Favorite shipgirl (Kancolle,Azur lane, Arpeggio of blue steel,Haifuri)

[Panocek]

1 hour ago, Zemeritt said:

Considering Baal is watching Signora fighting us (You can see her in the trailer in the back), atleast she seems to be okay with the Fatui.

Or, whoever loses will get Divine Punishment of hers.

[LOZFFVII]

5 hours ago, Panocek said:

Or, whoever loses will get Divine Punishment of hers.

Considering it's Signora fighting;

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I'm betting it will end up with Baal losing her Gnosis.

Because of course it will.

Because every Archon will lose their Gnosis before the climactic battle against Tsaritsa sets everything right once again.

Because the overaching narrative, outside of relatively minor sidequests, of this game is predicatable.

 

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Now that I have reached Inazuma and have gotten access to the rest of the nation outside of Ritou, I have finally gained access to the events happening in Inazuma.

Theatre Mechanicus...while I initially liked the idea behind this tower-defence minigame, after several failed attempts at stage 3 (even using a guide) I have realised that this minigame benefits players who lucked into really good crowd-control characters via the gacha. To put it into perspective: the best crowd-control character I have is anemo traveller, no other character I have is good at crowd control. At the very least, it didn't take long to collect all of the primogems from the event.

The combat challenge (forgot its name), though? It's...easy to get all the primogem rewards so far, I guess. Just play by the rules and all the enemies die pretty quickly.

 

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I recently discovered this video:

A Serious Critique of Genshin Impact (1:41:53)

If you can spare the time to watch, it's a good critique of the good points and the bad points of the game.

[Panocek]

27 minutes ago, LOZFFVII said:

Theatre Mechanicus...while I initially liked the idea behind this tower-defence minigame, after several failed attempts at stage 3 (even using a guide) I have realised that this minigame benefits players who lucked into really good crowd-control characters via the gacha. To put it into perspective: the best crowd-control character I have is anemo traveller, no other character I have is good at crowd control.

Yes until you fail your way through ranks and unlock more potent buffs. Then its case of picking Chaos Cluster buff for physical turrets, few extra buffs for those and its AFK gaming. That or orbital strike+burning liquid for pyro and multistrike for electros for overload spam. Alternatively stunlock festival with anemos.

 

Buffs make or break the game mode, to the point you're often better rolling 10-15 times with initial supply of points for meatiest of buffs and clear first wave with two-three turrets only.

 

Also charged attacks from pretty much anyone can knockback smaller enemies just fine. Geo Traveler can block/delay with skill of his/her + knockback on direct hit, Barbara+Kaeya also exist, Barbs also can set up reactions just fine by wetting enemies before they get into range. Yanfei/Amber + electro towers (or Lisa + pyro ones) for early overload knockback. Heck, you can use your pyro+electro for overloads, but as reaction is triggered by your characters, no damage will be done.

 

27 minutes ago, LOZFFVII said:

The combat challenge (forgot its name), though? It's...easy to get all the primogem rewards so far, I guess. Just play by the rules and all the enemies die pretty quickly.

All events so far give primogems as "participation reward" on lowest difficulty.

[Zemeritt]

3 hours ago, LOZFFVII said:

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I'm betting it will end up with Baal losing her Gnosis.

Because of course it will.

Because every Archon will lose their Gnosis before the climactic battle against Tsaritsa sets everything right once again.

Because the overaching narrative, outside of relatively minor sidequests, of this game is predicatable.

 

 

 

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I'd assume that Scaramouche is actually using Signora here like she used Childe in Liyue.

And since he and Baal are similar in coloring, I think there is a connection between the two. (I also believe his words in the trailer "Since when you've become so weak" are actually directed to Baal, not the traveler)

I doubt that any archon will actually keep its Gnosis, although how they lose it could be interesting. Will some concede it like Rex Lapis?

Will they be taken by force, as with Venti (Who is the weakest lorewise)?

Maybe Baal already lost her Gnosis a year ago and therefor went bonkers over her eternity, fearing a new archons emerging out of the crowd with visions.

 

3 hours ago, LOZFFVII said:

If you can spare the time to watch, it's a good critique of the good points and the bad points of the game.

 

Put on my watch later list.

 

 

Regarding Azur Lane: I got the 2 new ships, only after building every single old banner ship first Reruns with new characters are my curse.

[LOZFFVII]

1 hour ago, Zemeritt said:

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I'd assume that Scaramouche is actually using Signora here like she used Childe in Liyue.

[...] (I also believe his words in the trailer "Since when you've become so weak" are actually directed to Baal, not the traveler)

 

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It could be directed at Signora; in the sense that, because Signora is a boss fight, she is defeatable.

"Since when have you become so weak?" -> He considers Signora weak for losing to the traveller.

 

1 hour ago, Zemeritt said:

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Maybe Baal already lost her Gnosis a year ago and therefor went bonkers over her eternity, fearing a new archons emerging out of the crowd with visions.

 

You know? I think you hit the nail on the goddamn head.

[Panocek]

 

I guess I'd be done with PR4 sooner if I've went with more fuel optimized fleets than leveling up rando characters in 12-4

[Zemeritt]

20 hours ago, LOZFFVII said:

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It could be directed at Signora; in the sense that, because Signora is a boss fight, she is defeatable.

"Since when have you become so weak?" -> He considers Signora weak for losing to the traveller.

 

 

 

Yeah, could also be. But since he was talking about eternity, I guess he was talking with Baal.

 

20 hours ago, LOZFFVII said:

You know? I think you hit the nail on the goddamn head.

 

Now is the question: Do the Fatui have it? Because if they do, why are they still there with atleast 2 harbringers.

Or is the Gnosis in the hands of someone else?

 

5 hours ago, Panocek said:

I guess I'd be done with PR4 sooner if I've went with more fuel optimized fleets than leveling up rando characters in 12-4

 

Congratz. I'm just at my 4th ship now

[LOZFFVII]

8 hours ago, Panocek said:

I guess I'd be done with PR4 sooner if I've went with more fuel optimized fleets than leveling up rando characters in 12-4

'Gratz.

And same here; I focused more on grinding Archive events than 12-4, I think had I focused more on 12-4 I'd also be already done.

I'm on my last PR4, btw, just the last 2.4M for Aegir to go (it's just a shame, then, that IB vanguard ships SUCK outside of the two Roons and Heinrich).

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I am, however, a moron who's using three Zerstorers to do the experience farming.

 

2 hours ago, Zemeritt said:

Yeah, could also be. But since he was talking about eternity, I guess he was talking with Baal.

Might be two separate conversations. We currently don't know how much presence he has in the story.

 

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Just3c has a video on new Microlayer Medley and Ark Retro.

 

To nobody's surprise, Ark Retro is really good.

[Maris_Piper]

Well looking at the Stats for FDG I noticed this, OMG I'm a Weeb 

 

[Panocek]

 

Say what you want, but Baal teaser drops one heck of a depression bomb, as well sheds some light on reasons why she does what she does in the story

[LOZFFVII]

27 minutes ago, Panocek said:

as well sheds some light on reasons why she does what she does in the story

Still, "because my loved ones died" is a pretty y reason to be taking everyone's visions, and killing all who oppose her.

Well, she'll get her just desserts when the Traveller is done, anyway.

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If things go according to plan by this time next week, I'll be fighting her with herself.

Currently, I'm already diverting resources from Fischl in preparation for a new Electro user, and I've decided to drop Dionya from my main adventuring party at least while exploring Inazuma, just so I can have a laugh at what the Inazuman peoples say directly to the face of their Shogun.

 

[Panocek]

1 minute ago, LOZFFVII said:

Still, "because my loved ones died" is a pretty y reason to be taking everyone's visions, and killing all who oppose her.

 

 

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If you're THE god of the nation and you've promised unchanging eternity, any and all means necessary might seem appropriate. At the same time, I have a feeling she is afraid of losing (or already lost) "herself" after suffering loss of her friends and news of Morax dying only made things worse. Thus, completely stripped of emotions (whole euthymia thing), she dedicated herself to carry out her promised task as deity of Inazumans, even at their own expense. Which is particularly  as Zhongli said somewhere Original Seven took an oath to protect and guide humanity, but any newcomers to Archonhood paid no heed to this oath, so few "casualties" and general castrating of her entire nation of ambition, source of "change" she despises so thoroughly were seen as acceptable in her book I suppose? Also no Visions -> no possible contenders for her title of an Archon, so her reign can be eternal.

 

19 minutes ago, LOZFFVII said:

just so I can have a laugh at what the Inazuman peoples say directly to the face of their Shogun.

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https://www.hoyolab.com/genshin/article/760383

 

While she has no intention of going incognito Zhongl/Venti style, she has no interest flaunting her Archonhood either. Then there is question how many commoners actually seen their own Shogun with their own eyes. Still, it gives hint of certain nanoda from certain shipgrill game

 

[Zemeritt]

3 hours ago, Panocek said:

Say what you want, but Baal teaser drops one heck of a depression bomb, as well sheds some light on reasons why she does what she does in the story

 

Sure does. The only one living could be the Oni girl, as she disappeared into the woods, maybe onto the 6th island of Inazuma, which is not inhabitated by humans?

 

2 hours ago, LOZFFVII said:

Still, "because my loved ones died" is a pretty y reason to be taking everyone's visions, and killing all who oppose her.

Well, she'll get her just desserts when the Traveller is done, anyway.

