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life’s Most depressing sights

 

depression

 

poverty

 

death.......

 

your lucky E strike going after a suicide boat.

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Okay, this is getting absurd.

Everyone remember when I got Akagi and Kaga within 30hrs of starting my 3-4 grind?

And then everyone remember how it took 4 months to get Yuudachi?

Well, I started taking my IJN Torpedo CL team (Jintsuu Retro, Yuubari and Sendai Retro) to 8-4 on Thursday last week to start grinding for Ibuki, not expecting to get Maya for a long time...and got Maya today.

I'm running out of drop-only ships to synergise my grinds with.:Smile_amazed:

Choukai is the only gold left, but the highest map I've actually cleared is 11-3, and something tells me my torpedo-CLs aren't going to manage world 12...

My only other option is to drop back down to 3-4 to try and get both Akagi and Kaga again for the medal, but that is super-inefficient for EXP grinding.

Well, strictly speaking I don't have Niizuki yet, so I've started the process of clearing 9-4 to make it accessible for IJN CLs...

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3 minutes ago, LOZFFVII said:

I don't have Niizuki yet

Now you have a goal:Smile_smile: even more so, as she is surprisingly decent, alongside her (half)sisters. They even work in 12-4 in mob fleet despite being 6 levels underage alongside with equally kek backline, last time was Hiryu/Soryu duo at... 103lvl

 

Besides, you can always grind 8-4 for spare Mayas to save on purins.

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5 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Besides, you can always grind 8-4 for spare Mayas to save on purins.

I have six. I'm not particularly bothered about using them up as I get one a week from missions alone, plus one a month from logins, and if I get particularly desperate I can grab any that show up in any of the shops.

But then I'm not swimming in elites that I desperately need to get to maximum power right now.

I'm thinking about Yuudachi and Z46, but I'm not desperate for either to be maxed just yet.

Still, sound advice and I will consider it.

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10 minutes ago, LOZFFVII said:

I have six. I'm not particularly bothered about using them up as I get one a week from missions alone, plus one a month from logins, and if I get particularly desperate I can grab any that show up in any of the shops.

But then I'm not swimming in elites that I desperately need to get to maximum power right now.

I'm thinking about Yuudachi and Z46, but I'm not desperate for either to be maxed just yet.

Still, sound advice and I will consider it.

I have 7 which is still not enough to max LB all the German backliners I have, should I go for FdG first.

And then, search for Chokai is still continues, so I guess 4 purins would go to her to complete Taco class:Smile_smile:

and then lusty sisters, Centaur, poi and pasta squad. Oh and JB

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New AL event incoming:

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Definitely IJN themed in nature. Looks like a rather old ship given the uniform and guns.

Perhaps we'll be going North and finally see some Russian ships added?

 

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16 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

Looks like a rather old ship given the [...] guns

 

I'm not very good with guns but it's along the lines of a single pedestal 14/50 3rd year type.

There's a bunch of old cruisers to choose from, Tenryuus and the whole Kuma lineage, including Yuubari. You can count Hosho as a cruiser aswell but I imagine it's not the right answer there.

 

Dunno if the blade matters or not. Ceremonial katanas were not that uncommon aboard or associated with IJN ships. The only one I know by heart is tied to Satsuki so it's obviously not that one therefore I can't tell if it does matter or not. One could probably identify the uniform but I'm no good at that either.

 

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12 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

Definitely IJN themed in nature. Looks like a rather old ship given the uniform and guns.

12 hours ago, LastButterfly said:

There's a bunch of old cruisers to choose from, Tenryuus and the whole Kuma lineage, including Yuubari. You can count Hosho as a cruiser aswell but I imagine it's not the right answer there.

Considering we don't have any Tenryuu or Kuma class ships in AL right now, I'm guessing she could be either. Here's hoping we get to see a retrofit Kitakami.

 

Funnily enough, I was looking into IJN CLs just the other day when I was pondering what an IJN CL tech tree would look like in wows. The short answer is "weird", they have very few guns compared with CLs of other nations and even stick to single turrets into T6 with the Sendai class. All ships up to T7 would be real (with the Agano class) with T8, 9 and 10 being design/fictional. My guess is they would play more like DDs with citadels and have strong torpedo armament for their tier, perhaps even gaining a choice between smoke or TRB at T5/6+. They'd be super-stealthy (I'm thinking stealthiest CLs in game, like Yuubari but upgraded to match higher tier requirements), allowing them to play to their torpedo strengths and have the option of running smoke so they can start using their low gunpower from relative safety, or TRB to double-down on their already impressive torpedo armament.

 


 

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1 hour ago, LOZFFVII said:

Funnily enough, I was looking into IJN CLs just the other day when I was pondering what an IJN CL tech tree would look like in wows. The short answer is "weird", they have very few guns compared with CLs of other nations and even stick to single turrets into T6 with the Sendai class. All ships up to T7 would be real (with the Agano class) with T8, 9 and 10 being design/fictional. My guess is they would play more like DDs with citadels and have strong torpedo armament for their tier, perhaps even gaining a choice between smoke or TRB at T5/6+. They'd be super-stealthy (I'm thinking stealthiest CLs in game, like Yuubari but upgraded to match higher tier requirements), allowing them to play to their torpedo strengths and have the option of running smoke so they can start using their low gunpower from relative safety, or TRB to double-down on their already impressive torpedo armament.

