Favorite shipgirl (Kancolle,Azur lane, Arpeggio of blue steel,Haifuri)

[Herrscher_Elysia]

3 hours ago, Panocek said:

 

Not sure if true, but they do make some monies

So around average 1 to 1.5 mil a week?!

[CptBarney]

Well played warthunder naval forces, as soon as i get into a game with my 1.3 british toineh boat thing, i get bombed by some s*ht in a Devestator, had another two games before i gave up. Tried planes and tanks, teams in both were equally useless. dont even know why i bother playing that game, could never get a grip with its mechanics.

 

Also a new events coming on apur lane? hmm?

 

[Panocek]

21 minutes ago, IJN_Kitakami said:

So around average 1 to 1.5 mil a week?!

Dunno, but I guess it works.

 

16 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

Well played warthunder naval forces, as soon as i get into a game with my 1.3 british toineh boat thing, i get bombed by some s*ht in a Devestator, had another two games before i gave up. Tried planes and tanks, teams in both were equally useless. dont even know why i bother playing that game, could never get a grip with its mechanics.

 

Also a new events coming on apur lane? hmm?

 

Some mini event with subs in construction, otherwise Baguette themed event just ended.

 

And do you not appreciate carrier free gameplay in Wank Thunder? 

 

Planes, be it arcade or RB is pretty much all about getting altitude advantage, or in case of bombers, yolo in and drop payload before you're intercepted. If you get an idea to climb to 7km+ in bomber, either game will end or you will be intercepted anyway. And considering Air Supremacy (or was it domination?) was short lived game mode you don't get many opportunities to win games as fighter player

[CptBarney]

21 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Dunno, but I guess it works.

 

Some mini event with subs in construction, otherwise Baguette themed event just ended.

Fair enough. Might reinstall azur lanu at some point this month.

 

21 minutes ago, Panocek said:

And do you not appreciate carrier free gameplay in Wank Thunder? 

No meh toineh botue got rekt by 'fun and engaging' mechanics.

 

21 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Planes, be it arcade or RB is pretty much all about getting altitude advantage, or in case of bombers, yolo in and drop payload before you're intercepted. If you get an idea to climb to 7km+ in bomber, either game will end or you will be intercepted anyway. And considering Air Supremacy (or was it domination?) was short lived game mode you don't get many opportunities to win games as fighter player

I have planes all the way up to 3.7 br (British) and the nations i've gone for so far are (British, USSR, Murica and Japan) havent tried french, german or italian yet. I dont bother with RB because it takes too long and the whole climb for ten mins then die doesnt appeal to me.

 

Arcade tanks is dumb with how if you spot something you get spotted and maps are too bloody smoll for fat TD's to hide in bushes half the time. RB is ok but still, people seem to quickscope you from half way across the map.

[Panocek]

2 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

No meh toineh botue got rekt by 'fun and engaging' mechanics.

Wank Thunder is all about fun and engaging mechanics

 

2 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

I have planes all the way up to 3.7 br (British) and the nations i've gone for so far are (British, USSR, Murica and Japan) havent tried french, german or italian yet. I dont bother with RB because it takes too long and the whole climb for ten mins then die doesnt appeal to me.

 

Arcade tanks is dumb with how if you spot something you get spotted and maps are too bloody smoll for fat TD's to hide in bushes half the time. RB is ok but still, people seem to quickscope you from half way across the map.

And there is no gold at the end of grind rainbow, while I'd say 4.0BR is/used to be the most balanced BR in game, with plenty of fun planes. Including extra balans La-7

Spotting in tanks relies more on standard issue, mark 1, eyeball than in game spotting thingy, thus you can have noice graphics or you can have fun. Not exactly both

[CptBarney]

1 minute ago, Panocek said:

Wank Thunder is all about fun and engaging mechanics

 

And there is no gold at the end of grind rainbow, while I'd say 4.0BR is/used to be the most balanced BR in game, with plenty of fun planes. Including extra balans La-7

Spotting in tanks relies more on standard issue, mark 1, eyeball than in game spotting thingy, thus you can have noice graphics or you can have fun. Not exactly both

Tiger H1 got moved to br 5.3 but E varient is still at 5.7 because reasons lol.

 

Yeah using dem eyeballs helps and binos, Russians at low B.R seem teh best for learning RB too be honest, tried RB in panthers and went as well as you expect lol.

[Panocek]

22 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

Tiger H1 got moved to br 5.3 but E varient is still at 5.7 because reasons lol.

Never underestimate power of reasons 

 

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azur pls

 

[CptBarney]

 

Also this is a thing on there but not on azur lane for some reason.

[Nechrom]

Manjuu is leaning into the memes and added a bunch of Seseren's gifs as emotes in the latest update, including my avatar. 

[Herrscher_Elysia]

9 hours ago, Nechrom said:

Manjuu is leaning into the memes and added a bunch of Seseren's gifs as emotes in the latest update, including my avatar. 

Seseren's gif are gift from the divine order of shipgirl. 

[HaachamaShipping]

London retro was announced.

 

Also, isn't it nice to see a game where the RN is treated like the naval powerhouse it was?

[LastButterfly]

1 hour ago, Cagliostro_chan said:

Also, isn't it nice to see a game where the RN is treated like the naval powerhouse it was?

 

You should wake up, the 19th century has been over for a while xD

[HaachamaShipping]

Just now, LastButterfly said:

 

You should wake up, the 19th century has been over for a while xD

I mean, it went downhill after the first half of the 20th century.

[LastButterfly]

1 minute ago, Cagliostro_chan said:

I mean, it went downhill after the first half of the 20th century.

 

No, I'd say it went downhill in the late 20s and plunged in the 30s.

[CptBarney]

3 hours ago, LastButterfly said:

 

No, I'd say it went downhill in the late 20s and plunged in the 30s.

Not really otherwise nazi germany would of been able to invade the uk via sea and air. And operation lion-whatever would of been a success to some degree.

[LOZFFVII]

4 hours ago, LastButterfly said:

No, I'd say it went downhill in the late 20s and plunged in the 30s.

Being a Brit, as much as I hate to admit it, I agree with you - although I'd put the fall from grace a little bit earlier; with the construction of Dreadnaught.

As impressive as making everything else obsolete overnight is, the problem with making everything obsolete is you essentially level the playing field. Once we brought out a ship that became the new benchmark, everyone knew they were basing their ships on that and not anything else, giving them a chance to catch up to what we had.

Then, as much as the Washington Naval Treaty made sense at the time, enacting it didn't just stifle everyone else's growth, it stifled our own (and essentially gave a head start to the Japanese, who started openly defying the treaty within a couple decades of signing it).

50 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

Not really otherwise nazi germany would of been able to invade the uk via sea and air. And operation lion-whatever would of been a success to some degree.

Nazi Germany was unable to beat our already weakened Naval power because they, too, were heavily restricted by the Washington Naval Treaty - they were barely even allowed a fleet!

Three battleships (that were primarily designed as commerce raiders) ain't gonna cut it against eight (off the top of my head; Scharn, Gneis and Bis versus QE, Warspite, KGV, POW, DOY, Nelson, Rodney and Hood). Not to mention Operation Sealion required air superiority in addition to sea, and the Luftwaffe just couldn't make any headway against the RAF. I'm not even going to count the difference in aircraft carrier numbers.

In any case, after the loss of all three active battleships (and Tirpitz being permanently docked) Hitler threw a hissy fit, chucked all his toys out of the pram and decided to focus his industry on U-boats and fighting the Russians (and only one of those two things actually had even marginal success).

I love when wehraboos suggest that Nazi Germany's naval power was a credible threat, when Biscuits got ed by outdated biplanes (which, it has been stated elsewhere, was partly down to a fault in her design having three propellers and two rudders).

In short: whereas we were in a bad state financially and militarily, Germany was worse.

[CptBarney]

30 minutes ago, Captain_LOZFFVII said:

Being a Brit, as much as I hate to admit it, I agree with you - although I'd put the fall from grace a little bit earlier; with the construction of Dreadnaught.

As impressive as making everything else obsolete overnight is, the problem with making everything obsolete is you essentially level the playing field. Once we brought out a ship that became the new benchmark, everyone knew they were basing their ships on that and not anything else, giving them a chance to catch up to what we had.

Then, as much as the Washington Naval Treaty made sense at the time, enacting it didn't just stifle everyone else's growth, it stifled our own (and essentially gave a head start to the Japanese, who started openly defying the treaty within a couple decades of signing it).

Nazi Germany was unable to beat our already weakened Naval power because they, too, were heavily restricted by the Washington Naval Treaty - they were barely even allowed a fleet!

