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Poland (ORP)
ORP (Okręt Rzeczypospolitej Polskiej) – Ship of Polish Republic.
When you want to tell about single ship, you’re using ORP shortcut (e.g. ORP Orzeł), but when you want to tell about some ships, you should use OORP shortcut (e.g. OORP Orzeł, Sokół, Sęp etc. Instead ORP Orzeł, ORP Sokół, ORP Sęp etc.).

 

Polish Destroyers before and during WWII:


 

ORP Wicher

The lead ship of the Wicher class, was a Polish Navy destroyer. She saw combat in the Invasion of Poland, which began World War II in Europe.
 

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Main informations:

Name: ORP Wicher

Namesake: Gale

Ordered: 2 April 1926

Builder:Chantiers Navals Français, Blainville-sur-Orne, Caen

Laid down: 19 February 1927

Launched: 10 July 1928

Commissioned: 8 July 1930

Fate: Sunk 3 September 1939
 

General characteristics:
Class & type:Wicher-class destroyer

Displacement: 1,540 t , Full: 2,010 t

Length: 106,9 m (351 ft, 9 in)

Beam: 10,5 m (34 ft, 5 in)

Draught: 3,5 m (11 ft, 6 in)

Speed: 33,8 knots (62.6 km/h, 38,9 mph)

Complement: 162

Armament:

 

Since 1930:

4 x 130 mm wz. 19/24 Schneider-Creusot Model 1924 guns

2 x 40 mm wz. 28 Vickers-Armstrong 2 pdr Mk II AA guns 

2 x double 550 mm/533 mm/450 mm torpedo launchers

2 x 240 mm Thornycroft depth charge launchers

2 x Wz BH200 depth charge launchers

60 x wz. 08 naval mines

 

Since 1939:

4 x 130 mm wz. 19/24 Schneider-Creusot Model 1924 guns

2 x 40 mm wz. 28 Vickers-Armstrong 2 pdr Mk II AA guns

4 x 13,2 mm Hotchkiss wz. 30HMGs (2x2)

2 x double 550 mm/533 mm/450 mm torpedo launchers

2 x Wz BH200 depth charge launchers

60 x wz. 08 naval mines

 


 

ORP Burza

was a Wicher-class destroyer of the Polish Navy which saw action in World War II.

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Main informations:

Name: ORP Burza

Namesake: Thunderstorm

Ordered: 2 April 1926

Builder:Chantiers Navals Français, Blainville-sur-Orne, Caen

Laid down: 1 November 1927

Launched: 16 April 1929

Commissioned: 10 July 1932

Decommissioned: 28 June 1960

Fate: Turned into museum ship; later scrapped
 

General characteristics:
Class & type:Wicher-class destroyer

Displacement: 1,400 t , Full: 1,910 t

Length: 106,9 m (350 ft, 9 in)

Beam: 10,5 m (34 ft, 5 in)

Draught: 3,5 m (11 ft, 6 in)

Installed power: 35000 shp
Propulsion: geared turbines

Speed: 33,8 knots (62.6 km/h, 38,9 mph)

Complement: 162

Armament:

Since 1929:
4  x 130 mm guns
2 x  40 mm FLAK guns
4 x 13.2 mm (0.52 in) Hotchkiss MG
6 x 550 mm torpedo launchers
2 x depth charge launchers

30 x naval mines on double racks


Since 1942:
2 x 130 mm guns
1 x 76 mm FLAK guns
4 x  40 mm FLAK guns
2 x  20 mm FLAK guns
3 x 533 mm torpedo launchers
2 x depth charge launchers
5 x depth charge throwers

 


 

ORP Grom

was the lead ship of her class of destroyers serving in the Polish Navy during World War II. She was named after the Polish word for "thunderclap".

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Main informations:

Name: ORP Grom

Namesake: Thunderclap

Ordered: 17 April 1935

Builder:  J. Samuel White & Co. Ltd., Coves

Laid down: 1 July 1927

Launched: 20 July 1936

Commissioned: 11 May 1937

Decommissioned: 4 May 1940

Fate: Sunk in the fjord Rombaken near Narvik in Norway
 

General characteristics:
Class & type:Grom-class destroyer

Displacement: 1,975 t - standard, 2,183 t – normal, 2,400 t full

Length: 114 m (374)

Beam: 11.3 m (37 ft, 1 in)

Draught: 3,3 m (10 ft, 10 in)

Installed power: 54,000 shp (40.000kW)
Propulsion:
Two Parsons' steam turbines,  3 boilers and 2 shafts

