[CAIN] G01ngToxicCommand0 Beta Tester 2,177 posts 23,318 battles Report post #1 Posted October 14, 2016 I know that it might seem slightly masochistic but I am actually really looking forward to the release of the Royal Navy CL tree not because I think that they will bring some gamechanging playstyle or mechanics or because it is the Royal Navy but primarily because I love how they look and I enjoy the challenge of playing cruisers though I do suspect, based on my ingame experience facing enemy RN CLs, that they will eat citadels like a pro Anyway I hope they will be as pleasent to play as they look 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MEN] Captain_Singleton Players 3,184 posts 20,102 battles Report post #2 Posted October 14, 2016 well there seems to be two views on the forum, those who are british want the RN - who had the largest navy in the world during the first and second world wars, and then there are those who think what all the fuss is about... i'm in the first camp, it's hard to imagine a warship game based on ships from between those two wars without the RN, so yes i'm looking forward to them too... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Tyke Players 456 posts 10,463 battles Report post #3 Posted October 14, 2016 Being the 'home nation' so to speak I cannot wait for their arrival. I cannot play cruisers to save my life, but that is all I will play once they arrive. I have two 14 point captains waiting. And no doubt I will pay over the odds for the Belfast when she hoves into view. Saw one IG two days ago. Amazing. And using smoke too. I thought they had decided against that?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P0RT] Admiral_H_Nelson Players 3,938 posts 23,206 battles Report post #4 Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) In answer to your question: "Am I the only one looking forward to the RN cruisers?" - No, of course not. I suspect that you are actually in the majority. I am no longer looking forward to the regular line (Though HMS Belfast could be very promising). The fact that we are now apparently on the fourth version, after three previous unsuccessful attempts, and that this one has "magic" AP to justify the lack of HE ammunition fills me with no confidence at all. (No HE in a cruiser, Fur Fox Ache ) I am disillusioned with the lengths that WG are going to, so that they can get every line to be so "unique"! It makes me wonder what extremes they will go to for French/Italian cruisers when they eventually appear. Cruisers as tanky as BB's, perhaps, 60 kt speed cruisers? If the RN cruisers turn out like they seem to be heading then they can stick them where the sun don't shine, TBH. I'll stick to my Russian cruisers instead. Edited October 14, 2016 by Admiral_H_Nelson 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLOBS] StuntMan0369 Beta Tester 923 posts 4,848 battles Report post #5 Posted October 14, 2016 Well, as a Brit, of course I'm excited for them even if it's just for the model of them. I can see why some people would be sick of hearing about them (I mean, how many threads have we had over the past year or so?). I try not to get too opinionated when it comes to their gameplay, but I still raise questions to myself about them. Of course, they're not live yet, so judgement on them is to be taken with an ocean of salt. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #6 Posted October 14, 2016 I am curious about them, but I do not like the change of mechanics. Mechanics should stay the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #7 Posted October 14, 2016 The fact that we are now apparently on the fourth version, after three previous unsuccessful attempts Are we on a 4th version? I know they've tweaked some of the stats but that looks like part of the normal balancing process that every line goes through rather than the fundamental re-work that versions 1 & 2 got. The key question I think will be if the AP can do sufficient damage against well angled BB to make up for the loss of HE and their apparent squishyness, if they can get reliable penetration against bow on BB then maybe, if it's just going to be world of ricochet then they'll be next to useless in the BB heavy meta. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLOBS] StuntMan0369 Beta Tester 923 posts 4,848 battles Report post #8 Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) Are we on a 4th version? I know they've tweaked some of the stats but that looks like part of the normal balancing process that every line goes through rather than the fundamental re-work that versions 1 & 2 got. The key question I think will be if the AP can do sufficient damage against well angled BB to make up for the loss of HE and their apparent squishyness, if they can get reliable penetration against bow on BB then maybe, if it's just going to be world of ricochet then they'll be next to useless in the BB heavy meta. Well, I'm assuming he's referring to my video series