Three battleships (that were primarily designed as commerce raiders) ain't gonna cut it against eight (off the top of my head; Scharn, Gneis and Bis versus QE, Warspite, KGV, POW, DOY, Nelson, Rodney and Hood). Not to mention Operation Sealion required air superiority in addition to sea, and the Luftwaffe just couldn't make any headway against the RAF. I'm not even going to count the difference in aircraft carrier numbers.

In any case, after the loss of all three active battleships (and Tirpitz being permanently docked) Hitler threw a hissy fit, chucked all his toys out of the pram and decided to focus his industry on U-boats and fighting the Russians (and only one of those two things actually had even marginal success).

I love when wehraboos suggest that Nazi Germany's naval power was a credible threat, when Biscuits got ed by outdated biplanes (which, it has been stated elsewhere, was partly down to a fault in her design having three propellers and two rudders).

In short: whereas we were in a bad state financially and militarily, Germany was worse.

 

How come they never kept some of the other dreadnought or pre-dreadnought ships as museum ships? I know about mikasa but i assumed some or a few would of been guranteed immortality through history and learning.

[MK1D]

4 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

 

How come they never kept some of the other dreadnought or pre-dreadnought ships as museum ships? I know about mikasa but i assumed some or a few would of been guranteed immortality through history and learning.

Pre-dreadnoughts in major navies were usually scrapped to make more dreadnoughts and the only still existing dreadnought is Texas simply cuz it's so freaking expensive to keep such a rusting hunk of metal afloat.

[ErwinScarlett]

1 hour ago, CptBarney said:

Not really otherwise nazi germany would of been able to invade the uk via sea and air. And operation lion-whatever would of been a success to some degree.

No, operation sealion can not success even nazi germany have full air-control and enough U-boots at English Channel to force royal navy can not into the channel to intercept the landing fleet. The main reason is that nazi germany just don't have enough landing ship.If nazi want land enough land force, I think they must use their all civil ships even bathtub to cross the channel.

[ErwinScarlett]

22 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

 

How come they never kept some of the other dreadnought or pre-dreadnought ships as museum ships? I know about mikasa but i assumed some or a few would of been guranteed immortality through history and learning.

There is one rebuilt pre-dreadnougt in China as museum ship.

[HaachamaShipping]

7 hours ago, Captain_LOZFFVII said:

Being a Brit, as much as I hate to admit it, I agree with you - although I'd put the fall from grace a little bit earlier; with the construction of Dreadnaught.

As impressive as making everything else obsolete overnight is, the problem with making everything obsolete is you essentially level the playing field. Once we brought out a ship that became the new benchmark, everyone knew they were basing their ships on that and not anything else, giving them a chance to catch up to what we had.

That's neglecting something else though: Dreadnought, while it of course makes Britain lose out compared to others, is a revolution in battleship design that would be adopted by someone at some point inevitably. Britain not being the first to make the step and just continue merrily building pre-dreadnoughts would merely increase the amount of resources made obsolete once the inevitable happens. It's like saying the HMS Warrior was a stupid idea, because it destroyed the British edge in wooden ships-of-the-line. And for all the "levelling the playing field", the British did manage to build enough new battleships to still be a major navy till the end of WWII.

7 hours ago, Captain_LOZFFVII said:

Nazi Germany was unable to beat our already weakened Naval power because they, too, were heavily restricted by the Washington Naval Treaty - they were barely even allowed a fleet!

Nazi Germany was not a party to the Washington Naval Treaty and the only time they were in some way connected to it was the Anglo-German Naval treaty that limited Germany to a certain ratio relative to the British, which were party to the treaty. But ships like the Deutschland-class built during the Weimar Republic are so clearly beyond the WNT, it is clear that the Germans never gave a damn about it. Only the Treaty of Versailles limited the Germans, but Hitler threw that out of the window.

7 hours ago, Captain_LOZFFVII said:

Three battleships (that were primarily designed as commerce raiders) ain't gonna cut it against eight (off the top of my head; Scharn, Gneis and Bis versus QE, Warspite, KGV, POW, DOY, Nelson, Rodney and Hood). Not to mention Operation Sealion required air superiority in addition to sea, and the Luftwaffe just couldn't make any headway against the RAF. I'm not even going to count the difference in aircraft carrier numbers.

Tirpitz? Anson? Howe? Barham? Malaya? Valiant?

7 hours ago, Captain_LOZFFVII said:

In short: whereas we were in a bad state financially and militarily, Germany was worse.