Speed: 39 knots (72 km/h, 45 mph)

Range: 3,500 neutical miles (6,500 km/h / 4,000 mi) at 15 knots (28 km/h / 17 mph)

Complement: 192

Armament:
7 × 120 mm (4.7 in) Bofors wz. 34/36 guns
2 × double 40 mm (1.6 in) AA Bofors guns
4 × double 13,2 mm AA HotchkissHMG
6 × 550 mm (22 in)/533 mm (21.0 in) torpedo launchers
2 x depth charge launchers, 20 wz. BH 200 bombs
44 x naval mines

 


 

ORP Błyskawica

is a Grom-class destroyer which served in the Polish Navy during World War II and is the only ship of the Polish Navy awarded the Virtuti Militari medal. It is preserved as a museum ship in Gdynia, the oldest preserved destroyer in the world.

She was the second of two Grom-class destroyers, built for the Polish Navy by J. Samuel WhiteCowes in 1935–37. The name means Lightning. The two Groms were some of the most heavily armed and fastest destroyers on the seas during World War II.

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Main informations:

Name: ORP Błyskawica

Namesake: Lightning

Ordered: 29 March 1935

Builder:  J. Samuel White & Co. Ltd., Coves

Laid down: 1 October(!) 1935

Launched: 1 October 1936

Commissioned: 25 November 1937

Decommissioned: 1 May 1976

Honours and awards: Virtuti Militari, 4th Class

Fate: Museum ship
 

General characteristics:
Class & type:Grom-class destroyer

Displacement: 1,975 t - standard, 2,183 t – normal, 2,400 t full

Length: 114 m (374)

Beam: 11.3 m (37 ft, 1 in)

Draught: 3,3 m (10 ft, 10 in)

Installed power: 54,000 shp (40.000kW)
Propulsion:
Two Parsons' steam turbines,  3 boilers and 2 shafts

Speed: 39 knots (72 km/h, 45 mph)

Range: 3,500 neutical miles (6,500 km/h / 4,000 mi) at 15 knots (28 km/h / 17 mph)

Complement: 192

Armament:
Since 1937:

7 x 120mm wz. 34/36 Bofors (2x2 i 1x1),
4 x 40mm wz. 36 Bofors,
8 x 13,2mm wz. 30 Hotchkiss,
6 x 550mm torpedo launchers
2 depth charge launchers 20 bombs
44naval mines
Since 1941:
8 × 
QF 4-inch (101.6 mm) Mk XVI AA guns
4 × 40 mm (1.6 in) AA guns
4 × 20 mm (0.79 in) AA guns

6 × torpedo launchers

 


 

ORP Orkan and ORP Huragan

The expected name of the Polish destroyers Grom-class planned ships of the Grom class of destroyers ordered for the Polish Navy shortly before World War II. They were to be built in Poland, the first destroyers so constructed, and were to be named Huragan ("hurricane") and Orkan ("windstorm"), respectively. Their design included greater power and displacement than the first two ships of the class. Their construction was interrupted by the beginning of World War II and they were never completed.

 

Main informations:

Name: OORP Orkan, Huragan

Namesake: Windstorm, Hurricane

Ordered: 1 May 1939

Builder:   Polish Naval Yard, Gdynia
 

General characteristics:
Class & type:Grom-class destroyer

Displacement: 2,045 t - standard, 2,214 t – normal, 2,470 t full

Length: 114 m (374)

Beam: 11 m (36 ft, 1 in)

Draught: 3,46 m (11 ft, 4 in)

Installed power: 56,500 shp (42.100kW)
Propulsion:
Two Parsons' steam turbines,  3 boilers and 2 shafts

Speed: 39 knots (72 km/h, 45 mph)

Range: 3,500 neutical miles (6,500 km/h / 4,000 mi) at 15 knots (28 km/h / 17 mph)

Complement: 192

Armament:
7 × 120 mm (4.7 in) Bofors wz. 34/36 guns
2 × double 40 mm (1.6 in) AA Bofors guns
4 × double 13,2 mm AA HotchkissHMG
6 × 550 mm (22 in)/533 mm (21.0 in) torpedo launchers
2 x depth charge launchers, 20 wz. BH 200 bombs
44 x naval mines

 


 

ORP Orkan
formerly HMS Myrmidon was an M-class destroyer of the Polish Navy during World War II. The name translates as "windstorm". She was sunk by U-378 on October 8, 1943 in the Barents Sea.

Probably it was second ship named “Orkan”, first was building 3 years early, but that construction was interrupted by the beginning of World War II and it was never completed.