which has entitled the latest version as 'Round 4'. To summarise; Round 1 - Initial stats, line of Flints Round 2 - No smoke, Speed Boost, AP only, mega burst heal (15k in 5 secs) Round 3 - Single burst larger smoke cloud, change to AP performance, 3rd type of heal (faster than BB, but shorter) Round 4 - Smoke changed to dual burst, buff to AP performance and Minotaur reload Technically this is still the second version, since it's still a focus on AP performance, where-as initial was HE spammers. Then again, none of this is 'official', so I wont drag this discussion on longer than it needs. Edited October 14, 2016 by StuntMan0369 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Loran_Battle Beta Tester 1,245 posts Report post #9 Posted October 14, 2016 I'm looking forward to any new line to be honest. And I think most players can't wait to get their hands on the RN CL line. But as Adm. Nelson said above: I am also concerned about how WG is going to make every line completely different. It seems like someone got his in their head and they are just going to any lengths, including completely going against established gameplay mechanics, to make every line "different". Don't get me wrong. I do think every line should have some flavour. But it does not have to be extreme... If we include italian and french navies we will have 7x3 lines (BB, DD, CL/CA). And that can easily increase. I do not see how they can basically invent even 5+ extra "special" consumables or gameplay mechanics. Either it all becomes completely confusing or they basically break the game... Looking forward to the RN? Yes... But definately concerned as well... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,951 battles Report post #10 Posted October 14, 2016 I've been brought back to this game because of the prospect of a proper Royal Navy presence in the game. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warspite666 ∞ Beta Tester 172 posts 5,971 battles Report post #11 Posted October 14, 2016 Just looking forward to seeing the models, for all the controversy regarding this line and the protracted developement of the game mechanics, I dont think anyone can fault the care lavished on the graphic elements of the game, whether the ships play well, that pretty much seems to be in the lap of the gods, but it will be fun finding out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frostilicus Beta Tester 28 posts Report post #12 Posted October 14, 2016 I've been brought back to this game because of the prospect of a proper Royal Navy presence in the game. Same here, understand why we got US and IJN first, but I'm only back in game now as the RN release seems to be "soon" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FIFO] ilhilh [FIFO] Beta Tester 2,451 posts 7,514 battles Report post #13 Posted October 14, 2016 I sort of am... all I want is for them to be competitive - and by that I mean competitive in relation to the other cruisers (everyone is well aware of the issues with cruisers in general!). I still don't know how they will play which does make me slightly apprehensive but I have no problems adapting to a different play style in order to get the most out of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONI] MoveZig Players 1,622 posts 20,823 battles Report post #14 Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) I really don't know because I no longer know what to expect. One day they're supposed to be sneaky smoke-projecting buggers, the next there's talk of AP specialization and repair ability. I do like some survivability on my cruisers, so if Brits get crap armor and not the rumored repair consumable, I'll probably steer clear. As for national flavor, I don't care much. Doesn't really matter what flag is on it, or what camo, if I don't feel the characteristics of the ship's gameplay suit me. Edited October 14, 2016 by MoveZig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEA] ItachiZero Beta Tester 462 posts 11,979 battles Report post #15 Posted October 14, 2016 hint Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VScratch87 Players 67 posts Report post #16 Posted October 14, 2016 I don't care. I just want the Neptune. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2ndaryBattleTank Beta Tester 99 posts 2,541 battles Report post #17 Posted October 14, 2016 Yes, because the RN should have been in the game long ago. No, because 5 BBs per side are standard these days and 152 mm guns have been nerfed to virtual uselessness against those. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinC Quality Poster 1,695 posts 9,500 battles Report post #18 Posted October 14, 2016 Of course not, and it is also certainly not the case that only British people are looking forward to the RN. Without the RN, what adversary does the Kriegsmarine have? The Soviet Navy? Well, no, because its commanders were either shot or sent to the Gulag, and hardly any new ship has been built for it, plus its ships are icebound most of the year anyway, and even in the best of circumstances would have to deal with the Luftwaffe as well. No, with all due respect for the tremendous losses endured during World War Two, although largely at least partially self-inflicted, the USSR contributed relatively little to the war at sea. No doubt, they fought like lions wherever they could, naval infantry especially so, but that is about it. The French and Italian navies were both mostly concerned with the Mediterranean, and would have had to fight their way either past Gibraltar or Suez, which the RN successfully guarded during the entire war. The RN was also present in all theatres of the war, often in force, sometimes (almost) entirely alone. Ships like Blyskawica fought gallantly, but, like the Royal Dutch and Norwegian Navies, alongside the RN. The USN was mostly concerned with the Pacific, once it finally officially joined the war. So from a historical perspective, clearly, the RN is a big deal and deserves its place in this game. This is the first cruiser line I am actually looking forward to, and I hope they manage to balance things toot sweet, in a way that will be both unique and playable. HMS Belfast especially can not come soon enough! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P0RT] Admiral_H_Nelson Players 3,938 posts 23,206 battles Report post #19 Posted October 14, 2016 I don't care. I just want the Neptune. Well you might want NEPTUNE.... ...but by JUPITER! I don't know what on EARTH Wargaming are thinking off with these RN cruisers, but they have SATURN this project for too long, and their ideas MARS the game for me. They ruined the project because they did not PLANET properly. I'm so fed up with the idea that my message to WG is "Stick them up URANUS" err...... I'll get my coat. It's OK. I know my own way out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #20 Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) Extra credits/gold/freexp will be a lifeSAVEr. I am gonna freeXp all of THEm. I know, I know Im such a PLUTOcrat. Edited October 14, 2016 by nambr9 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] BadGene616 Beta Tester 773 posts 8,197 battles Report post #21 Posted October 14, 2016 I know there have been lots of anticipation and leaks and opinions flying around... But I'll wait until they are released to judge them. They could be great, they could be awful. They could totally suit my playstyle or not, the meta or not. Getting overly bothered about pixelships that aren't even released yet, it's a waste of effort. Regardless if they are good or bad, here is what will happen: 1) pretty much everyone will try them. There will be cruiser spam of the greatest order in lower tiers. (Similar to when German BBs were released). 2) Some people will think they are OP. Some people will think they are awful. THis will depend on how people adapt their playstyle to the new ships. 3) There will be lots of whining and calls to nerf/buff them. 4) BB players will enjoy the nom nom citadels, they are cruisers afterall. 5) Powercreep - perceived or otherwise - will call for rebalance of older lines. 6) Once most people have got the grind to t6 or t7, there will be... a lack of cruisers at t7+ STILL. Because, it's still a BB OP meta. 7) RN cruisers will be quietly nerfed because they managed to kill a BB, once. ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jadefalken Beta Tester, Players 751 posts 10,893 battles Report post #22 Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) I'm glad when they release the RN... a lot of people have been waiting patiently and deserve a decent well improvised class and fleet of ship ;) But for the impatient spam new threads about RN everyday... I wish for every new thread they would delay it another 6 months. I think the upcoming Belfast will be a great addition to RN ports... and I'm looking forward to meeting them on the high seas Just hope they make the Cruisers special for you guys and most of all fun for you to play Edited October 14, 2016 by Ivanovich_Rudakov 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueMoon51 Beta Tester 951 posts Report post #23 Posted October 14, 2016 I'm looking forward to them although still pretty concerned about how they will work within the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinC Quality Poster 1,695 posts 9,500 battles Report post #24 Posted October 15, 2016 I think the upcoming Belfast will be a great addition to RN ports... Do want. Scapa Flow, Portsmouth, the Firth.. Yep, do want.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superbabs84321eu Beta Tester 24 posts 4,173 battles Report post #25 Posted October 15, 2016 I am looking forward to them as well. Just to look at them in port, cause cruisers are underpowered at the moment. They die way to fist. I was a cruiser main, but switched to DDs and BBs cause frankly, it is not fun to die in just 2, 3 hits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites