Favorite shipgirl (Kancolle,Azur lane, Arpeggio of blue steel,Haifuri)

[LOZFFVII]

On 10/30/2021 at 7:09 PM, Zemeritt said:

Algerie murdered my cubes during the first run of this event.

And it's continuing with Le Terrible:

5 Richies and an Algerie

 

This is beyond annoying, even for a gacha

Welp, yesterday I managed to get my first off-event SR (which was Warcorgi) and a second Algerie, before this morning finally acquiring VERY fast loli moving at incredible hihg speed.

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You know what the funniest thing about this image is?

I manually saved it as .jpg, without realising my editing software was saving it as .png.

So now it's filename is "VERYfastloli.jpg.png".

Probably took me about 100pulls in total, seeing as my cubes went from 800~ to 650.

I'm looking forward to using The Terrible One as a solo farmer in future, though, so I don't mind.

[Zemeritt]

2 hours ago, LOZFFVII said:

Welp, yesterday I managed to get my first off-event SR (which was Warcorgi) and a second Algerie, before this morning finally acquiring VERY fast loli moving at incredible hihg speed.

 

Got her today aswell. I might have spent around 160 cubes to get her.

As friendly as Azur Lane is with the drop rates: Reruns are very worse that the first runs.

[LOZFFVII]

1 hour ago, Zemeritt said:

Got her today aswell. I might have spent around 160 cubes to get her.

As friendly as Azur Lane is with the drop rates: Reruns are very worse that the first runs.

Congrats.

My personal feeling is that the real issue with reruns is the fact that we can wait so damn long to finally get one.

Take Aurora Noctis as an example:

• Originally run July 23rd to Aug 6th 2020.
• I'm still missing HMS Eagle.
  • While not a terribly important ship meta-wise, nor especially interesting to me design or character-wise, she's still a missing piece of my collection that I distinctly remember saying "screw it, I'lll get her on the rerun" with regards to whether I could be bothered to keep spending cubes on the event.
• Newer players (and unlucky players during the event) don't have Perseus, arguably the best healer in the game.
• Newer players don't have the 533mm Magnetic Torpedo design.
  • Although I have this gear, I certainly wouldn't mind a second.

Having said all that though, I just checked the dates and it turns out the original run for Skybound Oratorio was June 2020. So maybe I just need to be a bit more patient for a rerun.

 

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On the subject of RN events though...

Anyone else think the upcoming before-end-of-year UR event is going to be RN?

My gut is telling me it'll be Vanguard's event. (EDIT: or Lion)

I mean we haven't actually had a single RN event all year and we already know the remaining rerun is going to be the first NP event (Northern Overture)*, so...

 

*Okay, so, I'm fairly certain I read on twitter that the next rerun (after Oratorio) was going to be NP, but now that I try to find it again I can't find it; so take that with a grain of salt.

[Pururut]

10 hours ago, LOZFFVII said:

On the subject of RN events though...

Anyone else think the upcoming before-end-of-year UR event is going to be RN?

My gut is telling me it'll be Vanguard's event. (EDIT: or Lion)

The next UR ship is going be Alaska. We have two Japanese and one American UR ships at this point. They came in the order of aircraft carrier, battleship and destroyer so if we follow that order it is only natural for the next UR ship to be a cruiser. Sadly the only nation with cruisers capable of being ranked as UR is United States; Alaska, Worcester and Des Moines. There is also a rule for non-PR/collab ships; all of them participated or were at least built during or prior to WW2. That leaves Alaska as the sole candidate. Regarding Vanguard I am fairly certain that it will be added but probably next year. As for Lion I would wait for PR5. 

 

[Panocek]

1 hour ago, Pururut said:

There is also a rule for non-PR/collab ships; all of them participated or were at least built during or prior to WW2.

Zao/Senjo could be a thing too, after all, Manjuu already made their own "what-ifs" in shape of Suruga or Sov. Belorussiya, without help of Wargaming.

 

Kronshtadt/Stalingrad also fits in, though didn't Russians had their event already in this year? 