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Main informations:

Name: ORP Orkan
Namesake: European windstorm
Builder:
Fairfield Shipbuilding and Engineering Company, Govan, Scotland

Laid down: 7 December 1939
Launched: 2 December 1941
Acquired: 18 November 1942

Commissioned: 18 November 1942

Decommissioned:  8 October 1943

Fate:  sunk with 178 hands, 44 saved
 

General characteristics:

Displacement: 1,935 t - standard

Length: 110 m (362 ft)

Beam: 11,20 m (36 ft 9 in)

Draught: 4,52 m (14 ft 10 in)

Installed power: 19,000 shp (1,150 kW)
Propulsion: 2 shaft geared turbines, 2 boilers 48,000hp

Speed: 36 knots (67 km/h)

Complement: 20

Armament:
3 double x 120 mm Mk XI guns
1 x 
102 mm 
Mk V FLAK gun
x 40 mm FLAK guns

2 x 20 mm FLAK guns
12 large caliber FLAK guns
4 x 533 mm
depth charge launcher

depth charge thrower

 


 

ORP Garland (H37)

British destroyer G-class from the interwar period and World War II, serving 1940-1946 in the Polish Navy. After the war, in 1949-1964, it served in the Navy as a Dutch Hr. Ms. "Marnix".

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Main informations:

Name: ORP Garland

Builder:  Fairfield Shipbuilding and EngineeringGovanScotland

Ordered: 5 March 1933

Laid down: 22 August 1934

Launched: 23 October 1935

Acquired: 3 May 1940 from British Royal Navy

Commissioned: 3 May 1940

Decommissioned: 24 September 1946

Fate: Returned to Royal Navy
 

General characteristics:
Class & type: G-class destroyer

Displacement: 1,370 t – standard, 1913 t - full

Length: 98,5 m (323 ft)

Beam: 10,1 m (33 ft)

Draught: 3,8 m (12, 5 in)

Installed power: 34,000 shp (25.000kW)
Propulsion: 
Parsons geared steam turbines, 2 shafts, 3 Admiralty, 3-drum water-tube boilers

Speed: 36 knots (67 km/h, 41 mph)

Range: 5,530 neutical miles (10,240 km/h / 6,360 mi) at 15 knots (28 km/h / 17 mph)

Complement: 137 (peacetime), 146 (wartime)

Sensors and processing systems: ASDIC

Armament:
2 x 120 mm guns
6 × 20mm FLAK guns
4 x 533 mm Hedgehog torpedo launchers
2 × depth charges launchers

4 × depth charges throwers

 


 

ORP Piorun 

was an N-class destroyer used by the Polish Navy during the WWII.

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Main informations:

Name: ORP Piorun

Namesake: Thunderbolt
Ordered: 15 April 1939

Builder:  John Brown & CompanyClydebank

Laid down: 26 July 1939

Launched: 7 May 1940 as HMS Nerissa

Acquired: 5 October 1940 from British Royal Navy

Commissioned: 4 November 1940

Fate: 28 September 1946 - returned to Royal Navy
 

General characteristics:
Class & type: N-class destroyer

Displacement: 1,773 t – standard, 2384 t - full

Length: 109 m (351 ft, 6 in)

Beam: 11 m (36 ft)

Draught: 3,5 m (11, 5 in)

Installed power: 53,641 shp (40,000kW)
Propulsion: 
Parsons geared steam turbines, 2 shafts, 2 Admiralty steam boilers

Speed: 36 knots (67 km/h, 41 mph)

Range: 5,700 neutical miles at 15 knots or 3200 neutical miles at 20 knots.

Complement: 183 (peacetime), 200 (wartime)

Armament:
6 x 120 mm Mk XII (3xII) guns
1 × 102 mm QF Mk V gun
4 x 40 mm FLAK (1xIV)
5 × 533 mm depth charges launchers

2 × depth charges throwers
 


 

ORP Kujawiak 

was a British Hunt-class destroyer escort, formerly named the HMS Oakley.

Kujawiak was built by Vickers-Armstrongs at the company's High Walker yard on the River Tyne. Her keel was laid down on 22 November 1939 and she was launched on 30 October 1940. Originally commissioned into the Royal Navy, she was renamed and commissioned into the Polish Navy in June 1941.

Kujawiak was sunk on 16 June 1942 after running into a mine near Malta while participating in Operation Harpoon. 13 Polish sailors died and 20 were wounded.

 

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Main informations:

Name: ORP Kujawiak
Builder:  
Vickers-Armstrong, High Walker, Tyne

Laid down: 22 November 1939

Launched: 30 October 1940 as HMS Oakley

Commissioned: 17 June 1941

Fate:  sunk by mine on 16 June 1942, near Malta
 

General characteristics:
Class & type: Hunt Type II

Displacement: 1,050 t – standard, 1490 t - full

Length: 85 m (278 ft, 9 in)

Beam: 9.5 m (32 ft, 2 in)

Draught: 2.4 m (7 ft, 9 in)

Installed power: 19,000 shp (14,200 kW)
Propulsion: 
shaft steam turbines

Speed: 27 knots (50 km/h, 31 mph)

Range: 2,500 neutical miles at 20 knots  (40 km/h) or 3700 neutical miles at 14 knots (26km/h).

Complement: 160

Armament:
6 x 120 mm guns (3 twin turrets)
4 × 40 mm FLAK
2 to 4 x 20 mm FLAK

6 × depth charges throwers

 


 

 

ORP Krakowiak (L115)

was a British Hunt II-class destroyer escort, used by the Polish Navy during World War II. Initially built for the Royal Navy, it bore the name of HMS Silverton during British use.

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Main informations:

Name: ORP Krakowiak
Builder:  
J.S. White & Co.Cowes

Laid down: 22 November 1939

Launched: 5 December 1939 as HMS Silverton

Commissioned: 28 May 1941

Decommissioned: 28 september1946

Fate:  returned to Royal Navy
 

General characteristics:
Class & type: Hunt Type II class destroyer

Displacement: 1,050 t – standard, 1490 t - full

Length: 85 m (278 ft, 9 in)

Beam: 9.5 m (32 ft, 2 in)

Draught: 2.4 m (7 ft, 9 in)

Installed power: 19,000 shp (14,200 kW)
Propulsion: 
shaft steam turbines

Speed: 27 knots (50 km/h, 31 mph)

Range: 2,500 neutical miles at 20 knots  (40 km/h) or 3700 neutical miles at 14 knots (26km/h).

Complement: 160

Armament:
6 × 102 mm (4.0 in) universal Mk XVI guns
4 × 40 mm (1.6 in) Pom-Pom AAcannons
4 × Oerlikon 20 mm (0.79 in) AA cannons
2 × Lewis machine guns
2 × depth charge launchers
2 × Thornycroft depth charge mortars
110 x depth charges

 

 

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ORP Ślązak 

 

(Polish for Silesian) was a World War II Hunt-class destroyer. Initially laid down in 1940 for the Royal Navy as HMS Bedale, in 1942 she was commissioned by the Polish Navy.

 

 

 

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Main informations:

 

Name: ORP Ślązak
Laid down: 1940 as HMS Silverton

 

Commissioned: 17 April 1942

 

Decommissioned: 28 september 1946

 

Fate:  returned to Royal Navy

 

 

General characteristics:
Class & type: Hunt-class destroyer

 

Displacement: 1,050 t – standard, 1490 t - full

 

Length: 85.3 m (280 ft)

 

Beam: 9.6 m (31 ft)

 

Draught: 2.4 m (7 ft, 9 in) / 3.9 m (13 ft)

 

Installed power: 19,000 shp (14,200 kW)
Propulsion: 
shaft steam turbines

 

Speed: 27 knots (50 km/h, 31 mph)

 

Range: 2,500 nmi (4,600 km; 2,900 mi) at 20 kn and (37 km/h; 23 mph) or 3,700 nmi (6,900 km; 4,300 mi) at 14 kn (26 km/h; 16 mph

 

Complement: 160

 

Armament:
6 x 102 mm QF 4 inch Mk XVI naval guns (3 twin turrets)
4 x 40 mm pom-pom cannons
2 to 4 x 20 mm Anti Aircraft cannons

2 x depth charge launchers
4 x depth charge throwers

 

 

 


 

 

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Polish Cruisers before and during WWII:

 


 

 

ORP Dragon,

 

also know as HMS Dragon (D46), was a D- or Danae-class cruiser built for the Royal Navy. She was launched in Glasgow in December 1917, and scuttled in July 1944 off the Normandy beaches as part of Arromanches Breakwater.

 

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Main informations:
Name: HMS Dragon (ORP Dragon in Poland)
Ordered: 1916
Builder: Scotts Shipbuilding and Engineering Company, Greenock
Laid down: 24 January 1917
Launched: 29 December 1917
Commissioned: 16 August 1918 (15 January 1943 in Poland)
Fate: To Polish Navy, 15 January 1943


General Characteristics:
Class & type: Danae-class light cruiser
Displacement: 

4,276 long tons (4,345 t) – light

5,603 long tons (5,693 t) – full

4,850 long tons (4,928 t) – after 1924
Length: 445 ft (136 m)
Beam: 46,5 ft (14.2 m)
Draught: 14.5 ft (4.4 m)
Propulsion: Six Yarrow-type water-tube boilers Parsons geared steam turbines, two shafts, 40,000 shp (30 MW)
Speed: 29 knots (54 km/h; 33 mph)
Range: 2,300 nmi (4,300 km)
Complement: 462
Armament: 
1918:

• 6 × BL 6 in L/45 Mark XII on single mountings CP Mark XIV (152 mm)

• 2 × 3 in (76 mm) Mk II AA guns

• 2 × 40 mm QF 2 pdr "Pom-pom" AA guns

• 12 × 21 in (533 mm) torpedoes (4 triple launchers)
1930:

• 6 × 152 mm Mk XII guns

• 3 × 102 mm Mk V AA guns

• 2 × 40 mm 2 pdr Pom-pom AA guns

• 12 × 533 mm torpedo launchers
1942:

• 6 × 152 mm Mk XII guns

• 2 × 102 mm Mk V AA guns

• 6 × 40 mm 2 pdr Pom-pom AA

• 12 × 533 mm torpedo launchers
1943:

• 5 × 152 mm guns

• 1 × 102 mm gun

• 8 × 40 mm 2 pdr Pom-pom AA guns

• 3 × quadruple mounting Mark VII 2 pounder Mark VIII gun

• 12 × 20 mm AA guns

• depth charge launcher

Armour:

3 inch side (amidships)

2, 1¾, 1½ side (bow and stern)

1 inch upper decks (amidships)

1 inch deck over rudder

 

 

 

 

HMS Danae

 

during the latter part of World War II commissioned as ORP Conrad, was the lead ship of the Danae class cruisers (also known as the D class), serving with the Royal Navy between the world wars and with the Polish Navy during World War II.

 

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Main informations:
Name: HMS Danae (ORP Conrad in Poland)
Builder: 
Armstong Whitworth
Laid down: 1 December 1916
Launched: 26 January 1918
Commissioned: 22 July 1918
Decommissioned: 4 October 1944
Fate: Transferred to Poland

General Characteristics:

Class & type: Danae-class light cruiser
Displacement:

4,276 tons

5,603 tons – full

4,850 – after 1924
Length: 445 ft (136 m)
Beam: 46.5 ft (14.2 m)
Draught: 14.5 ft (4.4 m)
Propulsion: Six Yarrow-type water-tube, boilers, parsons geared steam, turbines, two shafts, 40,000 shp
Speed: 29 knots (54 km/h; 33 mph)
Range:

1,060 tons of oil

1,480 nautical miles (2,740 km; 1,700 mi) at 29 knots (54 km/h; 33 mph)

6,700 nautical miles (12,400 km; 7,700 mi) at 10 knots (19 km/h; 12 mph)
Complement: 462
Armament:

 

 

1918:

six BL 6-inch (152.4 mm) L/45 Mark XII guns on single mountings CP Mark XIV

 

two QF 3 inch (76.2 mm) Mk II AA guns

two 40 mm QF 2 pdr "Pom-pom" AA guns

twelve 21 in (533 mm) torpedoes (4 triple launchers)

1930:

six BL 6-inch (152.4 mm) L/45 Mark XII guns

three QF 4-inch (101.6 mm) Mk V AA guns

two 40 mm 2 pdr Pom-pom AA guns

twelve 533 mm torpedo launchers

1942:

six 6-inch (152 mm) Mk XII guns

two 4-inch Mk V AA guns

six 40 mm 2 pdr Pom-pom AA

twelve 533 mm torpedo launchers

1943:

five 6-inch (152 mm) guns,

one 4-inch (102 mm) gun

8 x 40 mm 2 pdr Pom-pom AA guns

3 x quadruple mounting Mark VII 2 pounder Mark VIII guns

12 x 20 mm AA guns

 

depth charge launcher

Armour:
3 inch side (amidships)

2, 1¾, 1½ side (bow and stern)

1 inch upper decks (amidships)

1 inch deck over rudder

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Polish Guard Ships before and during WWII:

 

 

 


 

 

ORP General Haller 

 

was a Filin-class guar ship originally built for the Imperial Russian Navy. She was later acquired by the Polish Navy and served until sunk in the Polish Defensive War on 6 September 1939