 

We don't know what caused the Calamity or Orobashi to happen/do what they did.

Maybe Baal judged Visions (or human ambition) to be the cause and therefor removes them to prevent something to happen again?

 

2 hours ago, Panocek said:

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If you're THE god of the nation and you've promised unchanging eternity, any and all means necessary might seem appropriate. At the same time, I have a feeling she is afraid of losing (or already lost) "herself" after suffering loss of her friends and news of Morax dying only made things worse. Thus, completely stripped of emotions (whole euthymia thing), she dedicated herself to carry out her promised task as deity of Inazumans, even at their own expense. Which is particularly  as Zhongli said somewhere Original Seven took an oath to protect and guide humanity, but any newcomers to Archonhood paid no heed to this oath, so few "casualties" and general castrating of her entire nation of ambition, source of "change" she despises so thoroughly were seen as acceptable in her book I suppose? Also no Visions -> no possible contenders for her title of an Archon, so her reign can be eternal.

 

 

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The question is: Did she herself really promise eternity, or did she just took over that idea from the original Archon and missunderstands it, as she lost her friends along the way, who might helped her to stay on the right path?

I could see Sara and Yae help her out (As successor and decendant respectivly, the Oni still is alive,just mad if I remember it correctly).

I'm just not sure if all this sad backstory will be enough to redeem her, although I expect us to break the statue of the omnipresent god and release all the visions again to their owners.

 

[Panocek]

14 hours ago, Zemeritt said:

 

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The question is: Did she herself really promise eternity, or did she just took over that idea from the original Archon and missunderstands it, as she lost her friends along the way, who might helped her to stay on the right path?

I could see Sara and Yae help her out (As successor and decendant respectivly, the Oni still is alive,just mad if I remember it correctly).

I'm just not sure if all this sad backstory will be enough to redeem her, although I expect us to break the statue of the omnipresent god and release all the visions again to their owners.

 

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Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if "Archons" and their goals are constant, just bodies they inhabit/possess change, akin to Herrscher possession in Honkai Impact, though probably less violent/damaging to the environment? That might explain why Archons go with demon names like Baal, Morax, Barbatos, while Shogun mortal name is Ei. While we don't know whether Morax had any other name before ascending to archonhood, we do know being that eventually became Barbatos was "just a nameless wind spirit" in the past.

 

Speaking of Chiyo, the oni lass that went insane, Traveler had their hand in wiping last of her descendants - Iwakura clanso I wouldn't be surprised if Baal story quest will revolve around finding her in the forests and trying to reason with her, maybe even "purifying" her of Abyss corruption as Traveler is capable of such feats... or put her to rest, as new weekly boss. or both, apply correct amount of blunt force trauma before you can purify her, that way one armed, one horned playable Oni can be a thing, though I believe she might hold a grudge against Traveler for killing her descendants.

 

[El2aZeR]

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...This means I'll need to go for hard pity for Raiden, doesn't it?

 

Ah nevermind, because when you actually want to roll ER it doesn't. xD

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[Panocek]

3 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

Ah nevermind, because when you actually want to roll ER it doesn't. xD

Well, my pieces for Baal that aren't complete garbage went full Qiqi mode for me. And that means I have over 50% atk bonus from three artefacts' substats, with next to no crits

 

Though calculated ER will be around 270% with that upcoming Catch pointy stick. Whether I'll go for her signature weapon depends on how badly I'll be shafted on her pulls.

[LOZFFVII]

As for me, I have at least 4/5 items from the Severed Fate set in purple rarity and I do not care about their substats.

This is good enough for me.

[Panocek]

So, luck kinda has been with me. While first 10pull on the banner brought me wrong 5* electro character, 7th 10pull brought me the Shotgun, while 14x10 pulls gave me two Unforgeds and purple pointy stick, so, all in all, everything even before soft pity

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Sadly, getting her up to speed will be annoying, as local specialty is mostly in area covered not only by Balethunder, but also you're constantly tracked by lightnings, which can strip Zhongli shield at worrying rate, rendering Yoimiya combat ineffective. That and boss that needs to be abused is quest walled

 

[LOZFFVII]

5 hours ago, Panocek said:

That and boss that needs to be abused is quest walled

I read two different comments on this on the Genshin Wiki:

One said that "You just use electrogranum to go into the sky", which doesn't seem too bad.

The other was more in-depth:

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So this is a questline you get to un-mess up an island and fix its Balethunder problems, like Sacred Sakura Cleansing Ritual, Orobashi's Legacy and Tatara Tales. So you'd be expecting a massively long, hard, and possibly tedious questline, right? Actually, no, this one's actually fairly short and easy despite being composed of four quests.

Doesn't seem like it'll be too bad to clear and gain access to the boss, all things considered.

