Favorite shipgirl (Kancolle,Azur lane, Arpeggio of blue steel,Haifuri)

[El2aZeR]

8 hours ago, LastButterfly said:

On that notion, kancolle has a similar safeguard doesn't it ? I mean, as long as you don't go on with taihad ships they can't sink right ? Or did they change it ? It ain't as hardcore.

 

Yeah, as long as your ship wasn't taiha at the beginning of a battle she can't sink.

Otherwise I reckon KC would be impossible to play. 

[Centurion_1711]

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[Zemeritt]

12 hours ago, LastButterfly said:

Well, I'm a fire emblem newbie (I've only ever picked up one - no wait, two - games from the serie). so I don't know which one you're talking about. But maybe it was an approximation problem ? You know, they'll show 100% to the player when it's actually 99.7% used in the calculation or so.

 

I believe it was Thracia 776, which was never released in the west. But the ROMs have changed it to never display 0 or 100% hitrate.

[Panocek]

So. Not only "zoom bug" was acknowledged by Yostar/Manjuu, its already implemented into the game as proper feature, even on EN

 

meanwhile WG cannot into signal flag demount

[Marblehead_1]

23 minutes ago, Panocek said:

So. Not only "zoom bug" was acknowledged by Yostar/Manjuu, its already implemented into the game as proper feature, even on EN

 

meanwhile WG cannot into signal flag demount

But WG has optimized premium shop 

 

Personally I'm really suprised that AL dev team so fast responsed to this. I'm playing beyond AL and WoWs only KC ( and I'm very interested about Ultimate Admiral: Dreadnoughts ) so that's why I'm probably why I'm so suprised.

[LOZFFVII]

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[MeowTheFirst]

13 hours ago, Centurion_1711 said:

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The POI is strong with this one (POI)

 

 

[Sunleader]

On 11/22/2019 at 8:04 AM, El2aZeR said:

 

Yeah, as long as your ship wasn't taiha at the beginning of a battle she can't sink.

Otherwise I reckon KC would be impossible to play. 

 

Meanwhile.

 

I Play a Game with Queen Elizabeth.

Scharnhorst Shows me Full Broadside. 2 Bounces...

Bayern Shows me Full Broadside. My Shells land all around it.....

Queen Elizabeth (enemy) Is going Backwards with Full Broadside to me. Again all my Shells just Land all around her with no Hits....

Kagero Pops up 5km away from me allowing me to do 4k Damage and Kill her before I eat 3 times my HP worth of Torps.....

Of course at this Point Enemy already had a Lead of 5 Kills over us and the Kagero was the First Kill our Team made....

 

I think to myself. Yeah. That Battle was Pretty Crab.

 

Its 13 Minutes after Next Day for Girls Frontline. And Today is the Increased Drop Rates for AK-12 and AN-94

I put Production on. I prepared enough Fast Production, Ressources and Contracts to Immediately Spam 50 Constructions and then Start doing more over the 2 Days.

2nd Construction AK-12

5th Construction AN-94

 

 

Luck is a Limited Ressource. And it seems my Allowance for Today has been used up by Girls Frontline xD

 

[El2aZeR]

11 hours ago, Sunleader said:

Luck is a Limited Ressource. And it seems my Allowance for Today has been used up by Girls Frontline xD

 

Literally first pull = AK-12

 

 

I think I'll refrain from playing WoWs today. 

[MeowTheFirst]

12 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

 

Literally first pull = AK-12

 

 

I think I'll refrain from playing WoWs today. 

If your luck ever runs out then listen to this

https://youtu.be/dwDHY_M_jFc

 

[El2aZeR]

https://www.reddit.com/r/kancolle/comments/e0alat/news_next_maintenance_date_1129/

 

PREPARE FOR SALT.

[El2aZeR]

https://www.reddit.com/r/kancolle/comments/e19ldi/news_new_ship_northampton_class_heavy_cruiser/

 

Houston is apparently going to be a map drop.

Oh boi.

[Marblehead_1]

I managed to finish Ibuki grind. Luckly due to PR Blueprints number I was able to get her in same day to ther dev lvl 14 and close to the 15. So I hope she will be useful after little leveling. Next will be Izumo and her thighs scare me as same as Monarch's  but this horns are just disguisting. Is there any purpose of leveling "Specialized Armor" skill of Izumo because it seems to me as very detrimental to her in most maps. Is it noobtrap?

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3 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

https://www.reddit.com/r/kancolle/comments/e19ldi/news_new_ship_northampton_class_heavy_cruiser/

 

Houston is apparently going to be a map drop.

Oh boi.

I'm really curious about rest of the 5 ships ( it will be 6 ships introduced right? ) Pls Tanaka, not another DE or trophy IJN DD please 

[LastButterfly]

27 minutes ago, Marblehead_1 said:

Pls Tanaka, not another [...] trophy IJN DD please

 

 

Gngngngngngn.

There are still plenty we're missing.

[Marblehead_1]

10 minutes ago, LastButterfly said:

 

 

Gngngngngngn.

There are still plenty we're missing.

I really could understand one famous DE ( Mikura which sunk famous USN submarine, Okinawa which sunk 2 USN submarines, P-102 which was captured USN DD which participated in sinking of USS Harder ect. ) from time to time but not case like Spring 19 where DE's were 2/5 from new ships. I'm using 4 DE's and only on 1-5 and they didn't have more usefullnes. That's only all.

 

USS Houston as drop in Normal Event Maps so Something Bigger will be EO Reward? Right?

[LastButterfly]

8 minutes ago, Marblehead_1 said:

P-102

PB-102 you mean right ? I mean it is a japanese designation so it's approximated either way, but still it's short for Patrol Boat and I don't remember seeing just P-XXX being ever used to designate Stewart (or any japanese patrol boat).

 

Either way, yeah, but it ain't about usefulness. It's about having the IJN DDs we don't have already ! <3

Moar japanese loliboat is never a bad thing >.<

[Marblehead_1]

43 minutes ago, LastButterfly said:

PB-102 you mean right ? I mean it is a japanese designation so it's approximated either way, but still it's short for Patrol Boat and I don't remember seeing just P-XXX being ever used to designate Stewart (or any japanese patrol boat).

 

Either way, yeah, but it ain't about usefulness. It's about having the IJN DDs we don't have already ! <3

Moar japanese loliboat is never a bad thing >.<

P-102 named this ship one of modellers companys which made model of this warship https://www.super-hobby.co.uk/products/P-102-ex-USS-Stewart-japonski-patrolowiec.html  also it's one of translation of name of this warship in my country language. There were few more ships with similar history like Dutch destroyer Banckert or even one British destroyer HMS Thracian which survived WWII as I remember. I think size of this Patrol Boat which were big escorts and ASW warships are closer in this form to the Kaibokan than full destroyer especially when they lost torpedo tubes.

[Panocek]

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[Marblehead_1]

2 hours ago, Panocek said:

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Normally I'm not interested into collab ships because it's rarely hit my likings but interesting did this Polaris Event ships are also count for PR grind ( especially Gascogne Muse for Gascogne ) and tech points. If not then I'm rather not have problems with cubes.

 

Also choice of Polaris girlsband members is strange for me. At least they could find characters with some reference to the music even in form of patrons of warship names like Jamaica - country of Reagge, she even had black beret like Peter Tosh, Leipzig - city of J.S.Bach ( my only 19 point capitain for DKM BB's has original name Karl Richter as this famous conductor, organist and harpsichordist ) and R.Wagner, Friedrich der Grosse - Prussian king which was also recognized flutenist ( I can imagine how it will be exploited in case of AL FdG ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ), composer and friend of J.S.Bach, West Virginia - county meme song. 

[LastButterfly]

2 hours ago, Marblehead_1 said:

P-102 named this ship one of modellers companys which made model of this warship https://www.super-hobby.co.uk/products/P-102-ex-USS-Stewart-japonski-patrolowiec.html  also it's one of translation of name of this warship in my country language. There were few more ships with similar history like Dutch destroyer Banckert or even one British destroyer HMS Thracian which survived WWII as I remember. I think size of this Patrol Boat which were big escorts and ASW warships are closer in this form to the Kaibokan than full destroyer especially when they lost torpedo tubes.

 

Well, like I said, it's a question of approximations. Since it's a japanese designation we should technically refer to it as 第百二号哨戒艇 which litterally means Patrol Boat Number 102, but unless you're fluent in japanese (and I'm not) you can't even begin to read that.

 

I've written an paragraph once with how the classification of Kaibokan could or should be inserted within the US classification but to put it simply I'm not sure these converted captured vessels could really fall with the Kaibokans which are closer to patrol frigates than anything else.
The US do have a designation for "destroyer converted for escort purposes and particularly anti-submarine warfare" - that would be DDE (Escort Destroyer) not to be mistaken with DE (Destroyer Escort, later Ocean Escort, comprising purpose-built escorts such as the Cannon and John C. Butler classes). But DDE was mostly used for very modern vessels pertaining to the Sumner/Gearing and Fletcher classes, and even though the concept is very similar, PB-102 and the likes ended up with classifications very close to that of DEs (in displacement, armamement, limited or lacking torpedoes, and use case).
They're something like a Matsu used as a kaibokan. I don't think there's an easy answer for what we should classify them as.

 

The joys of classification. I love this subject.

[Marblehead_1]

6 minutes ago, LastButterfly said:

 

Well, like I said, it's a question of approximations. Since it's a japanese designation we should technically refer to it as 第百二号哨戒艇 which litterally means Patrol Boat Number 102, but unless you're fluent in japanese (and I'm not) you can't even begin to read that.

 

I've written an paragraph once with how the classification of Kaibokan could or should be inserted within the US classification but to put it simply I'm not sure these converted captured vessels could really fall with the Kaibokans which are closer to patrol frigates than anything else.
The US do have a designation for "destroyer converted for escort purposes and particularly anti-submarine warfare" - that would be DDE (Escort Destroyer) not to be mistaken with DE (Destroyer Escort, later Ocean Escort, comprising purpose-built escorts such as the Cannon and John C. Butler classes). But DDE was mostly used for very modern vessels pertaining to the Sumner/Gearing and Fletcher classes, and even though the concept is very similar, PB-102 and the likes ended up with classifications very close to that of DEs (in displacement, armamement, limited or lacking torpedoes, and use case).
They're something like a Matsu used as a kaibokan. I don't think there's an easy answer for what we should classify them as.

 

The joys of classification. I love this subject.

Oh yes, classification is sometimes very strange. Buckley class was Destroyer Escort but Capitain class ( Buckley class in RN but without torpedo tubes ) were frigates. From other hand most Kaibokans were smaller than Destroyer Escorts and Patrol Frigates but have similar displacement to the Flower class corvette ( Gabbiano class have displacement close to the C and D classes ) with better artillery armament ( 2-3*120mm vs 1*102mm ) and many different AA setups. Matsu class as I remember were still classified as DD's.

 

Anyway I agree that DE shortcut is wrong in KanColle and DE's - Samuel B. Roberts in game is just slow DD.

[LastButterfly]

6 minutes ago, Marblehead_1 said:

Oh yes, classification is sometimes very strange. Buckley class was Destroyer Escort but Capitain class ( Buckley class in RN but without torpedo tubes ) were frigates.

 

Yeah but that's because of the confusion between international classifications. People wouldn't dare mistake "Cacciatorpidiniere" and "Zerstörer" because they're in two different languages ; but they see UK and US both use Frigate and assume it's the same thing because the two countries use the same language.

UK frigates were largers than their escorts, such as the Hunt class, but that wasn't the case in the US. The same word designates completely different things. I think Frigate and Corvette are the two most confusing designation around this time because their meaning could DRASTICALLY change withing a few years or a few dozen kilometers.

 

Either way, I came to the conclusion that Kaibokans were closer to Patrol Frigates in shape and role. This leaves, in Japan, the Matsu class (classified under the same designation as all other destroyers, Kuchikukan if memory serves) as the equivalent of US DEs But I can't translate that in British designation for you, I know these less and I tend to translate all that I can in American designations, or in a makeshift system based on the US one when I need a more detailes system (to differentiate things such as fleet destroyers from destroyer leaders from small cruisers from scout cruisers from AA light cruisers).

 

As for SammyB's Kancolle designation, welp, the best would be to create a DE class in Kancolle (a game that has specific designations for Fast BBs and Torpedo CLs should be able to do that hu -.-) but either way it's smarter to classify her as DD rather than Kaibokan-like, since she's much closer to a full-fledged DD.

 

This allows me to once again point out that there isn't a single Matsu or Tachibana class vessel in Kancolle and that's a great sham and please someone warn me whenever they add one thankyou~

[Marblehead_1]

For Matsu class there is also case of very strong torpedo armament which in so powerful form wasn't used on other Destroyers Escorts. Hunt class was in first batches built without torpedo tubes.

 

About classification there were more interesting warships like Panzerschiffe's from Deutschland class and Tsukuba/Kurama armored cruisers. Panzerschiffe ( armored warship ) later was reclassified as heavy cruiser and Tsukuba and Kurama were reclassified as battlecruisers. Panzerschiffe was as I remember term to describe steel armored warships from XIX century strongly unadequate in 30's of XX century ( nobody tell me that USS Monitor or CSS Virginia were similar to the AGS beyond main material used in shipyard) and Tsukuba/Kurama were strange hybrid of armament of pre-dreadnought and semi dreadnought battleship ( Ibuki and Kurama had 305m and 203mm main battery like some semi dreadnoughts armed with 2*II 305mm + 203-254mm guns ) with armored cruiser hull. Deutschland class has more similarities with battlecruiser, armored cruiser or maybe even with large cruisers ( which was later term ) or maybe its strange hybrid of all of them? This is even more interesting than IJN Kaibokans ( btw there were also 100% obsolete ex russian Coast Defence Battleships armed with 3-4 254mm guns, which were similar to the Ukuru or Okinawa in same way as USS Monitor to the AGS or frigates from Napoleonic wars with WWII Capitain class, but it's normal when one name of class is used during centuries ) Yes, this is nice to discuss! 

 

I much more prefer in naval history period 1880-1918 - there was so many interesting constructions but unfortunately in WoWs is so much neglected although there were so many interesting designs.

[LastButterfly]

@Marblehead_1

Yeah but that's the japanese doctrine, any vessel that wasn't meant to patrol waters too shallow to correctly use a torpedo in had to have torpedoes. They stuck it on even the smallest vessel, and it doesn't really change the point of the class.

 

I'd love to discuss one of the most debated and debatable designation of the universe - battlecruiser, in terms of confusion it's up there with the destroyer leader and scout cruiser - but maybe we should switch to private messages first or we're gonna clog this topic.

 

I much prefer the naval era between 1920 and 1950 and I can't really talk at all of things that came prior to the XXth century. my era of predilection may not be neglected by WoWs, but it's butchered instead, so I'm not sure it's any better. Either way, at least we complete one another ^^".

 

 

Hey you ! Yes YOU ! Behind the screen ! You look like you don't appreciate Best Ship enough. Correct that !

 

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[Marblehead_1]

5 minutes ago, LastButterfly said:

@Marblehead_1

Yeah but that's the japanese doctrine, any vessel that wasn't meant to patrol waters too shallow to correctly use a torpedo in had to have torpedoes. They stuck it on even the smallest vessel, and it doesn't really change the point of the class.

 

I'd love to discuss one of the most debated and debatable designation of the universe - battlecruiser, in terms of confusion it's up there with the destroyer leader and scout cruiser - but maybe we should switch to private messages first or we're gonna clog this topic.

 

I much prefer the naval era between 1920 and 1950 and I can't really talk at all of things that came prior to the XXth century. my era of predilection may not be neglected by WoWs, but it's butchered instead, so I'm not sure it's any better. Either way, at least we complete one another ^^".

 

 

Hey you ! Yes YOU ! Behind the screen ! You look like you don't appreciate Best Ship enough. Correct that !

 

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This off-topic is in off-topic in off-topic about cute anime girls so no off-topic is impossible ( logic or rather lack of logic in this sentence is purposeful )

 

 

I like Fubuki, but mainly due to the The Movie than due to anime which was inconsistent - I would prefer more warfare than slice of life element. 

 

Favourite characters from KC? I would rather say that will be from each class. From DD's Hayashimo because she is great example how to present tragedy and horrors of war in teenage girl, From CL's Natori due to her peaceful personality ( and how her one line is responsing to the fate of some survivors which drifted for about month until rescue ), from (F)BB/(V)'s it will be for sure Ise K2 and Yamashiro, Ise K2 and Hyuuga due to their attitude ( energical Ise and a little bit cynical Hyuuga ) and Yamashiro due to Surigao Strait Battle. From CV's Taihou due to her melancholical side, Zuihou for her energy and from auxiliaries 

 

What it's most funny I dislike most of so called "married" warships ( it's only strong battleships with high consumption of resources ) with exception of  Ise K2 ( she seems to be very attractive in her K2 form, strange that she didn't have too much arts, this normal and R-18 too )