fiji and upwards are better like people are saying, so far the lines been one big disappointment. My average damage is pathetic and my WR is falling like a rock, not like me at all - I'm no unicum but I class myself slightly better than average but the short comings of the ships themselves are really obvious at this stage, the complete uselessness of their AP against angled targets being the prime factor - even when shooting superstructure you get pitiful damage. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EIRE] Viktor_Lima Players 181 posts 14,342 battles Report post #15 Posted October 20, 2016 My Emerald just was dropped into the 2nd T7 game full of Scharnhorsts and Colorados. It is ... difficult to get anything done, even with maximum caution. Curse the new matchmaker at T5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warsinger2 Players 261 posts 3,501 battles Report post #16 Posted October 20, 2016 ...or you know...maybe, just maybe...try to adapt to the new line? EDIT: ...before complaining on the Forums only a couple of hours after the release of said line..in TWO threads. How dare you bring common sense and reason to any of these threads.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Siegwald Beta Tester 299 posts 3,637 battles Report post #17 Posted October 20, 2016 I started out with Emerald (which was OKish) and I am at Leander now. Big improvement here. Tiers 7+ are supposed to be competitive in a way. It is really unfortunate that the lower half of the tree seems to be really really bad from what I read. Bad design decision here... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuccaneerBill Players 513 posts 11,276 battles Report post #18 Posted October 20, 2016 Stuff like the St Louis and Bogatyr and Brits get the Caledon. Hilarious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 5,744 posts 32,730 battles Report post #19 Posted October 20, 2016 ...or you know...maybe, just maybe...try to adapt to the new line? EDIT: ...before complaining on the Forums only a couple of hours after the release of said line..in TWO threads. new line so obviously there will be butthurt players spamming whine threads the first day this new line is released ... happens on any forum when something is added to a game " I'm a RN fanboi and want my ships to be OP af; deleting enemy ships with a single salvo while being invulnerable to Yamato-calibre shells " 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xerkics Beta Tester 1,218 posts Report post #20 Posted October 20, 2016 ITs just like British Tanks all over again in WoT. They were amazing all terrain infantry support vehicles and WG made them essentially crapup to like tier 7. First line and its light cruisers is just beyond me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOME] RobS80 [HOME] Weekend Tester 969 posts 10,664 battles Report post #21 Posted October 20, 2016 From what I have seen today, I wonder if some (not you) supertesters feel pressured into telling WG whatever they think they want to hear. I would think it far more likely that many of the ST tried to tell them, and nobody was listening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] G01ngToxicCommand0 Beta Tester 2,177 posts 23,318 battles Report post #22 Posted October 20, 2016 I would think it far more likely that many of the ST tried to tell them, and nobody was listening. ^this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gravelbelly Players 197 posts Report post #23 Posted October 20, 2016 Are people surprised about this?Just like in WoT, WG has crapped on the Brits. In both games we have "different" types of guns. In WoT you had high pen, relatively quick firing, low alpha and mega expensive rounds (from tier 8 upwards on expense). The rounds bounced so many times it was a joke. The tanks Armour was mediocre at best, crap as standard. All enemy tanks had to do was rush you to kill you. In WoWS, you have "Different" AP, that will bounce with very little angling. NO HE, relatively fast firing, low armour easily penned. All an enemy Cruiser has to to do angle and rush you to kill you. The only way Flamu killed that NO i his video was that the NO turned broadside at the last moment or he would have crapped all over the Edinburgh. 2 games, 1 Company, same Bullcrap. This will never change. Now there will be 1 or 2 gems in each tree, but that is it. Most will be very situational, just like in WoT. Some good players will make some ships work, most will probably struggle. Oh and don't expect any buffs this side of 2018. Possibly a nerf to Belfast though. I'm not saying complaining is a bad idea, but some of the complaints read like they were surprised. Not me. But hey, I'll play the Fiji, because it can work somewhat, not too sure about the rest,a nd will get the Belfast once WoWS have sold it to every other region first and EU/Brits last. For some reason WG love crapping on the Brits, the US market is bigger I suppose, so they throw them a bone every now and then. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 5,744 posts 32,730 battles Report post #24 Posted October 20, 2016 imo the biggest pain is achieving victory with the amount of potatoes at the lowest tiers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drunken_Jedi Players 849 posts 2,954 battles Report post #25 Posted October 20, 2016 Are people surprised about this?Just like in WoT, WG has crapped on the Brits. In both games we have "different" types of guns. In WoT you had high pen, relatively quick firing, low alpha and mega expensive rounds (from tier 8 upwards on expense). The rounds bounced so many times it was a joke. The tanks Armour was mediocre at best, crap as standard. All enemy tanks had to do was rush you to kill you. In WoWS, you have "Different" AP, that will bounce with very little angling. NO HE, relatively fast firing, low armour easily penned. All an enemy Cruiser has to to do angle and rush you to kill you. The only way Flamu killed that NO i his video was that the NO turned broadside at the last moment or he would have crapped all over the Edinburgh. 2 games, 1 Company, same Bullcrap. This will never change. Now there will be 1 or 2 gems in each tree, but that is it. Most will be very situational, just like in WoT. Some good players will make some ships work, most will probably struggle. Oh and don't expect any buffs this side of 2018. Possibly a nerf to Belfast though. I'm not saying complaining is a bad idea, but some of the complaints read like they were surprised. Not me. But hey, I'll play the Fiji, because it can work somewhat, not too sure about the rest,a nd will get the Belfast once WoWS have sold it to every other region first and EU/Brits last. For some reason WG love crapping on the Brits, the US market is bigger I suppose, so they throw them a bone every now and then. This, 100%. People will say we're being silly and that they wouldn't put so much work into a line for it be so bad it's a case of "git gud". Sorry, no. I feel that the people making the game these days haven't the slightest clue how it actually works or plays and invariably end up ignoring the advice of their own testing team and community contributors resulting in a joke of a line for the most hotly anticipated nation in the entire game. A nerf to the Belfast before they launch it would be the final straw at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites