T7 RN Premium Cruiser Belfast: Overpowered.

[Pupu_prpr]

My take on the new RN cruiser.

 

 

 

If this ship is released in its current state to the live version of the game then it has my absolute seal of recommendation. No weaknesses, multiple great strengths, this ship is a credit and XP monster. I don't easily call a ship overpowered, but it's hard to find any other way to describe it.

[mtm78]

It's to make for all those people QQing about Warspite being 'so bad' it should be tier 5

 

Been looking out for this one, should be a blast I recon

 

edit: wonder when she'll make an appearance in the premium shop..

[VScratch87]

Somehow I suspected -.-

[Aotearas]

 

 

InB4 people start complaining about the 13mm bow/aft armour and getting wrecked by heavy cruiser 200+mm and WG decides to buff the values to 16mm

[Hanszeehock]

Belfast is still very situational. I think many 'average' players will have to work hard to do well in her, as she gets deleted very easily. You have to keep a close eye on your smoke timer and the minimap. Also premium smoke is absolutely essential. It's a must buy for me in any case.

[Comrad_StaIin]

Belfast is still very situational. I think many 'average' players will have to work hard to do well in her, as she gets deleted very easily. You have to keep a close eye on your smoke timer and the minimap. Also premium smoke is absolutely essential. It's a must buy for me in any case.

 

yes thats true but if a somewhat compotent player drives her she is gun b redicoules even more so than already redicoules Atago and Kutuzov

 

but still not quit a Nikolai ore gremy but close

[piritskenyer]

Finally a new Flamu review I don't disagree with (the other one being Atago )

[mike_864]

Must have... when?

 

[Gerudan]

After a number of decent patches this game is really about to jump the shark. Who came up with this stupid combination of tools and thought it a reasonable thing to put into game? 

 

Ships like this or the Flint just shouldn't exist. Specially with their weird policy to never change premium ships, excluding them from any further balancing. 

[Takeda92]

Inb4 people complain and demand this ship to get its irl torpedo launchers because it's not OP enough..

[piritskenyer]

After a number of decent patches this game is really about to jump the shark. Who came up with this stupid combination of tools and thought it a reasonable thing to put into game? 

 

Ships like this or the Flint just shouldn't exist. Specially with their weird policy to never change premium ships, excluding them from any further balancing. 

 

Are your most played classes DD's and BB's? 

[Gerudan]

 

Are your most played classes DD's and BB's? 

 

By now they might be, but I also played through the IJN cruiser line. 

 

It is just that my premiums are DDs and BBs. It also doesn't change the fact, that such a ship is just silly and shouldn't be in the game. It has literally no weakness. 

[piritskenyer]

 

By now they might be, but I also played through the IJN cruiser line. 

 

It is just that my premiums are DDs and BBs. It also doesn't change the fact, that such a ship is just silly and shouldn't be in the game. It has literally no weakness. 

 

Apart from being a CL to begin with.

[Takeda92]

 

Apart from being a CL to begin with.

 

All the weaknesses of a CL is fixed with this ship though..

 

and cruisers are not weak at mid tiers, its at tier 8 where they start to struggle.

[KaraMon]

And there is one thing to make it less OP

 

Put smoke and radar in same slot so you chave to choose to be dd hunter or to have protection from other ships

[piritskenyer]

 

All the weaknesses of a CL is fixed with this ship though..

 

and cruisers are not weak at mid tiers, its at tier 8 where they start to struggle.

 

The second part is true, sorry, I was being cynical. I think Belfast will be strong. Depending on the player, she'll be varying from okay to vastly overpowered, and I think she'll be pulled from sale much like the Gremlin was. 

 

That said, I am glad to see a good, or even excellent high-mid tier cruiser, since as I mentioned somewhere already, cruisers are "my" class, and I wanted to see some love given to them. I don't think the 5th slot was necessary (in fact that was a surprise to me), it makes the ship be miles ahead of any other ship of her type on her tier (or the next, because she tops every CA/CL on her MM spread in concealment).

 

That said, if she was to go out on sale today in this state, I'd fork out the money and pray they rather pull her from sale like the Gremlin rather than change her.

[Takeda92]

Playing ship with weaknesses is part of the fun. Yesterday I played a game on PTS with Mogami (203mm) and I pretty much carried the game yet finished with a couple of hundred HP left, last player on the team. I used the ship's strengths, and had to work around to minimize my weakness, constantly dodging and using my concealment, or taking risks. I don't get games like that very often because I can't make the ship work always like that.

 

This ship on the other doesn't seem like it has to work hard to achieve above average statistics compared to other cruisers. I've seen iChase's video and by luck he just ran into all 5 of the enemies DDs on that side of the map and he destroyer all of them so fast and with nothing they could do, and that was a monster game. You could just use smoke + radar/hydro combo and shoot from there or you could invisifire. No cruiser can ever counter you because all you have to do is not fire and let your concealment work. All these are easy-way-out to play the game, there's no risk taking in this ship. They are not challenging, these are tools for the seal clubbers. 

 

What's ironic is, Belfast is given tier 8 slot to get modules to increase its survivability against BBs, it gets smoke so the ship can bail out in case it was in danger. Meanwhile, it gets radar and hydro so its prey, DDs, has no chance to get out if they ran into you

[xXx_Blogis_xXx]

nice vid , but its only vs t7 , and u play as top tier , what about when u bottom tier we need see how it perform

[Smeggo]

[...] Specially with their weird policy to never change premium ships, excluding them from any further balancing. 

 

They can reduce premium-ship income and XP reward into bottom... Hello Saipan. 

[Takeda92]

 

They can reduce premium-ship income and XP reward into bottom... Hello Saipan. 

 

Didn't they fix that in 0.5.12.1?

[Hanszeehock]

nice vid , but its only vs t7 , and u play as top tier , what about when u bottom tier we need see how it perform

 

Well I think Flamu addressed that point. With the current MM and the +1 for lower tiers, T7 gets very favourable match making and most of the time is top tier.

[Capra76]

 

Well I think Flamu addressed that point. With the current MM and the +1 for lower tiers, T7 gets very favourable match making and most of the time is top tier.

 

Think he also says at one point that it's murderous against T9 ships.

 

I'd be interested to know how close this ship is to the regular RN line (not that you can tell me obviously).

[T_H_0_R]

Bloody Hell, that concealment at least has to go. This is brokenly OP, I agree with Flamu. And HP poll, the second highest of all T7 CAs? Seriously?

 

Nice and down to the point review. Thanks.

[Hanszeehock]

 

Think he also says at one point that it's murderous against T9 ships.

 

I'd be interested to know how close this ship is to the regular RN line (not that you can tell me obviously).

 

I wish I could, but we are still testing 

 

[Hateshinaku]

Belfast is still very situational. I think many 'average' players will have to work hard to do well in her, as she gets deleted very easily. You have to keep a close eye on your smoke timer and the minimap. Also premium smoke is absolutely essential. It's a must buy for me in any case.

 

Every CL get´s deleted easily >_>