HMS Belfast naval legend

[piet11111]

 

Needless to say i did not click the article but the prem store first but alas its not there yet.

Bit of a tease from wargamings side

[T0byJug]

 

 

Needless to say i did not click the article but the prem store first but alas its not there yet.

Bit of a tease from wargamings side

Thanks for saving me the anticipation and disappointment!! lets hope it means she is about to arrive

[anonym_MfZ6T7iwWpUC]

Just got home and seen this, was about to jump into the store to buy it. Dam them.

[piet11111]

Thanks for saving me the anticipation and disappointment!! lets hope it means she is about to arrive

 

Well it cant be long now since the tech tree went from soon and everything hidden to get in prem store and showing the statistics since a while.

[Hedgehog1963]

Jingles said it was coming very soon in his video released today.

 

Meanwhile have you seen this in the filter in port?

 

 

I'm expecting RCN, RAN and RNZN stuff soon as well.

[Aotearas]

 

I'm expecting RCN, RAN and RNZN stuff soon as well.

 

Well, the HMAS Perth will arrive soon as a tier VI premium CL in the Commonwealth branch. Though I'm a bit miffed at the implications that we can't use those ships as crew trainers for the upcoming RN ships unless they somehow make an exception and allow Commonwealth/RN captains to serve on the other line respectively. And I don't think we can expect a regular line of ships for the Commonwealth techtree, so much like the Blyskawica their utility as crewtrainers would be exactly zero ...

 

And I wonder exactly how the Belfast will fit with the regular RN CL line in terms of captain compatibility (I'd definately go for Demolition Expert since the without Defensive AA there's little point in AFT and the other tier IV captain skills are meh, but if the regular CL end up not getting HE shells then that'd be a wasted skill for every RN ship that isn't the Belfast!). What's the latest news on here, does she still have smoke or is it Radar now?

[Hedgehog1963]

 

Well, the HMAS Perth will arrive soon as a tier VI premium CL in the Commonwealth branch. Though I'm a bit miffed at the implications that we can't use those ships as crew trainers for the upcoming RN ships unless they somehow make an exception and allow Commonwealth/RN captains to serve on the other line respectively. And I don't think we can expect a regular line of ships for the Commonwealth techtree, so much like the Blyskawica their utility as crewtrainers would be exactly zero ...

 

And I wonder exactly how the Belfast will fit with the regular RN CL line in terms of captain compatibility (I'd definately go for Demolition Expert since the without Defensive AA there's little point in AFT and the other tier IV captain skills are meh, but if the regular CL end up not getting HE shells then that'd be a wasted skill for every RN ship that isn't the Belfast!). What's the latest news on here, does she still have smoke or is it Radar now?

 

Video (which isn't bad BTW) reminded me she had Hydroacoustic search.

 

I can't see how they can release Belfast while not having decided how to impliment the other Rn cruisers.

[warsinger2]

If I was WG EU would offer Belfast in 2 packages 99.95 £ with prem time,  gold and flags and 149.95 £ with even more gold, prem time and flags. 

[havaduck]

Thanks for saving me the anticipation and disappointment!! lets hope it means she is about to arrive

 

 

Well it cant be long now since the tech tree went from soon and everything hidden to get in prem store and showing the statistics since a while.

 

 

You guys mean like König Albert?

 

Honestly dont bother if its not even on sale on NA.

 

 

 

 

 

.... inb4 a mob of people again begging to be able to throw money at WG, while being played for a fool, like WG EU usually does:

 

[Kashuken]

I could see HMS Belfast being released early.

 

The ship itself should be finished but the RN cruiser line as we all know is not but the ship is a premium and is different to the line to a point if we take the stat leaks at face value.

[SerPurr]

Interesting vid. Bit odd they show the 3D model of Edinburg class but I suppose with the total mess the RN CA line is going to be, one shouldn't be too picky nowadays. After all it's the generic idea that counts. Whether a ship actually has the armament, looks and details of what's being advertised is totally insignificant 

 

[Trainspite]

Interesting vid. Bit odd they show the 3D model of Edinburg class but I suppose with the total mess the RN CA line is going to be, one shouldn't be too picky nowadays. After all it's the generic idea that counts. Whether a ship actually has the armament, looks and details of what's being advertised is totally insignificant 

 

That is Belfast though (Well, maybe the model for Edinburgh, but close enough to Belfast). As she appeared in 1942. How she is in game is how she looked during the Korean War, where she received another refit. They could have included her Korean war service in the video as well... and a little more on the North Cape, but oh well.

 

It's not exactly advertising Belfast for premium, that would be the armada series, this is more historical based.

[SerPurr]

How she is in game is how she looked during the Korean War, where she received another refit. They could have included her Korean war service in the video as well... and a little more on the North Cape, but oh well.

 

It's not exactly advertising Belfast for premium, that would be the armada series, this is more historical based.

 

Yeah, makes perfect sense to opt for that configuration since we all know how overrated torps on a CA are. The Armada version can be dealt with swiftly btw. 'Hi guys, here's Belfast. Historically this cruiser took part in the sinking of the Scharnhorst. In game this will be a another useless Tier VII cruiser with which you can either choose to be A) Obliterated by a Scharnhorst or B) get one shotted by everyone else. Enjoy!'

 

[Trainspite]

 

Yeah, makes perfect sense to opt for that configuration since we all know how overrated torps on a CA are. The Armada version can be dealt with swiftly btw. 'Hi guys, here's Belfast. Historically this cruiser took part in the sinking of the Scharnhorst. In game this will be a another useless Tier VII cruiser with which you can either choose to be A) Obliterated by a Scharnhorst or B) get one shotted by everyone else. Enjoy!'

 

 

I think the bigger factor was that Belfast exists with her fairly distinct bridge on the Thames, and since that is the Belfast that is known, that is the Belfast they get. I predicted Belfast as a tier 8 premium in her North Cape condition, but I guess that will have to be represented by the Steady Eddie. 

[bushwacker001]

Playing on the NA server earlier this evening, saw a Belfast for the first time on the enemy team....it looked good but didn't last long as the idiot in charge of it suicided into a cap circle with a DD and 3 battleships turning it into a wreck.

[Ferry_25]

All respect to the royal Airforce and groundforce. But tell me: what where the actual glorious moments/ battles of the RN? I have an open mind in this matter but I can't find anything. Sinking Bismarck? That was due to the brilliant airstrike which jammed her rudder. Still took 20 or 30 ships??? to sink her. Oh, the glorious sinking of the French fleet! While laying still in port... What is the supposed "big role" of the RN in history anyway? Please tell me. Because I cannot think of anything. I cannot remember seeing 1 glorious naval action in history from the RN. Other than troop transports and good carriers (which are floating airbases for that matter). Could somebody enlighten me what IS the fuss about the RN ingame? Especially the British players: please convince me why the RN presence is so much needed while there is not 1 Dutch ship (Michiel de Ruyter, towing the RN flagship from the River Thames) in this game???

 

Edit: Belfast is a city in Ireland, is it not?

[bushwacker001]

All respect to the royal Airforce and groundforce. But tell me: what where the actual glorious moments/ battles of the RN? I have an open mind in this matter but I can't find anything. Sinking Bismarck? That was due to the brilliant airstrike which jammed her rudder. Still took 20 or 30 ships??? to sink her. Oh, the glorious sinking of the French fleet! While laying still in port... What is the supposed "big role" of the RN in history anyway? Please tell me. Because I cannot think of anything. I cannot remember seeing 1 glorious naval action in history from the RN. Other than troop transports and good carriers (which are floating airbases for that matter). Could somebody enlighten me what IS the fuss about the RN ingame? Especially the British players: please convince me why the RN presence is so much needed while there is not 1 Dutch ship (Michiel de Ruyter, towing the RN flagship from the River Thames) in this game???