[LastButterfly]

On 10/30/2021 at 8:09 PM, Marblehead_1 said:

Paragraph 1 and 2 due to look, design

 

If you like the Halland class, I would recommand checking out Colombia's 20 de Julio. Amusingly, the best way they found to modify the original design was to add a third Bofor M50, so the class holds the interesting record of destroyer which fires the largest mass of shell per second on a broadside - equal, in average, to that of an Atlanta~ The dutch M4 radar also helps.

[WWDragon]

1 hour ago, Panocek said:

Zao/Senjo could be a thing too, after all, Manjuu already made their own "what-ifs" in shape of Suruga or Sov. Belorussiya, without help of Wargaming.

 

Kronshtadt/Stalingrad also fits in, though didn't Russians had their event already in this year? 

 

I think there is a difference were the Kii class was planned but with WNT it got cancelled as the Sovetsky Soyuz were being build until the invasion happened, there is also Aquila that was being converted/build and something like Zao that is the 1941 Type A cruiser were very little is know about outside the requirements.

 

I dont think they want to add another SE UR ship considering it would be the 3rd within the last 6 months and the problem with making a non "big 4" UR is ... well, a NP UR would naturally be viewed as a faction leader and that means faction buffs but its hard to get ships from then because they are banner or construction and my recent experiences with chessboard are ... lets say out of 60+ runs with x2 I got one Admiral Hipper so even archives would be a problem.

 

RN is the only one out of the big 3 without a natural UR, I find odd Bismarck isnt UR (maybe refit later?) but I dont think it will be Lion or the Royal Yacht because they still have at least the two Implacable, sure the poor EU only have one natural UR but they also have the largest fleet and I dont think they need one right now, they have a lot of good ships.

[Marblehead_1]

4 hours ago, LastButterfly said:

 

If you like the Halland class, I would recommand checking out Colombia's 20 de Julio. Amusingly, the best way they found to modify the original design was to add a third Bofor M50, so the class holds the interesting record of destroyer which fires the largest mass of shell per second on a broadside - equal, in average, to that of an Atlanta~ The dutch M4 radar also helps.

I know about them  and I really wait for them in WoWs. I only hope when WG introduce them they will not be tied to Research Bureau. Their basicly mine 

 

About UR's my guesses are as follows:

EU - rest of Iowas and giving of Midways could be too much

RN - Vanguard and Lion - here I didn't think remaining armored carriers could be UR

SE - Yamato class and I-400 class

IB - Type XXI submarine ( imagine submarine in game with some extra really broken skills and parametres ) Type XIV and Type Xb submarine ( imagine submarine variant of Akashi giving some ill boosts )

IL/VD - Colbert and/or De Grasse after completion, Jean Bart retrofit, 

Sardagena - Capitani Romani destroyer/light cruiser

NP - Stalingrad

[WolfGewehr]

Slightly late for the 81st

 

[LOZFFVII]

13 hours ago, Pururut said:

There is also a rule for non-PR/collab ships; all of them participated or were at least built during or prior to WW2. [...] As for Lion I would wait for PR5.

Lion was laid down prior to WW2, but never completed. There were plans to complete her as a hybrid BBV, but they never came to fruition and she was scrapped.

There is as much in common between her and the Sovetsky Soyuz-class as there is with Ibuki, while most of the rest of the PRs are either designs that never got off the table (Neptune/Gascogne) or WG's complete fiction (Roon/Champagne).

 

13 hours ago, Pururut said:

The next UR ship is going be Alaska. We have two Japanese and one American UR ships at this point. They came in the order of aircraft carrier, battleship and destroyer so if we follow that order it is only natural for the next UR ship to be a cruiser. Sadly the only nation with cruisers capable of being ranked as UR is United States; Alaska, Worcester and Des Moines. There is also a rule for non-PR/collab ships; all of them participated or were at least built during or prior to WW2. That leaves Alaska as the sole candidate.

I put it to you, that there is one RN cruiser class that can fit the bill:

Tiger-class.

Yes, they weren't commissioned until long after the war, but the RN in AL already have precendent for such a thing: Centaur.

I'm not saying it's garanteed or anything, I'm just saying that going an entire year without an RN event or rerun would seem a bit off from my perspective.

It would also be cool to see Minotaur get added in PR5 to complement Tiger, but we're getting into fantasy territory here.

 

...

Weird. Suddenly I'm getting deja vu.

Like we've had this conversation before.

 

6 hours ago, Marblehead_1 said:

About UR's my guesses are as follows:

EU - rest of Iowas and giving of Midways could be too much

You're forgetting about Gearing-, Worcester- and Des Moines-classes, too.

6 hours ago, Marblehead_1 said:

RN - Vanguard and Lion - here I didn't think remaining armored carriers could be UR

Could also have Daring- or Battle-classes.

6 hours ago, Marblehead_1 said:

SE - [...] and I-400 class

IB - Type XXI submarine ( imagine submarine in game with some extra really broken skills and parametres ) Type XIV and Type Xb submarine ( imagine submarine variant of Akashi giving some ill boosts )

You think we're going to get UR subs?

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[Pururut]

5 hours ago, LOZFFVII said:

I put it to you, that there is one RN cruiser class that can fit the bill:

Tiger-class.

I did check that out but as you said; it was commissioned post-WW2. Given its armament and sensors I guess it might make for an improved rapid firing version of San Diego. 

 

5 hours ago, LOZFFVII said:

Like we've had this conversation before.

Because we did... around the time prior to New Jerseys announcement I think. I really want the next UR to be Alaska... preferably a mixture of Minneapolis and Alabama both in looks and character.

[Marblehead_1]

8 hours ago, LOZFFVII said:

 

You're forgetting about Gearing-, Worcester- and Des Moines-classes, too.

Could also have Daring- or Battle-classes.

You think we're going to get UR subs?

 

I'm not sure did Deses and Worcesters could be too much for game. We have Allen M. Summer as SSR so I bet Gearing will follow this.

Daring - ok, I forget about them, Battle and Weapon class - IMO good for SSR

 

Why not SSR submarine? Type XXI fits good as cherry on top of submarine designing of such times. I-400 could had some special skills making from her "fourth" CV in battle which purely could justify her UR in game.

[WWDragon]

6 hours ago, Marblehead_1 said:

Why not SSR submarine?

Well because its a submarine, I dont remember they exist most of the time because they dont have that much impact on the game ... you cannot fight bosses with submarines unless they allow it for that specific boss, this naturally limits the appeal of a UR sub.

 

Also we have already a sub carrier in AL, I-13 and the difference of a Type AM and I-400 in terms of planes carried was I-400 could carry 3 instead of 2 ... granted that doesnt really matter but at the same time, there is no reason to think they would have that kind of capability.

[Marblehead_1]

5 hours ago, WWDragon said:

Well because its a submarine, I dont remember they exist most of the time because they dont have that much impact on the game ... you cannot fight bosses with submarines unless they allow it for that specific boss, this naturally limits the appeal of a UR sub.

 

Also we have already a sub carrier in AL, I-13 and the difference of a Type AM and I-400 in terms of planes carried was I-400 could carry 3 instead of 2 ... granted that doesnt really matter but at the same time, there is no reason to think they would have that kind of capability.

I think you didn't played higher difficulty maps where properly used submarine fleet can make real difference between losing and victory. Personally I have 3 subs lvl 125 ( and all others MLB-ed beyond U-96 and U-556 which I didn't have ) and they were real help on Ch13 and OpSi. Yes, their torpedoes are annoying to get at start but IMO they are really usefull class. Type XXI submarine was very advanced in their time so this class IMO has deserved for UR.

 

I didn't think that AL follows 100% strict to the historical accuracy when we have in example Noshiro as one of best ships in her class.

[LOZFFVII]

8 hours ago, WWDragon said:

Well because its a submarine, I dont remember they exist most of the time because they dont have that much impact on the game ... you cannot fight bosses with submarines unless they allow it for that specific boss, this naturally limits the appeal of a UR sub.

I can't wait until you play more late-game maps and in a year's time you react to these statements with cringe.

Just so you're aware:

This is the button you need to tap in order to move your submarines so that their attack range encompasses the boss, so you can summon them during the boss battle.

It costs oil, but the amount is very little.

And if you can't be bothered to do that, well...

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Open Ocean Support

Increases own Oxygen stat by 2 (20). If included in the submarine fleet: this fleet can provide battle support outside of hunting range once per Sortie.

 

[Zemeritt]

On 11/2/2021 at 9:12 AM, Marblehead_1 said:

I'm not sure did Deses and Worcesters could be too much for game. We have Allen M. Summer as SSR so I bet Gearing will follow this.

Daring - ok, I forget about them, Battle and Weapon class - IMO good for SSR 

 

If Des and Wooster would be added, their guns would be the to go option for most ships in their classes.

 

Thankfully, the USN had enough other CAs and CLs to fill out the EU roster for quite some time.

 

I could see the Alsaka appearing, as only both Sakura and IB have a large cruiser.

I'd assume every nation might get one down the road.

[WWDragon]

On 11/3/2021 at 12:11 AM, LOZFFVII said:

I can't wait until you play more late-game maps and in a year's time you react to these statements with cringe.

Just so you're aware

I am, just that I am trying to get a second fleet to lv 110s before I tackle world 9 (I managed to clear D2 but I dont think I can D3) and I know subs can be helpful but that means manually instead of just auto clear, besides you cannot use then on many maps that was kinda my point, they are kinda more limited.

 

BTW ...

On 10/31/2021 at 11:01 PM, LOZFFVII said:

Okay, so, I'm fairly certain I read on twitter that the next rerun (after Oratorio) was going to be NP, but now that I try to find it again I can't find it; so take that with a grain of salt.

 

 

Northern Overture is next, yes.

 

I was looking at the event seeing what was it about (more thirsty ship girls apparently) and noticed that Sovetsky Soyuz is in the game but isnt, not saying anything but what if ... Sovetsky Soyuz is added as a UR on the rerun?

 

Edit:

I am so confused right now ...

[MK1D]

Sovetsky Soyuz (soviet union) is the leader of the Northern Parliament and all faction leaders (Bismarck, Richelieu, Veneto, Nagato) up until now were released as faction buffing ships in their own events. 

[WWDragon]

2 hours ago, MK1D said:

Sovetsky Soyuz (soviet union) is the leader of the Northern Parliament and all faction leaders (Bismarck, Richelieu, Veneto, Nagato) up until now were released as faction buffing ships in their own events. 

I know, just nothing really stops then from doing so ... also oddly enough Bismarck was in the UR set so who knows?

 

More curious about Foch since another French event? could be a small one but that just pushes Gridman further down into end of November/start of December (not that I mind that) that certainly makes me wonder what the heck will be the UR in construction, I even thought it could just be a rerun but with NO being the next rerun it cant be it.

[MK1D]

45 minutes ago, WWDragon said:

More curious about Foch since another French event? could be a small one but that just pushes Gridman further down into end of November/start of December (not that I mind that) that certainly makes me wonder what the heck will be the UR in construction, I even thought it could just be a rerun but with NO being the next rerun it cant be it.

It could still be a russian themed event just like the first italian one when they released 5 italian ships and Formidable, but Foch was a real ship and had nothing to do with the russians. 

It is more likely we'll get a french event that finally explains what's going on with Bismarck. 

[LOZFFVII]

10 hours ago, WWDragon said:

I am, just that I am trying to get a second fleet to lv 110s before I tackle world 9 (I managed to clear D2 but I dont think I can D3) and I know subs can be helpful but that means manually instead of just auto clear, besides you cannot use then on many maps that was kinda my point, they are kinda more limited.

I'm...surprised you need to go as high as lvl110 for W9...

In fact, I'm fairly certain that all chapters up to 11 were available before the level cap was increased past 100.

Also, there is an auto-summon option for submarines, its just that they will be summoned for every fight within their range, meaning they'll spend their ammo more on your mob fleet than the boss fleet.

 

10 hours ago, WWDragon said:

 

Northern Overture is next, yes.

I was looking at the event seeing what was it about (more thirsty ship girls apparently) and noticed that Sovetsky Soyuz is in the game but isnt, not saying anything but what if ... Sovetsky Soyuz is added as a UR on the rerun?

Okay, I'm glad I didn't just dream that up.

Soyuz makes an appearance in the plot of Northern Overture, she doesn't really exist in the game outside of artwork at present.

 

5 hours ago, WWDragon said:

I know, just nothing really stops then from doing so ... also oddly enough Bismarck was in the UR set so who knows?

*Was* in the UR set. She was planned to be UR when the game was first released, but since then she had her own event and was "only" an SR.

 

5 hours ago, WWDragon said:

More curious about Foch since another French event? could be a small one but that just pushes Gridman further down into end of November/start of December (not that I mind that) that certainly makes me wonder what the heck will be the UR in construction, I even thought it could just be a rerun but with NO being the next rerun it cant be it.

4 hours ago, MK1D said:

It could still be a russian themed event just like the first italian one when they released 5 italian ships and Formidable, but Foch was a real ship and had nothing to do with the russians. 

It is more likely we'll get a french event that finally explains what's going on with Bismarck. 

Foch could be a mini-event (like Eskimo's event, or Ryuujou's event), which would make it only about a week long but require a substantial grind to complete.

 

If I had to guess, I'd say that the events are structured like this:

Rerun (2weeks) -> Mini Event (1week) -> New Event/UR Event (2weeks, or 2.5weeks like Shimakaze's event) -> Break (1week/1.5weeks if UR event is 2.5weeks) -> Rerun (Northern Overture, 2weeks)

In total that's 8/9 weeks (well, 7/8 weeks, given that Oratorio is half over), so that would take us up to the new year.

Was Gridman confirmed for this year? If it was, I'd guess that it would come after the mini event and before UR event, as that would match it up roughly with when Vacation Lane (DOA collab) happened last year. However, I would also expect to see the "break" moved from after UR Event to before it, in that case (to give players chance to recoup their cubes if they spent on Gridman). This would push Northern Overture rerun to January.

In any case, @WWDragon, I would recommend that if you want to get yourself a UR this time, to not spend cubes on any event heading up to the end of the year. If you want to have a decent chance at getting event ships, just spend the minimum 3 builds a day (for event points) on the event pool and no more. In fact, I would recommend you completely ignore Gridman event unless you're a fan of Gridman or a collector (which, given that you're F2P, I highly doubt you are).

[Pururut]

 

[LOZFFVII]

@Pururut

Some people can't see YT videos embedded into the forum, so you need to provide direct links.

Like so.

[Zemeritt]

Why is everyone expecting Soyuz to be UR?

 

Foch: Properly just another collector ship.

[WWDragon]

6 hours ago, LOZFFVII said:

I would recommend that if you want to get yourself a UR this time, to not spend cubes on any event heading up to the end of the year. If you want to have a decent chance at getting event ships, just spend the minimum 3 builds a day (for event points) on the event pool and no more. In fact, I would recommend you completely ignore Gridman event unless you're a fan of Gridman or a collector (which, given that you're F2P, I highly doubt you are).

 

I am only doing the 1 free daily build since I did my final 10 pull and got Le Terrible, I was going to skip Grindman due to /a/ shillposting that made me hate the series.

 

1 hour ago, Zemeritt said:

Why is everyone expecting Soyuz to be UR?

 

Foch: Properly just another collector ship.

 

Well I dont think its everyone, the teaboos are saying its of course a Royal Navy ship.

 

I am thinking its Soyuz only because the event schedule doesnt give that much breathing room, we know Grindman is in the works since the anniversary and its going to be relative soon simply because its been announced for over a month now, I dont think its going to be in March next year simply because of the announcement timing.

 

Personally I would like a Bismark UR (as it should) that makes totally sense considering AL is the reverse of WOWS (look at FdG, the number of soviet ships vs IJN ships) but honestly I have no idea what they were going to do, Shinano rerun would be my bet since its been over a year but then come the NO announcement being the next rerun and things get really packed in order for the UR being construction.