Sendai as tier 6 would have to be supersonic buffed. We already have Yahagi (Agano class) as tier 5 and its hardly decent ship. Tier 7 could be Mogami class (Mikuma?) in CL config and then ship lines merging or WG would have to go full napkin mode.

 

And started on Azuma research, mostly because new ship type and tiddies

Upcoming event with Shokaku getting an exp gain buff is also handy for first task

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2 hours ago, LOZFFVII said:

All ships up to T7 would be real (with the Agano class)

 

Aganos on T7? While they were build very late, they would hardly able to compete with the like of Helena on that tier.

I agree with @Panocek that T7 could be a Mogami CL.

 

Wasn't there plans with a CLs armed with 100mm guns? Somthing alike Didos or Atlantas?

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12 minutes ago, Zemeritt said:

Wasn't there plans with a CLs armed with 100mm guns? Somthing alike Didos or Atlantas?

 

This is the only thing that comes to mind

https://www.deviantart.com/tzoli/art/The-Japanese-Atlanta-465871716

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52 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Yahagi (Agano class) as tier 5

Oh yeah, I thought I read that name somewhere before...

Okay, I guess I was just kinda hopeful we'd actually see some IJN CLs at some point. Nevermind then.

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3 hours ago, LOZFFVII said:

Funnily enough, I was looking into IJN CLs just the other day when I was pondering what an IJN CL tech tree would look like in wows.

 

Not sure if that should go to PM or not so I'll just put it in spoilers to try & not be to spammy.

 

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I had a great discussion a long while ago about the Nagara/Sendai case with - can't remember his name, I'll look up the thread if you want, I think it was the pink panther guy but I'm not sure.

Anyway, he had done his own IJN CL techtree, I had mine for a while, and we discussed the tiering of Agano. We were both in agreement that IJN CLs were weak by any standards and how Agano wouldn't make the cut at tier 7. The disagreement we had was how he placed Agano at TV right after Kuma, while I advocated for having either Nagara or Sendai at TV and Agano at TVI.

 

My main point is that although there are great similarities between Kuma and Nagara/Sendai, there's also enough differences to justify overtiering (you can historically justify better gun performances, particularly rof, and far better torpedoes, amongst others).

Either way, on that point, we agreed to disagree if memory serves. There is no ultimate answer for techtrees after all, and I'm personally convinced any ship can fit correctly at least anywhere in a 3-tier interval provided it's fitted amongst the right branch and with the right gameplay (it's an especially necessary thought when you wanna try and make support-oriented branches, not that they'll ever come in wows ofc).

 

For the high tier, you have two possibilities. Depending on where you put Agano, project V-17/C-44, Agano kai, will carry you to TVI or VII. One of the way to go above it is to rely on the fakes heavies - Mogami, obviously, makes a fine TVIII "light cruiser" with her 155mm, and it is notable that Tone was to be fitted with the same fraud as Mogami (easily swappable 155mm) so a 155mm-variant of Tone can also be used. With my Agano at TVI, I ended up placing 155mm Tone and Mogami at tVIII and tIX respectively. Having them at VII and VIII is not ridiculous either but one gotta remember that these "CLs" will have many CA properties and thus proper balance would need to be made so that a Tone hull at TVII won't break the CL balance with other CL branches.

 

Then comes the TX and, there, I have no amazing answer. The easy way out is to pick project V-18/C-45, which if I remember correctly was an Ooyodo hull turned into a hedghog whose every spike is a 100mm barrel. If you're lacking a TIX too, a mini-variant of V-18 was drafted, a sort of Akizuki that went to the gym and ended up buffed af, tho it's debatable. I'm not a fan of V-18 there anyway, because they carry no torpedo and only 100mm guns, plus they'd come back to CL hulls after using CA hulls with 155mm. The gameplay break would dwarf that of getting Moskva after a CL-only branch.

Only other option I know is to dwell into the fantastic world of fantasy, which I decided to do by imagining a variant of Ibuki with the 155mm guns in the likes of Mogami and Tone. The idea behind that being "the doctrine of fitting CAs with 155mm guns to be able to quickly change them later was continued with the Mogami design". It's an absurd "what if treaties lasted longer" but it works in logical terms. As much as a fantasy design will ever work at least.

As for V-18, I've got it in one of my most absurd and terrible branch, an IJN CLAA one. And it's bad, but it's fun, so I don't wanna scrap it xD

 

I imagine a IJN CL gameplay would have to rely around torpedoes otherwise Agano is going to be useless regardless of the tier. I have a gameplay proposal for an actual CLt branch and the IJN DD branch (my personal one) that I could adapt to them too but it's so far removed from whatever could happen to wows that there's little point talking about it. Anyway~

 

That's just my take on it btw. Once again, there is no one magical perfect branch~

 

 

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2 hours ago, LastButterfly said:

(it's an especially necessary thought when you wanna try and make support-oriented branches, not that they'll ever come in wows ofc).

But I want Akashi in WoWS!:fish_viking:

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1 hour ago, LOZFFVII said:

But I want Akashi in WoWS!:fish_viking:

 

I actually have a techtree branch that uses clever gameplay trick to put auxialiary vessels, including Akashi which ends up at tier no obviously I'm joking (and you knew that). But I do have supportish gameplay for several DD and Cruiser line I have and they can be very strange as a result (like having a Battle at tier X or a Hunt at tier V. It'sthe same branch actually. Anyway)~

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