The sole country to rival the UK in naval power at that time without being in a troublesome state financially was the US, which due to WNT still was tied to parity with the UK. Japan was 60% and even when not restricted would financially ruin itself trying to get even close to it. France and italy are not even close. So, for all intents and purposes, the British very much were able to enshrine their naval power with the WNT till the 30s and only got beaten by the US afterwards.

 

Overall, it should however be clear that until the post-war era, the Royal Navy was one of the major players on the seas only rivalled by the US. To deny that it was a major naval power well into the 20th century is kind of silly. I mean, what else is there? Japan, France and Italy, all which were in even poorer shape, Germany and Russia that were both starting to build up a navy from barely anything.

7 hours ago, Captain_LOZFFVII said:

Then, as much as the Washington Naval Treaty made sense at the time, enacting it didn't just stifle everyone else's growth, it stifled our own (and essentially gave a head start to the Japanese, who started openly defying the treaty within a couple decades of signing it).

The Treaty enshrined British naval parity with the US and superiority over everyone else. It stifled Britain less than it stifled more minor powers. Like, what edge did the IJN  get by defying the treaty? Yamato and Musashi? That's basically it and both ships were almost inconsequential during the war. Shokaku and Zuikaku were good carriers, but were two carriers compared to the RN's four carriers of the Illustrious-class built during the same time (and while having fewer planes, making the hull survivable can pay off). Even after leaving the treaty, Japan never really managed to get much out of it vs Britain, because frankly, their ability to build ships to reach anywhere close to parity was just not there, one of the reason why Japan had signed the treaties in the first place.

[CptBarney]

[El2aZeR]

The sisters that never met.

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[Panocek]

So I'm bumping around 6th map, gathering Roon exp with Kinkyberg sisters and this happens

Spoiler

do my purin reserves looks like they are unlimited?

introduction is quite kek tho

 

[LOZFFVII]

On 7/13/2019 at 2:08 AM, Cagliostro_chan said:

That's neglecting something else though: Dreadnought

And what actually happened to Dreadnaught, anyway? Quickly superceded, never fought in a battle and then scrapped.

So much for the ship that made everything obsolete overnight...

On 7/13/2019 at 2:08 AM, Cagliostro_chan said:

Nazi Germany was not a party to the Washington Naval Treaty and the only time they were in some way connected to it was the Anglo-German Naval treaty that limited Germany to a certain ratio relative to the British, which were party to the treaty. But ships like the Deutschland-class built during the Weimar Republic are so clearly beyond the WNT, it is clear that the Germans never gave a damn about it. Only the Treaty of Versailles limited the Germans, but Hitler threw that out of the window.

Yes, I'm sure you're right (it's 2am and my brain no research right now).

However, you kinda just proved my point? Germany disregarded their naval restrictions and they still had no chance of success. Even against our own stifled and restricted navy.

On 7/13/2019 at 2:08 AM, Cagliostro_chan said:

Tirpitz?

Didn't count her, as Bismarck was sunk before she was even launched. In fact the Germans had to quickly redesign parts of her to try and avoid having the same fate as Bismarck (well, she managed to avoid having the same fate anyway...).

On 7/13/2019 at 2:08 AM, Cagliostro_chan said:

Anson? Howe? Barham? Malaya? Valiant?

All of them British...so Germany had even less of a chance. The only thing you proved is that I don't really know many RN BBs. *shrugs*

Also, checking Wikipedia it says Anson and Howe weren't commisioned until 1942 (Bismarck was sunk in May 1941), so like with Tirptiz above, I wouldn't count them for my example.

(Wikipeia-sensei says:) Barham, Malaya and Valiant were all WWI relics, just like QE and Warspite, so hardly a modern fleet (we can thank the WNT for that).

On 7/13/2019 at 2:08 AM, Cagliostro_chan said:

The sole country to rival the UK in naval power at that time without being in a troublesome state financially was the US

Right...and my original point was we went from being the naval power to being one of the naval powers as a result of Dreadnaught and the WNT.

By saying that we had a rival you basically proved my point.

 

I wasn't saying we suddenly became really bad, but the fall from grace can certainly be traced back to Dreadnaught and the WNT.

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14 hours ago, Panocek said:

So I'm bumping around 6th map, gathering Roon exp with Kinkyberg sisters and this happens

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do my purin reserves looks like they are unlimited?

introduction is quite kek tho

 

You know I've been grinding 6-4 for two months now, with no poi to show for it?