 

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Main informations:
Name: ORP General Haller
Builder: Ab Crichton naval yard in Turku, Finland
Launched: 1916
Fate: Sold to Poland, 1921

 

General Characteristics:
Class & type: Filin class guard ship
Displacement: 342 tons
Length: 55 m (180 ft 5 in)
Beam: 7 m (23 ft)
Draft: 2.9 m (9 ft 6 in)
Speed: 14.5 knots (26.9 km/h; 16.7 mph)
Complement: 60
Armament: 

2 x 3 in (76 mm) guns

4 x machine guns

30 x mines

 

 

 


 

 

ORP Komendant Piłsudski 

 

was a Filin-class guard ship originally built at Ab Crichton naval yard in TurkuFinland, for the Imperial Russian Navy. She was bought by the Polish Navy in 1920 and served until scuttled in the Invasion of Poland on September 30, 1939.

 

Raised by the Germans, she was subsequently renamed Heisternest (M 3109) and served in the KriegsmarineHeisternest was sunk in a U.S. bomb raid in NantesFrance, on September 16, 1943.

 

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Main informations:

 

Name: ORP Ślązak

 

Ordered: 1 December 1916
Builder: 
Ab Crichton naval yard TurkuFinland
Laid down: 1917 

 

Commissioned: 29 December 1920

 

Decommissioned: 16 september 1943

 

Fate:  Sunk

 

 

General characteristics:
Class & type: Filin-class guard ship

 

Displacement: 350  t – standard, 438,3 t - full

 

Length: 50 m (164 ft)

 

Beam: 9.9 m (32 ft 5 in)

 

Draught: 2.9 m (9 ft, 5 in)

 

Installed power: 19,000 shp (1,150 kW)
Propulsion: 2 piston steam machines, 2 steam boilers, 2 
shaft

 

Speed: 14.5 knots (26.9 km/h; 16.7 mph)

 

Complement: 60

 

Armament:
2 × 3 in (76 mm) guns
2 × Hotchkiss machine guns

 

2 x Maxim machine guns
30 × naval mines

 

 

 

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The End.

 

PS: Errors may occur in the information, as well as linguistic and grammatical mistakes. I don't know English very well. I'm not also an expert, and the posts were supposed to present the Polish Navy from the time before and during World War II from my perspective. I tried do it the best I can.

 

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Great work, although you got wrong pic for HMS Danae, instead of cruiser you pasted Leander class frigate (also named Danae tho) commissioned in 1967.

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The name ORP Orkan was applied to HMS Myrmidon when the latter was lent to the ORP.

And it is a picture of this ship that you have under the section for the improved Grom class, ORP Orkan & ORP Huragan.

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Thank you for your valuable comments. I improved my mistakes.

 

The name ORP Orkan was applied to HMS Myrmidon when the latter was lent to the ORP.

And it is a picture of this ship that you have under the section for the improved Grom class, ORP Orkan & ORP Huragan.

You have right with the photo of HMS Myrmidon, but... "Their construction was interrupted by the beginning of World War II and they were never completed." Maybe after 3 years in 1942 Polish Navy leased HMS Myrmidon and called again "ORP Orkan". It follows that we had two ships with this same name.

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You have right with the photo of HMS Myrmidon, but... "Their construction was interrupted by the beginning of World War II and they were never completed." Maybe after 3 years in 1942 Polish Navy leased HMS Myrmidon and called again "ORP Orkan". It follows that we had two ships with this same name.

Yeah, but placing that picture in the section dedicated to the never completed improved Grom class is... misleading?

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Hi.

What u can say about ORP Solidarnosc ??

i seen before something about that ship. can u you bring some info ?

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Yeah, but placing that picture in the section dedicated to the never completed improved Grom class is... misleading?

Removed. Thanks.

I added information about ORP Orkan which exist and I updated photo.

 

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What u can say about ORP Solidarnosc ??

i seen before something about that ship. can u you bring some info ?

 

I'd never heard about ORP "Solidarność". I checked this in the Internet. Some people discuss about Polish Aircraft Carrier name, which never exist as well as OORP "Jan Paweł II", "Popiełuszko". :)

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Removed. Thanks.

You're welcome. I tried to look for drawings or models of those two ships, for a substitute picture, but unfortunately I didn't find anything.

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You're welcome. I tried to look for drawings or models of those two ships, for a substitute picture, but unfortunately I didn't find anything.

