Favorite shipgirl (Kancolle,Azur lane, Arpeggio of blue steel,Haifuri)

[ShinGetsu]

36 minutes ago, LastButterfly said:

@ShinGetsu Considering how much you like hating on AL I can't help but think you'd have posted a similar message had the anime been any good...

I don't know. If it was any good I wouldn't have said anything.

But this anime is trash. Seriously. It was even worse than kancolle and I thought they simply couldn't fail this hard. I went to watch it trying to set aside my bias, thinking they could at least get some good story out of it but no. It is objectively lower than my expectations.

 

All I see is pandering for young demographic with cheap lewd shots honestly. And Enterprise being a complete Mary Sue doesn't help the script.

 

Like, compare ANY fight scene in AL against any Yamato scenes in the Kancolle movie. Even just the fire effects and the impact on water are significantly worse.

 

To be honest I hate AL because they oversexualize everything and a good 80% of their design are trash. And with how much money they foockin made with that game, they could have done way better for an anime...

[LastButterfly]

7 minutes ago, ShinGetsu said:

All I see is pandering for young demographic with cheap lewd shots honestly.

 

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To be honest I hate AL because they oversexualize everything and a good 80% of their design are trash.

 

Yeah, and it works. Can't blame them, where there's a demand, commercials offer.

I don't like AL because it's shallow and uses the stereotypes of an ecchi anime pushed to the extreme to sell. But it's not like they're hiding it, on the contrary, it's their main selling point ; hating on it on a regular basis serves little purpose. And don't go comparing it to the way I treat WG, because they are effing liars who manipulate gullible players and try to pose as a victim whenever things go wrong while I don't remember seeing AL ever pretending you'd get an amazing scenario and deep character developement while playing.

Just sayin', if you're hating that much, it means you where expecting something in the first place, and you were wrong to do so because there was absolutely no reason to. Either that or you're gatekeeping the genra for kancolle - but honestly Kancolle has got its fair share or extremely bad points aswell and its 1st anime season was no better.

 

Sorry, I wanted to get it out of my system.

[MeowTheFirst]

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[ShinGetsu]

1 hour ago, LastButterfly said:

 

Yeah, and it works. Can't blame them, where there's a demand, commercials offer.

I don't like AL because it's shallow and uses the stereotypes of an ecchi anime pushed to the extreme to sell. But it's not like they're hiding it, on the contrary, it's their main selling point ; hating on it on a regular basis serves little purpose. And don't go comparing it to the way I treat WG, because they are effing liars who manipulate gullible players and try to pose as a victim whenever things go wrong while I don't remember seeing AL ever pretending you'd get an amazing scenario and deep character developement while playing.

Just sayin', if you're hating that much, it means you where expecting something in the first place, and you were wrong to do so because there was absolutely no reason to. Either that or you're gatekeeping the genra for kancolle - but honestly Kancolle has got its fair share or extremely bad points aswell and its 1st anime season was no better.

 

Sorry, I wanted to get it out of my system.

My biggest issue with the AL anime (and ONLY the anime) is that they had a lot of potential AND a lot of money to put something into it. They COULD have done something truly good, regardless of how much I hate their design.

But they didn't.

I went in with low expectations and they managed to go even lower.

 

Meanwhile we're waiting the next kancolle movie/series which shows a lot more promises.

 

I'm not really defending kancolle either. I mostly stopped playing. The game lacks way too much QoL for an - almost - 2020 game, and the devs clearly don't understand a lot of things they should have. I'm pretty sure they downright ignore feedback anyway.

I have other things to do anyway. I didn't even go further than E2 of the current event and probably won't even clear E4. No motivation at all.

[LOZFFVII]

2 hours ago, LastButterfly said:

@ShinGetsu Considering how much you like hating on AL I can't help but think you'd have posted a similar message had the anime been any good...

I wouldn't have gone there, feels like you're trying to provoke something.

But seeing as he responded, I'm just going to pick out a couple of counter-arguments:

1 hour ago, ShinGetsu said:

To be honest I hate AL because they oversexualize everything

100% of the Taiha art in KC: *exists*

1 hour ago, ShinGetsu said:

And with how much money they foockin made with that game, they could have done way better for an anime...

And you could have said the same thing about the KC anime...

The script had nothing really going for it other than an attempt at being edgy and going for a Madoka-esque EP3, which was all the rage at the time, a completely out-of-left field one-shot episode focusing on DesDiv6 ("Too much sweet, not enough meat" as one of my friends said at the time), and Fubuki being chosen as the flagship of a fleet made up of Three DDs, a BC and two CVs because ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. And don't get me started on episodes 11 and 12...

 

FYI, I'm not saying I disagree with you about the AL anime, just that you can't say one is better than the other when they both do the same thing...

Although the AL anime's animation quality is certainly a lot worse. Pretty certain most of the last scene in EP4 was a powerpoint presentation.

 

But that's enough negativity, let's have some cute:

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[LastButterfly]

32 minutes ago, LOZFFVII said:

I wouldn't have gone there, feels like you're trying to provoke something.

 

Dontacha worry, if I had wanted to start a huge argument I would have done so on his personal discord server ~

We've quarreled enough back in the not-so-glorious days when I was still playing wows and the depth of the French forum are filled with pages of our arguments. I only push buttons on the trolls and idiots, Shin can be narrow-minded at time but he has a brain (and in today's society that's saying a lot).

 

36 minutes ago, LOZFFVII said:

100% of the Taiha art in KC: *exists*

 

Well, er... I mean, sure, KC's taiha art capitalizes inconsistantly on ecchi elements but I don't know, I feel like maybe AL is like... a step above ? Or like, ten steps ?

I dunno, maybe it's just me...

 

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On the one hand, you have generous plunging shots on cleavages that could give the great canyon a run for its money, and other kinds of underwear shots...

 

Aaaand on the other hand you have...
... basically naked lolies ?

 

 

 

 

You'll argue that I'm cherry picking AL's worse and that kancolle also has its fair share, but the most risque kancolle skins are not in general the most recent while in AL it's more of the contrary.
Besides, back in the days, Maestrale's taiha skin in kancolle was modified precisely because it was judged too lewd. Kancolle has a limit.

 

Both of them use this element for sure (what can I say, scantily-clad girls sell well, it's a trick as old as time) but I feel like one makes of it one of its main selling points while the other does not.

 

But the ecchi element is the tip of the iceberg. Personally, AL's killing point are the girls personalities for me. We're dwelling in the anime stereotypes that are applied for no other reason that "it'll sell". It feels like you could swap them around and it still works.

Kancolle has a catastrophic gameplay (I would argue it has no gameplay at all, but that's me hating on mobile-generic passive gameplay ; however, if you ask me, even for mobile standards, Kancolle's gameplay - or lack thereof - is, if I may say, abysmal). But at least the characters, even if you can't say they're great (most of them at least) seem to have juuuust a teensy more depth than just "catering to the playerbase's fetish".
 

But once again, one can't really blame AL. It sells well.

 

53 minutes ago, LOZFFVII said:

But that's enough negativity

Why does everybody hate negativity so much ? It's interesting. I'd be sad if the world was perfect and there was nothing about it to discuss.

[Marblehead_1]

Oh, here we go again.

 

I leave both animations because let's say honest, I do not watched even single episode of AL and I'm really not interested in it. 

 