 

Edit: Belfast is a city in Ireland, is it not?

 

  so it's bad to defeat a French navy when they are in port but glorious to steal and tow away a British ship from a port with no one on board?  

[DavidPym]

i really really hope they remove that union jack off B turret from the ingame model it looks so bad.

[Nechrom]

All respect to the royal Airforce and groundforce. But tell me: what where the actual glorious moments/ battles of the RN? I have an open mind in this matter but I can't find anything. Sinking Bismarck? That was due to the brilliant airstrike which jammed her rudder. Still took 20 or 30 ships??? to sink her. Oh, the glorious sinking of the French fleet! While laying still in port... What is the supposed "big role" of the RN in history anyway? Please tell me. Because I cannot think of anything. I cannot remember seeing 1 glorious naval action in history from the RN. Other than troop transports and good carriers (which are floating airbases for that matter). Could somebody enlighten me what IS the fuss about the RN ingame? Especially the British players: please convince me why the RN presence is so much needed while there is not 1 Dutch ship (Michiel de Ruyter, towing the RN flagship from the River Thames) in this game???

 

Edit: Belfast is a city in Ireland, is it not?

 

I think it's a lot of holdover from a strong naval tradition over a long long time combined with a nation/empire relying on that navy over an equally long time.

 

WWII clearly wasn't the RN glory days.

[DavidPym]

All respect to the royal Airforce and groundforce. But tell me: what where the actual glorious moments/ battles of the RN? I have an open mind in this matter but I can't find anything. Sinking Bismarck? That was due to the brilliant airstrike which jammed her rudder. Still took 20 or 30 ships??? to sink her. Oh, the glorious sinking of the French fleet! While laying still in port... What is the supposed "big role" of the RN in history anyway? Please tell me. Because I cannot think of anything. I cannot remember seeing 1 glorious naval action in history from the RN. Other than troop transports and good carriers (which are floating airbases for that matter). Could somebody enlighten me what IS the fuss about the RN ingame? Especially the British players: please convince me why the RN presence is so much needed while there is not 1 Dutch ship (Michiel de Ruyter, towing the RN flagship from the River Thames) in this game???

 

Edit: Belfast is a city in Ireland, is it not?

 

​Its a city in Northern Ireland which is part of the United Kingdom.

[Trainspite]

All respect to the royal Airforce and groundforce. But tell me: what where the actual glorious moments/ battles of the RN? I have an open mind in this matter but I can't find anything. Sinking Bismarck? That was due to the brilliant airstrike which jammed her rudder. Still took 20 or 30 ships??? to sink her. Oh, the glorious sinking of the French fleet! While laying still in port... What is the supposed "big role" of the RN in history anyway? Please tell me. Because I cannot think of anything. I cannot remember seeing 1 glorious naval action in history from the RN. Other than troop transports and good carriers (which are floating airbases for that matter). Could somebody enlighten me what IS the fuss about the RN ingame? Especially the British players: please convince me why the RN presence is so much needed while there is not 1 Dutch ship (Michiel de Ruyter, towing the RN flagship from the River Thames) in this game???

 

Edit: Belfast is a city in Ireland, is it not?

 

What where the glorious moments of the other navies then? The RN has plenty of good moments in WW2, but I think you are one of those people with a disdain for them anyway. 

Maybe something about the RN being the biggest navy in the games timeframe, until 1944 when the USN finally overtook the RN. 

 

In the games timeframe, the Dutch navy wasn't exactly much I'm afraid. A mere shadow, and not a major player at all. We are not covering the 1770s and 1780s here remember. 

 

i really really hope they remove that union jack off B turret from the ingame model it looks so bad.

 

Korean war configuration.

 

 

​Its a city in Northern Ireland which is part of the United Kingdom.

 

The Capital no less.