These ships looked exactly like their predecessors from GROM-class, even the equipment was similar. Of course if it had been built. After the beginning of the Second World War, Germans didn't use sheet metal and they didn't complete ships construction. I haven't enough information about this ships. Maybe ships were destroyed in the bombing you know.

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These ships looked exactly like their predecessors from GROM-class, even the equipment was similar. Of course if it had been built. After the beginning of the Second World War, Germans didn't use sheet metal and they didn't complete ships construction. I haven't enough information about this ships. Maybe ships were destroyed in the bombing you know.

According to the wiki article "superstructure and funnels were to be grouped together", probably to improve arcs of fire for AA weapons. If that piece of info is correct their profile would have been somewhat different.

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Yeah, it make a sense. After 10-15 years they could elaborate better weapons than "old" GROM-class ships.

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ok i finded that ship . look on this link. i also copy paste info from that web.

http://www.combinedfleet.com/furashita/solida_f.htm

 

The first of three projected battlecruisers for the Polish Navy, Solidarnoç's construction was continually delayed and interrupted by shipyard strikes in Gdansk. Her main armament was to be domestically-made triple 12" guns but the armament industry was so far behind schedule that Poland elected to adapt American 12" guns destined for a cancelled Alaska-class large cruiser. Solidarnoç, carrying the largest guns in the Baltic, was completed just two months before Germany invaded Poland.

While working up, it was discovered that 'B' turret had serious problems that only complete removal could alleviate. While Solidarnoç was in drydock having the turret removed, Germany moved East and the war was on. Polish spies had foretold the arrival of heavy German naval units, so the drydock was flooded and Solidarnoç, minus her 'B' turret, went forth to battle. Caught by ScharnhorstSchleswig-Holstein, and Lützow off Gdansk in the opening moments of the war, Solidarnoç was sunk in a shower of 11" shells, but not before two hits from her domed 12" turrets eventually forced Scharnhorst into port for repairs.

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I read some on that side you found and i guess it is all poor fan fiction :)

 

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To add few cents here: Solidarność ( Eng: Solidarity ) was a name of a free trade union and assembly of dissidents which ultimately doomed post-Yalta system in Poland in free elections of 1989. However, before its establishment in 80s the name did not bear any special meaning and would not have been used as a ship`s name. 

It could be a bit different story in our times though. 

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ORP Gryf

Name: ORP Gryf

Namesake: griffin

Ordered: 11 May 1934

Builder: Chantiers et Ateliers A. Normand Le Havre

Laid down: 14 November 1934

Launched: 29 November 1936

Commissioned: 27 February 1938

Fate: sunk, scrapped 3 September 1939

 

 

 

 

 

General characteristics:

 

Displacement: 2,227 t

Length: 103.00 m (337 ft 11 in)

Beam: 13.06 m (42 ft 10 in)

Draft: 3.60 m (11 ft 10 in)

Propulsion: two Sulzer 8SD48 engines, 6,000 hp (4,500 kW)

Speed: 20 knots (37 km/h; 23 mph)

Range: 9,500 nmi (17,600 km; 10,900 mi) @ 14 knots (26 km/h/16 mph)

Complement: 162 + 60

 


Armament:

 

 6 × 120 mm (4.7 in) Bofors wz. 34/36 guns (2 × 2 and 2 × 1) in four turrets

 4 × 40 mm (1.6 in) Bofors wz. 36 AA guns (2 × 2)

 4 × 13.2 mm (0.52 in) Hotchkiss wz. 30 HMG's (2 × 2)

 8 × naval mine racks, up to 600 mines

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORP_Gryf_(1936)

 

 

 

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I think there is no many people know that Poland before war was close to get our own battelship. Polish admiral Jerzy Świrski had an idea to buy some pre-dreadnoughts from US Navy but all cost (price, crew training, transport, maintenance and other) was higher than Polish Navy budget. In 1940 there was another idea to received from british old french battleship "Paris". Ship would sail under two flags - french and polish and would be renamed to "Okręt Francuski (OF) Paris" (French Ship (OF) Paris). This idea was also abandoned because "Paris" was heavily worn out and obsolete. Also there was lack of polish sailors to serve on it.