Fortunately, I was already planning to make a dash to Seirai as soon as I completed my commissions today, so I'll have this done in a jiffy. The more difficult part of raising Baal will be getting all of the amakumo flowers (I need minimum 60 to get her to my current cap).

[Panocek]

54 minutes ago, LOZFFVII said:

I read two different comments on this on the Genshin Wiki:

One said that "You just use electrogranum to go into the sky", which doesn't seem too bad.

The other was more in-depth:

Doesn't seem like it'll be too bad to clear and gain access to the boss, all things considered.

Fortunately, I was already planning to make a dash to Seirai as soon as I completed my commissions today, so I'll have this done in a jiffy. The more difficult part of raising Baal will be getting all of the amakumo flowers (I need minimum 60 to get her to my current cap).

Quest was surprisingly brief and actually enjoyable at it, just first blind rush was met with casualties as there are next to no Electrograna on the ground. But once you can traverse the island in peace... alien, surreal, is pretty good description.

 

currently working on 6th ascension for Shogun, pointy stick already maxed out.

 

aaand she's done, still need better artifacts though

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[Zemeritt]

Atleast the missions isn't as slow as the Tatara tales.

 

I got my Ei aswell. And 2 Saras. Both of course need the drops of the new boss.

 

I got that coverered. Now onwards to explore. Although I might go for the Archon mission first, to unlock everything that might still be locked out.

 

 

Also: The Shogun can't cook.

[LOZFFVII]

59 minutes ago, Zemeritt said:

I got my Ei aswell. And 2 Saras.

Funnily enough, I also got Baal and two Saras. Was hoping another pull would give me either a new sugar molecule or another star on my chef.

Instead I got yet another Stringless. Is this bow even all that great?

I was surprised to learn that bosses can be refought on the same day now, I'm fairly certain they used to be restricted to once-per-day. Currently Baal is level 60, I just need to fight the thunder bat four more times to get her even with the rest of my party. Fortunately, just like the Electro Hypostasis, the bat is super easy to kill (not quite to the same level as the hypo where I can solo it with Amber without taking damage, but I've still got Qiqi for healing when Amber takes a little too much).

Currently, Baal is borrowing the chef's Prototype Starglitter, at least until I catch enough fish for "The Catch". I'm also considering getting the Luxurious Sea-Lord for Sayu, but that will have to wait for the event to start.

[Panocek]

1 minute ago, LOZFFVII said:

Is this bow even all that great?

Venti and Fischl would love to put their hands on that bow, thats for starters. Amber as ult spammer too, probably. Maybe Sara, though I think she would be better with Sacrificial Bow.

 

Still, fighting fire with fire was fun, if completely ineffective

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story spoiler, duh

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Also, once you're done with Inazuma Archon quest, you might see why I don't refer Electro Archon as Baal anymore 

[WWDragon]

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[LOZFFVII]

4 hours ago, WWDragon said:

I didnt get Nautilus in the end ... got everyone else, including Wishing Well (GZ and U-47) with Intrepid being the last one.

 

Also I think Ingraham is a good DD, also I *think* there is a screw up on the description in the wiki and its the opposite were its the TRP stat being increased by the AA stat as I recall reading something about that, and I think because she can work as a AA ship and also heal your vanguard as well "kinda" tank she opens up slots such as Independence without having to use a healer for the vanguard. Cooper on the other hand .. I mean, she is lagging behind and doesnt help I am throwing her among the 2 cruisers (Reno is a cutie) but I think she is too specialized in ASW and suffers for that.

 

Still have to use my invitation, its down to the Washington or NC ...

Welcome to the thread!

As you can probably tell from the last few posts, we don't exclusively talk about ship waifus here.

 

In terms of Microlayer Medley Rerun ships (and all ships, for that matter), we tend to go by what a youtuber by the name of Just3c says about them to determine if they're "good":

On 8/24/2021 at 12:01 AM, LOZFFVII said:

Just3c has a video on new Microlayer Medley and Ark Retro.

 

To nobody's surprise, Ark Retro is really good.

 

But, having said that, there is the universal rule of "Waifu > Meta", where it doesn't matter how good the ship is on paper you can literally use any character, provided you've prepared them enough.

Case in point: I'm doing a challenge-to-self of griding all of the Fletchers in-game to level 120. Provided you have at least one healer in the mainfleet and they are lvl90+ with good equipment, they have no problem dealing with 12-4.

 

Washington or NC...whichever you prefer. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

NC is really good at AA, which if you're lacking AA ships will come in handy for W12/13 but she doesn't bring a whole lot else to the table (other than...bunny suit), meanwhile Washy has been powercrept by Alabama (same barrage but better, and comes with mob fleet focused skillset instead of skill that only triggers if you have a specific other ship in your fleet).