In case of senseless war beetween KC and AL I moved some time ago from fanatical defending of KC ( which was stupid to the highest degree and I'm still in shame for this ) into symbiosis beetween both. In KC I dislike very much almost non existent gameplay and mentioned in this page intentional skipping of feedback by development team of game, lack of any quality of life upgrades and so big factor of RNG, factor of visible P2W is also doesn't make me like this gameplay which as some could say it's literal full time job instead of game but it looks like phenomenon called japanese neet like it - me as someone who have real time job is just terrible. Also from longer perspective of time I could say that game is made to punish player for every his move or at least reduce the loses and milk him as much as possible. Only thing which saves this production in my eyes is really design of characters which often have good quality. I say often but not always. To be honest if not few characters which I very like I would rather leave this "game" long ago because this "game" didn't bring any joy or entertainment only more or less frustration. I even didn't started E-5 or E-6 in this Fall 19 event because there is nothing interesting in it and both ABDA Light Cruisers have only trophy value but I had to get them no matter what due to sentimental reasons. KC Atlanta is just ugly and I have not intention of losing tons of resources only for bigger Isuzu K2 with better AA but without OASW ( Atlanta is just poor CL at everything except AACI ) especially when Akizuki class and Fletcher class exists.

 

As AL player too I very like it's gameplay, which allows me to regulate time of playing very good - game is not forcing me to grind nonstop or I will be fcked during event because I do not have one specific character which make routing better or have broken damage multiplier, I also appreciate non existent P2W factor. I'm not forced to spend single Euro/Dollar for this production but I bought few skins which were simply nice and elegant. Yes, gameplay in all aspects is very nice and at least development team hear or tries to hear the community voice in many aspects. In terms of characters I got problem however. Some of AL characters are just too lewd and I'm not saying about CG's because some of KC damaged arts are literally R-17,999 like Hamakaze, Tanikaze, Kashima, Shimakaze, Musashi, Italian DD's but rather to the fact that few of girls are just made by force as just horny sl*ts. Ok, they can be very flirtatious but sometimes I think that the border has been crossed far too much but it's only few characters like Taihou. But tbh I'm not forced to use disliked characters and I'm playing with only this characters which I like and what it's most interesting I do not lost anything.

 

Still I think AL didn't created character which so much moved me like KC Hayashimo, Roma or Taihou, as I said few times before - I'm suprised how design of anime girl can show so emphatically and movingly horrors and tragedy of war without falling into unnecessary pathos and moralizing - especially Hayashimo. But still I'm not a weeb, I'm far from it and my perception of characters may be different. AL make Juneau good in same way like I appreciate Hayashimo but she is not as good as this destroyer or rather she could have added something more. Yes, I think it's good sentence.

 

Quality of arts as quality. I will not discuss lewd/not lewd factor but quality per se. In both productions it's similar case. KC has BoB ( Myoko class, Sendai class ) or Yoshinori ( Yamato ) which they made good quality of arts while KC has Enka ( KGV class ) or Liduke ( Amagi, Gascogne and Monarch - very good quality, hot but not lewd ) which are also great but also both productions have arts like most of characters by Shibafu ( here I only like his Ise K2 and Intrepid CG's ) or AL author of CG's for Z-18 and other DD's from this class which are just bland and uninteresting. Here I'm talking about quality of CG's only. 

 

My rating of few designs in both games.

1st Car Div - AL but it's not hard to beat something which in KC has quality of nothing, sorry but I do not understand why Akagi and Kaga in KC become so popular, they are bland and uninteresting to the highest level. Implied Yuri between them? I don't get it.

5th Car Div - if only I would include Shoukaku KC would win, if case will be also Zuikaku it's draw

Italian ships - draw with indication of AL because my like to the KC Abruzzi, if not AL would win decesively

German ships - AL for sure but similar as for 1st Car Div it isn't hard to make something better than quality of nothing

Myoko class - KC and there are no competition here

Kagero class - KC

Sendai class - draw without any indication

If we assumpt that KC Yamato is AL Amagi then I would say it's 100:100 draw.

[LOZFFVII]

29 minutes ago, LastButterfly said:

You'll argue that I'm cherry picking AL's worse and that kancolle also has its fair share, but the most risque kancolle skins are not in general the most recent while in AL it's more of the contrary.

Besides, back in the days, Maestrale's taiha skin in kancolle was modified precisely because it was judged too lewd. Kancolle has a limit.

If we want to get into cherry-picking, you're also doing the same for some of KC's least-lewd taiha art. Although, some of their worst I don't think you can share on this forum...(Actually, I'm surprised you even shared Smalley's Halloween outfit...)

If I was to list examples of KC's lewdest, I would list Z1 and Z3's swimsuits, then I would raise you their taiha portraits. Not to mention Kitakami's Kai-2 taiha has only a single scrap of cloth over her chest whilst Ooi Kai-2 is the same but for her groin. Then I might as well point out that Makigumo has lost her bra in her taiha. I'm pretty certain Jailbait Loli Grecale is completely topless in one of her taihas (I forget if it's her normal outfit or Halloween). And the less said about poor Maruyu the better...

And on the subject of censorship, Ping Hai has had two swimsuits - one of which was toned down to get the one she currently has (the original literally only had squares of cloth covering the goods), and Bache's motorbike skin had the '617CH' changed to '61700' (and I still maintain it should have been '64CHE' or 'DD470').

37 minutes ago, LastButterfly said:

Both of them use this element for sure (what can I say, scantily-clad girls sell well, it's a trick as old as time) but I feel like one makes of it one of its main selling points while the other does not.

If by "Selling Point" you mean "you must pay cash to use this" then, yeah, I agree with you. Meanwhile Kancolle is just like "Oh, it's summer? Here, put your loli destroyers in super-revealing bikinis on the house! Oh, you don't want to lewd your daughterus? Too bad! They're permanent for the whole season!"

43 minutes ago, LastButterfly said:

But the ecchi element is the tip of the iceberg. Personally, AL's killing point are the girls personalities for me. We're dwelling in the anime stereotypes that are applied for no other reason that "it'll sell". It feels like you could swap them around and it still works.

Can you tell me what Isonami's personality is, without looking it up? I can't tell you, but I know she's the Fubuki-Type1-class with two braided pigtails.

If you happen to find out, could you honestly tell me that her personality couldn't be swapped with some other DD to get the same result?

The trouble is, when you have character numbers reaching into the mid-hundreds, you start to reach the point where distinct personalities are getting blurry and characatures or stereotypes start becoming your go-to to differentiating between them. Your more important characters (rarer characters or your main cast) need to be distinct, but less popular characters (or throwaway rares/commons) can be fairly bland so long as you make them appealing to someone. Shimakaze? Unique. Yukikaze? Eh, not so much. Kongou? Unique until we got Iowa and Jervis. Hiei? Uhm, does 'tomboy who can't cook' sound very unique to you? Akagi? Bland af.

Meanwhile on AL's side: Yukikaze? Nanoda! Akagi? AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH! Hiei? Eh...kinda bland (but Hiei-chan is a good daughteru). Kongou? We have plenty of Ojou-samas here. Shimakaze? Honestly, without playing Crosswave, I couldn't tell you.

1 hour ago, LastButterfly said:

Why does everybody hate negativity so much ? It's interesting. I'd be sad if the world was perfect and there was nothing about it to discuss.

Actually, I was just trying to stop any KCvAL arguments getting out of hand, just like @Marblehead_1 above I am actually a fan of both - KC has plenty shipgirls I love (hell, RJ and Asakaze are still two of my waifus, and I want to adopt every kaiboukan in existance), as well as lots of superior artwork. However, I refuse to allow halftruths like "AL is lewder than KC" to go unchallenged.

Still, AL has superior gameplay and there's simply no argument to be had there. That and I love my Chinese CLs, a nation that KC is unlikely to approach any time soon (what with the dev's focus on historical revisionism "Can't let the Japanese be the bad guys! Oooooooh noooooooo!").

 

...

Yeah, that's another thing I don't like about KC. Something I can't forgive either. At least the Chinese devs of AL are like "Okay, the IJN faction are the bad guys...but they're not, like totally evil! Just misguided!".

*sigh*

Okay! Happy thoughts!

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[LastButterfly]

28 minutes ago, LOZFFVII said:

(Actually, I'm surprised you even shared Smalley's Halloween outfit...)

If I was to list examples of KC's lewdest

 

Smalley's halloween art has been shared here before. Otherwise I wouldn't even know it exists.

As for KC's lewdest, I think you could have just made a point with two words : Luigi Torelli. Even tho it's technically not as revealling as half of the designs out there, I've never felt the FBI's gaze stronger than when she's somewhere on my screen.

 

28 minutes ago, LOZFFVII said:

If by "Selling Point" you mean "you must pay cash to use this"

 

No, by selling point I mean "a feature of something that makes people want to buy or use it" as defined by the Oxford dictionnary. There's no notion of having to pay for it - even something free has selling points.

Wether it's free or not doesn't matter for me, the fact that it's used to attract players is enough. Arguably, Kancolle's bikini skins cannot even be kept outside of a specific season, so it's difficult to think it serves as such a strong selling point. Besides, maybe that's me being cheeky, but a bikini is less lewd than no bikini.

 

28 minutes ago, LOZFFVII said:

Can you tell me what Isonami's personality is, without looking it up?

As a matter of fact I can, but that's only because you picked a Fubuki-class. You argument would have been valid with almost any other non-class-leader of any class so I understand it.

As for whether it's swappable or not, you pointed out yourself that with characters in the hundred it's impossible to have personalities that are both fitting, interesting, and original. Then again, in kancolle, I feel like there's a larger proportion of less-generic, less-shallow personalities. Does that make them not necessarly as appealing ? Probably. Does a larger proportion mean most of them ? Absolutely not.

But once again, it might just be a question of tastes. Like I've said, if AL was that bad, it wouldn't have attracted its playerbase.

 

28 minutes ago, LOZFFVII said:

Actually, I was just trying to stop any KCvAL arguments getting out of hand, just like @Marblehead_1 above I am actually a fan of both [...] However, I refuse to allow halftruths like "AL is lewder than KC" to go unchallenged.

I'm actually a fan of neither, does that make me just as impartial, or more impartial ?~

Messing aside, you said it yourself :

28 minutes ago, LOZFFVII said:

Still, AL has superior gameplay and there's simply no argument to be had there.

And, indeed, I have no arguments there.

Is a game with (arguably) better designs and (slightly) more character work, but a catastrophic gameplay better than a good gameplay with worse characters and/or designs, my answer is that I don't want to play either of them. I'm that picky. That said, if you don't want to let facts like AL being lewder run wild because you believe they are untrue, you may have a bit more work to do. Sadly, i'm far from convinced - as far as I know, doesn't AL often "reveal" - or, maybe more accurately, "teases" - its upcoming girls with photos of their bare thighs, shoulder, collarbone, and other, more risque places ? It's difficult to think they're not making of it a selling point.
Tho if you want to continue the argument or else, I have no objection reviving our old conversation. I'm eager to listen shall you have more arguments - although I don't think I have much to add myself. As I said before, I have the interesting, but narrow viewpoint of an outsider for both games. There's little I can say aside outside impressions.

 

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Ah yes, about the history and historical revisionism, I won't judge. I can't say much and none of these two are supposed to played with history in mind if you ask me. So I can't and won't comment on it, I don't think it's the point, and if I did comment, it would be a bad point for both.

[MeowTheFirst]

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[LOZFFVII]

5 hours ago, LastButterfly said:

As for KC's lewdest, I think you could have just made a point with two words : Luigi Torelli. Even tho it's technically not as revealling as half of the designs out there, I've never felt the FBI's gaze stronger than when she's somewhere on my screen.

Oof. Yeah, that would be, uh, Jiji's uhm, "talent" on full, uh display.

5 hours ago, LastButterfly said:

but a bikini is less lewd than no bikini.

Well, most of KC's characters lose their bikini on taiha so that's not really a point in KC's favour...

5 hours ago, LastButterfly said:

As a matter of fact I can, but that's only because you picked a Fubuki-class.

I should have remembered who I was talking to.

5 hours ago, LastButterfly said:

You argument would have been valid with almost any other non-class-leader of any class so I understand it.

Well, at least my point wasn't completely lost.

5 hours ago, LastButterfly said:

As for whether it's swappable or not, you pointed out yourself that with characters in the hundred it's impossible to have personalities that are both fitting, interesting, and original. Then again, in kancolle, I feel like there's a larger proportion of less-generic, less-shallow personalities. Does that make them not necessarly as appealing ? Probably. Does a larger proportion mean most of them ? Absolutely not.

I think you kinda lost your way there.

Well, maybe KC does have better characterisation on paper, but one advantage that AL has in characterisation is it's chibis (I literally just remembered this now).

KC can at most give voices and the visuals are entirely static .jpgs of cute girls. In AL the characters' chibi sprite animations add details you can't get in KC. Yuubari occasionally freezes in place with pin-pr!ck irises. San Juan occasionally does a 'horrified' face-fault and clutches her head like she's having a panic attack (she's probably having to deal with Sandy's shenannigans again). Littorio's dance animation is...finger guns. Elegant Kizuna Ai occasionally pulls out her phone and starts playing a game, gets cross with it, mouths "fakkyu" twice and throws the phone away. Alabama does...this.

5 hours ago, LastButterfly said:

I'm actually a fan of neither, does that make me just as impartial, or more impartial ?~

It means you're a weirdo.

5 hours ago, LastButterfly said:

That said, if you don't want to let facts like AL being lewder run wild because you believe they are untrue, you may have a bit more work to do.

I didn't say it was "untrue" I said it was a half-truth. My point being that those who say AL is lewder often just overlook how lewd a lot of the stuff in KC actually is. If I was to give my own opinion, I'd say they're about equal. Although certainly Bache and Smalley's Halloween outfit push it more towards AL, but then you've got the pasta sub and poor Maruyu's taiha portrait in KC.

5 hours ago, LastButterfly said:

Sadly, i'm far from convinced - as far as I know, doesn't AL often "reveal" - or, maybe more accurately, "teases" - its upcoming girls with photos of their bare thighs, shoulder, collarbone, and other, more risque places ? It's difficult to think they're not making of it a selling point.

I think KC does the same, though? At least for swimsuit outfits? I don't really know as I don't really pay attention to teasers for either game.

5 hours ago, LastButterfly said:

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Ah yes, about the history and historical revisionism, I won't judge. I can't say much and none of these two are supposed to played with history in mind if you ask me. So I can't and won't comment on it, I don't think it's the point, and if I did comment, it would be a bad point for both.

Historical revisionism is something that more-or-less the whole of Japanese society likes to partake in, so it's a sore spot for me even as a self-professed Japanophile. Essentially Japan has never taken responsibility for the actions that they took during WW2, and in the modern era they deliberately try to bury it under the rug. You'll be hard pressed to find a random Japanese person on the streets who is fully aware of what happened during WW2 outside of "We were the only country in history to be bombed by Nuclear weapons".

The KC devs themselves have stated that they don't like AL, because they feel it "misses the tragedy of the IJN" and that "you are likely to cry playing KC". I'm sure plenty of people cried during the Bismarck event, after seeing U-556 fail to save her aniki.

 

Ugh, historical revisionism is becoming a trigger word for me, so Imma need to detox.

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AL Yuudachi as KC Yuudachi.

Source (for translation)

 

 

[LastButterfly]

45 minutes ago, LOZFFVII said:

I think you kinda lost your way there.

Well, maybe KC does have better characterisation on paper, but one advantage that AL has in characterisation is it's chibis (I literally just remembered this now).

 

Ah, but these are two totally different things. I was only talking about the identity of each character. AL's chibis are an additional way to convey this identity but they don't add anything to it; they just make it clearer, more accurate, and/or more detailed for the player to understand.

Not that it doesn't play. With characters that are only scarcely shown, more is left to the imagination, which means players are more likely to have a mental image of the characters that they've modelled however they want.

Either way, you have a point, but that debate is in another castle~ Besides, now that both of these games have an anime, they're somewhat equal in terms of characterisation.