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There were quite a few tries from the Polish Navy command to get the BBs. First was during the preparations to sign the treaties ending the Great War. Poland wanted it's share from both German and A-H navies. GB didn't agree for such demands and the case was dropped (Poland got only few torpedoboats from Germany). Next was the old tsarist navy as Poland demanded from Soviet Russia one Gangut class BB (among smaller units). Still polish-soviet peace teaty of Riga omited that point. Later was proposition from US Congress to give Poland (for free) 5 predreadnoughts of the Virginia-class, but the cost of maning the ships and getting them across the Atlantic was greater than yearly budget of the Polish Navy and Poland refused the deal. In 1930's Chile offered Poland to buy the Almirante Lattore battleship but the navy comision deemed her in too poor condition and Navy Command turned the offer down. Last preware offer came from Spain who wanted to exchange Espana class dreadnought for coal and steel but the Polish government didn't want to help in any way left-wing government of Spain and didn't show any interest. During WW2 the was a serious plan to man the french BB Paris but it was later dropped because of shortage of man needed for smaller vessels (DD, SS).

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For me it is possible to create Polish tree. And arguments like: "you do not have enought ships", will not convice me. There is Chinese tree, where is a lot of non chinese tanks. At start there were also trees where you could't see any arty or tank destroyers, but it still wasn't problem for WG team to create one. For example M3 Lee is in tank tree not tank destroyers and you develop from it to a M4 Sherman... In Japan tree i didn't see any arty or TD as well for a long time. In WoWs in Japan Crousiers tree as i saw, you do not have tier 5. So it's not problem as well. For me if there will be no Polish tree, I will recieve it as "no, because no", not because the can't. They can, but why are they not doing it? I dunno... 

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For me it is possible to create Polish tree. And arguments like: "you do not have enought ships", will not convice me. There is Chinese tree, where is a lot of non chinese tanks. At start there were also trees where you could't see any arty or tank destroyers, but it still wasn't problem for WG team to create one. For example M3 Lee is in tank tree not tank destroyers and you develop from it to a M4 Sherman... In Japan tree i didn't see any arty or TD as well for a long time. In WoWs in Japan Crousiers tree as i saw, you do not have tier 5. So it's not problem as well. For me if there will be no Polish tree, I will recieve it as "no, because no", not because the can't. They can, but why are they not doing it? I dunno... 

 

Except there aren't enough ships.

There are 5 Tanks not built by the Chinese in their tree. There are plenty of designs that were made in China.

The M3 Lee was a medium tank, not a tank destroyer.

The M3 Lee was developed into the M4 Sherman, as a result of experience gained from the combat use of the Lee (by the British)

That is due to difficulties in finding detailed information rather than a chronic lack of designs.

The tier 5 hole in the Japanese cruiser line is because Furutaka hasn't been modelled yet. It is coming, however.

So the answer to why not, is because there isn't enough ships.

 

On the bright side, it is likely that there will be Polish ships as premiums (or British ships lent to the Poles with decal options) in the game in the future.

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Polish navy was equiped with miner OORP Jasółka,czajka, żuraw, mewa, rybitwa,czapla. the polish navy have 5 submarins OORP Sęp,Orzeł,Żbik, Ryś,Wilk.

First to were built in netherlands and rest of them in france. Polish cost was securited by 4 152 mm guns on hel penisula. On wisła and prypeć river. monitors were armed in 3 100 mm howitzer or in 2 75 mmm guns and 1 100mm howitzer.

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For me it is possible to create Polish tree. And arguments like: "you do not have enought ships", will not convice me. There is Chinese tree, where is a lot of non chinese tanks. At start there were also trees where you could't see any arty or tank destroyers, but it still wasn't problem for WG team to create one. For example M3 Lee is in tank tree not tank destroyers and you develop from it to a M4 Sherman... In Japan tree i didn't see any arty or TD as well for a long time. In WoWs in Japan Crousiers tree as i saw, you do not have tier 5. So it's not problem as well. For me if there will be no Polish tree, I will recieve it as "no, because no", not because the can't. They can, but why are they not doing it? I dunno... 

 

 

Except there aren't enough ships.

There are 5 Tanks not built by the Chinese in their tree. There are plenty of designs that were made in China.

The M3 Lee was a medium tank, not a tank destroyer.

The M3 Lee was developed into the M4 Sherman, as a result of experience gained from the combat use of the Lee (by the British)

That is due to difficulties in finding detailed information rather than a chronic lack of designs.

The tier 5 hole in the Japanese cruiser line is because Furutaka hasn't been modelled yet. It is coming, however.

So the answer to why not, is because there isn't enough ships.

 

On the bright side, it is likely that there will be Polish ships as premiums (or British ships lent to the Poles with decal options) in the game in the future.

 

I must agree with mr3awsome; there aren't enough ships for a full tree, unfortunately. So at most Poland will have its place in a minor tree.
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