[SerPurr]

All respect to the royal Airforce and groundforce. But tell me: what where the actual glorious moments/ battles of the RN? I have an open mind in this matter but I can't find anything. Sinking Bismarck? That was due to the brilliant airstrike which jammed her rudder. Still took 20 or 30 ships??? to sink her. Oh, the glorious sinking of the French fleet! While laying still in port... What is the supposed "big role" of the RN in history anyway? Please tell me. Because I cannot think of anything. I cannot remember seeing 1 glorious naval action in history from the RN. Other than troop transports and good carriers (which are floating airbases for that matter). Could somebody enlighten me what IS the fuss about the RN ingame? Especially the British players: please convince me why the RN presence is so much needed while there is not 1 Dutch ship (Michiel de Ruyter, towing the RN flagship from the River Thames) in this game???

 

Edit: Belfast is a city in Ireland, is it not?

 

Well, first of all, most of the British ships look absolutely gorgeous :-) Just look at Edinburgh and compare that to the New Orleans. One is sexy as a vamp, the other looks like a bunch of shanty shags tied with ropes to a hull.

The RN has of course made a HUGE difference. Are you serious on their achievements? That list is LONG! Sure, there might not be such dramatic events as occurred in the Pacific but still, nothing too shabby either.

Rio Plate, Narvik, Taranto, Convoy escorts, Dunkerque, Malta, Crete, Multiple actions in the Mediterranean, Atlantic, North Sea etc. etc. etc. Losses suffered were huge in some cases. Just imagine what would have happened if the RN wouldn't have been able to sustain those. The outcome of the war in Europe might very well have been very different. As you know I'm Dutch myself. As much as I'd like a Dutch ship (or 2) in the game, comparing our navy to anything but that of a third league nation in World War II is just beyond reality unfortunately. As much as we've had our glorious days in the past long gone, our part in WWII was rather insignificant.We did what we could with the ships at hand but if they had not been there at all, it hardly would have made a difference. 

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

The Capital no less.

 

 

And a great shipbuilding city, which produced such ships as ...... HMS Belfast! 

[Combat_Hamster]

 

Well, first of all, most of the British ships look absolutely gorgeous :-) Just look at Edinburgh and compare that to the New Orleans. One is sexy as a vamp, the other looks like a bunch of shanty shags tied with ropes to a hull.

The RN has of course made a HUGE difference. Are you serious on their achievements? That list is LONG! Sure, there might not be such dramatic events as occurred in the Pacific but still, nothing too shabby either.

Rio Plate, Narvik, Taranto, Convoy escorts, Dunkerque, Malta, Crete, Multiple actions in the Mediterranean, Atlantic, North Sea etc. etc. etc. Losses suffered were huge in some cases. Just imagine what would have happened if the RN wouldn't have been able to sustain those. The outcome of the war in Europe might very well have been very different. As you know I'm Dutch myself. As much as I'd like a Dutch ship (or 2) in the game, comparing our navy to anything but that of a third league nation in World War II is just beyond reality unfortunately. As much as we've had our glorious days in the past long gone, our part in WWII was rather insignificant.We did what we could with the ships at hand but if they had not been there at all, it hardly would have made a difference. 

I  am a  Brit  but would  never  sell the Dutch  short,  they  might  have been  short on ships  but  were long  on courage,  I had a  Dutch uncle  who was  at Rotterdam,  and stayed  and fought in the resistance.

[SerPurr]

I  am a  Brit  but would  never  sell the Dutch  short,  they  might  have been  short on ships  but  were long  on courage,  I had a  Dutch uncle  who was  at Rotterdam,  and stayed  and fought in the resistance.

 

Some of us were courageous indeed. Just like many people in most countries suffering from the war or occupation by the Nazis. The Netherlands suffered a great deal from the occupation. By the end of the war the country was stripped to the bone. Many able seamen found a watery grave. Unfortunately the majority of our countrymen turned either a significant blind eye or were flat out collaborating. This is often an overlooked aspect of our Kingdoms 'achievements' and still somewhat of a taboo subject but it's true nonetheless. Don't get me wrong, I love everything on every navy (including the Dutch :-)).