 

50 minutes ago, LOZFFVII said:

I didn't say it was "untrue" I said it was a half-truth. My point being that those who say AL is lewder often just overlook how lewd a lot of the stuff in KC actually is. If I was to give my own opinion, I'd say they're about equal. Although certainly Bache and Smalley's Halloween outfit push it more towards AL, but then you've got the pasta sub and poor Maruyu's taiha portrait in KC.

 

You know how I love accurate language, so apologies but I beg to differ - if think they are equally lewd, then you think that "one is lewder than the other" is untrue. That is just sheer logic.
Now that nitpicking on words is out of the way, allow me to nitpick on mathematics - if you think that they're equal, but that something pushes it more towards one of them, even if by only the tiniest margin, then they're not equal anymore.

 

I'm done nitpicking, so now for the serious arguments ; we'd need a study and a jury to rate the lewdness of every design in both game. That would take ages and not be worth the efforts so unless you're up for litteral days of looking at anime girls and deciding wether or not they're indecent-looking, let's just agree that it's a question of viewpoint or something ^^. ~

 

55 minutes ago, LOZFFVII said:

I think KC does the same, though?

But that I know, but I haven't followed teasers in a while, so I can't say for sure. I just have the feeling AL does it all the time while KC teases with a full picture - or no picture at all. Once they did silouhettes (no idea if that's spelled correctly) but these things are not lewd at all because the point is that you can't see.

 

56 minutes ago, LOZFFVII said:

Historical revisionism is something that more-or-less the whole of Japanese society likes to partake in

Find me a society which doesn't do that -.-

And I'd like not to hear stuff like "yeah but X does it more than Y". On what standards ? Because an event is older or affected less people, it can be considered less important ? And even if it's true in some cases - which it probably is - does that mean that because some people do worse, doing bad is okay ?

That's all too common, sadly. For reasons I cannot begin to grasp, people are so attached to the lump of land they were born on that hearing horrible events orchestrated by other, random, unrelated peopled who lived at the same place ages ago is unbearable to them.

 

But let's also agree to stop there, because the forum prefers scantily-clad girls to political arguments and if I go on I'll start reminding people how the oh so valued "qualities" or patriotism and nationalism were the very things that gave birth, amongst many disgusting things, to the infamous Italian beams, at the root of the name of a political fad of the early XXth century.

 

1 hour ago, LOZFFVII said:

I should have remembered who I was talking to.

Next time pick Murakumo. I personally hate her KC design and personality~

[El2aZeR]

And that's E-6C done.

Didn't bother with any higher difficulty as the rewards didn't seem to be worth it.

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[Molly_Delaney]

There's also a ONE HOUR version of the Poi Song!

 

I am not responsible for what happens........

 

[MeowTheFirst]

11 minutes ago, Molly_Delaney said:

There's also a ONE HOUR version of the Poi Song!

 

I am not responsible for what happens........

 

Too late....

I already listened to several hours worth........

[guy_incognito79]

Are there any normal female skippers in this game or is it just weeb heaven?

[Zemeritt]

This didn't took as long as I expected:

Spoiler

 

[LOZFFVII]

20 hours ago, guy_incognito79 said:

Are there any normal female skippers in this game or is it just weeb heaven?

To which game are you referring?

Kantai Collection, Azur Lane or World of Warships?

[Zemeritt]

3 hours ago, LOZFFVII said:

To which game are you referring?

Kantai Collection, Azur Lane or World of Warships?

 

I assume he means WoWs. Like WoT has female crews, he properly want female captains in this game.

[MeowTheFirst]

20 minutes ago, Zemeritt said:

 

I assume he means WoWs. Like WoT has female crews, he properly want female captains in this game.

Official mod station

AL captains

[LOZFFVII]

25 minutes ago, Zemeritt said:

I assume he means WoWs. Like WoT has female crews, he properly want female captains in this game.

In which case, @guy_incognito79, you'll have to look up how to get your hands on a Dasha Perova captain or do as @MeowTheFirst says and find the official modpack.

[MeowTheFirst]

https://worldofwarships.com/en/content/modstation/

here is a link to mod station.