[B000M] Charger76 Players 149 posts 29,900 battles Report post #1 Posted October 11, 2016 Here is an AMAZING IDEA for sucess in ranked battles: SHOOT RADAR SHIPS FIRST, SECOND, THIRD, FORTH, FIFTH, SIXTH. In fact, shoot them even if your wife is driving in one and you fear being consigned to the couch for the night. If you have any doubt about what to shoot, shoot the radar ships. I dont care if there is an Amagi side on begging for a slap, shoot the radar ship. If there is a Chapyev with a ridiculous 12Km radar then shoot him like he just molested your mother with a very large cucumber doused in Deep Heat. Thats it folks. Shoot the radar ships then your DD's can cap, they can lay smoke for you that is worth something and on top of all this, there will be one less ship setting you on fire all game. If a very mediocre player like me can work that out, why the hell is everyone struggling with it? If you are in a Battleship you have 30 seconds to reload. Look up from your guns, take in the sights and if you have even a remote chance of hitting a radar ship, do it! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waxx25 Players 1,296 posts 11,488 battles Report post #2 Posted October 11, 2016 Tell the forum where the radar ship touched you. 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warspite666 ∞ Beta Tester 172 posts 5,971 battles Report post #3 Posted October 11, 2016 I think it was the citadel your honour....."points to picture of victim" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Kenliero Players 2,478 posts 11,195 battles Report post #4 Posted October 11, 2016 Hands of my Chapa. Don't touch my Chapa. My Chapa harmless. My Chapa Apple Chapa Pineapple Chapa Pen. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XbodzioXplX Players 6,008 posts 7,043 battles Report post #5 Posted October 11, 2016 You miss the point in battles. I would say you even want to kill logic. You MUST kill what you can kill fast. DDs are fast and nimble so it is hard to hit. (while good players know that DDs are the TOP target). BBs are big and armoured so why bother. CA is 2-3 good salvos. And man... Radar ships are even more must-kill ships because they can hurt your DDs. So again. Use your brain and think about strategy. Why you often die. Then change your gamestyle. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #6 Posted October 11, 2016 Save BB for last usually, even the lol pls nerf Bismarck is nothing without support. Radar is fairly easy to prepare for, look at the enemy line up and don't get as close until your BB have nuked your molester... Once dead it's back to normal service. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #7 Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) If we'd nerf every ship that touches players in ranked in an inappropriate manner there wouldn't be much left of tier 8 as we know it - that's the biggest hint I take from the recent whine posts. If a very mediocre player like me can work that out, why the hell is everyone struggling with it? Edited October 11, 2016 by aboomination 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] Shaka_D Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 3,691 posts 15,960 battles Report post #8 Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) Here is an AMAZING IDEA for sucess in ranked battles: SHOOT RADAR SHIPS FIRST, SECOND, THIRD, FORTH, FIFTH, SIXTH. In fact, shoot them even if your wife is driving in one and you fear being consigned to the couch for the night. If you have any doubt about what to shoot, shoot the radar ships. I dont care if there is an Amagi side on begging for a slap, shoot the radar ship. If there is a Chapyev with a ridiculous 12Km radar then shoot him like he just molested your mother with a very large cucumber doused in Deep Heat. Thats it folks. Shoot the radar ships then your DD's can cap, they can lay smoke for you that is worth something and on top of all this, there will be one less ship setting you on fire all game. If a very mediocre player like me can work that out, why the hell is everyone struggling with it? If you are in a Battleship you have 30 seconds to reload. Look up from your guns, take in the sights and if you have even a remote chance of hitting a radar ship, do it! Sad little DD player got touched by radar. Learn to play differently you torp fiend. What's your cure for the current plague of BB's in the game then? Edited October 11, 2016 by Shaka_D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
passwordistooshort Players 0 posts 115 battles Report post #9 Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) i feel sorry for your loss Edit:He is not complaining about radar.He is complaining about sh1theads who cant shoot radar cruisers even if they are broadside to them at 7km holding a sign that says : Please shoot,free citadels" Edited October 11, 2016 by passwordistooshort 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EW_YK] Barkyro Players 439 posts 13,829 battles Report post #10 Posted October 11, 2016 Really , like really? As a DD player I do not agree with you. You should be able to deal with the huge amount of 30 seconds of radar on the Chappy and the 40 sec (might be wrong) on the NO.True taking out the cruisers first is a really good idea for BB's but for a whole other reason than covering your [edited]when you should be able to deal with it ;) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Mayv Players 1,952 posts 7,021 battles Report post #11 Posted October 11, 2016 Guys I think you are missing the point. He isn't complaining about radar being OP, but players not shooting the radar ships in ranked so DDs can do things like cap and provide cover with smoke. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EW_YK] Barkyro Players 439 posts 13,829 battles Report post #12 Posted October 11, 2016 I got his point and I agree cruisers in general should be first targets but not because of radar. It is really not that much of a bother and you can still cap and stuff. Even if 2 cruisers link there radar you still have 2 mins to cap and keep them spotted. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #13 Posted October 11, 2016 Cruisers are the main target most of the time anyway - if no DD makes a good target of himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Ubertron_X [NWP] Beta Tester 2,657 posts 25,762 battles Report post #14 Posted October 11, 2016 Biggest tip for success in ranked: Have a DD player in your team who knows how to deal with radar equipped CAs, even when on his own. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
passwordistooshort Players 0 posts 115 battles Report post #15 Posted October 11, 2016 but for a whole other reason than covering your [edited]when you should be able to deal with it ;) Apologies to OP but i am gonna derail the thread for a while@Barkyro : Wanna elaborate on how i can reliably be able to deal with radar? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azrael_Ashemdion Beta Tester 360 posts 17,480 battles Report post #16 Posted October 11, 2016 I got his point and I agree cruisers in general should be first targets but not because of radar. It is really not that much of a bother and you can still cap and stuff. Even if 2 cruisers link there radar you still have 2 mins to cap and keep them spotted. This. If you can't shoot a DD, everyone should be killing cruisers. Taking their guns out of the game is the most cost-effective application of firepower you can pick. Weak armor, no heals (outside of Atago), and high DPM? That begs for a good killing. Az Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedStorm1 Players 434 posts 8,874 battles Report post #17 Posted October 11, 2016 So, Bismarck is weak! (Lousy radar range). I knew it all the time!!!! A bit too "graphic" for my taste but, nice post! Yeah, the Chapas are first rate target! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Mayv Players 1,952 posts 7,021 battles Report post #18 Posted October 11, 2016 Biggest tip for success in ranked: Have a DD player in your team who knows how to deal with radar equipped CAs, even when on his own. Stay 12km away from them where you can't influence the game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Ubertron_X [NWP] Beta Tester 2,657 posts 25,762 battles Report post #19 Posted October 11, 2016 Stay 12km away from them where you can't influence the game? Thinking more along the lines of 'learning how to survive his 20 seconds of fame'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EW_YK] Barkyro Players 439 posts 13,829 battles Report post #20 Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) @Password.always when in smoke be in a position to retreat and have your speed boost ready. When the detected sign with either radar or hydro pops up just move forward activate your boost and dodge. Edit: doing that you will also be able do easily dodge smoke torps as well in most cases but enough tips for today. Radar has been in game for some months now and if you play DD's regularly you should be used to dealing with it. Edited October 11, 2016 by Barkyro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #21 Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) Stay 12km away from them where you can't influence the game? Or just using hard cover will do the trick. Edited October 11, 2016 by aboomination Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
passwordistooshort Players 0 posts 115 battles Report post #22 Posted October 11, 2016 But still its not reliable!You cannot apply this on caps without cover and thats where my question was mainly pointed at!What you said is obviously true but again,even on scenarios with cover islands sometimes you cannot help it ,mostly because of the reds flanking the cap from 2 sides so you will get shot from somewhere.I have been playing the benson for a week,working on improving my positioning and damage and training my captain for the 15th skill point so i am not the most qualified to provide proper counter-arguments here.But what i can say from my so far experience is :If for whatever reason you get spotted by radar/hydro you are gonna loose at least 30% of your hp most of the times.You can still be aggressive with 70% hp and outfight enemy dds but eventually,just because that radar ship wasnt taken care of early on , you are forced to a more passive play that doesnt benefit you and your team.And that's my,and i guess OPs,problem! Another problem is that if you try from the beginning to play passive,all the team will go passive.And you loose before you start.So,to my understanding,i need to be aggresive and i need them to take care of radar/hydro ships the moment they are spotted! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EW_YK] Barkyro Players 439 posts 13,829 battles Report post #23 Posted October 11, 2016 Mmm so and so... I assume you already know what ships have radar and there respective ranges. Trying to stay out of radar is just crap especially in ranked because you will have the scenario described by you happening so as you said you need to be aggressive but in doing so you will most likely be radared at some point and that's where your ship maneuvering skills come into play. The benson is a really maneuverable ship and that means you can reliably dodge most stuff. Trick to this is forget about fighting back those few seconds and just focus on getting out of radar range or dodging until it finishes. Hopefully by the time this happens the rest of your team is shooting at the ship that is lighting you up given the fact it should be the closest target but again that is just circumstantial. Hope this helps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LetsRockAndRoll Players 720 posts 9,732 battles Report post #24 Posted October 11, 2016 Shoot the radar ships? I'd be happy if my ranked teams would actually get into range to effectively shoot anything! Logged out after I got into a team with 2 HE shooting Tirpititz, both of them had SE!!!!!!! Sorry, rant over, back on topic. Mmm so and so... I assume you already know what ships have radar and there respective ranges. Trying to stay out of radar is just crap especially in ranked because you will have the scenario described by you happening so as you said you need to be aggressive but in doing so you will most likely be radared at some point and that's where your ship maneuvering skills come into play. The benson is a really maneuverable ship and that means you can reliably dodge most stuff. Trick to this is forget about fighting back those few seconds and just focus on getting out of radar range or dodging until it finishes. Hopefully by the time this happens the rest of your team is shooting at the ship that is lighting you up given the fact it should be the closest target but again that is just circumstantial. Hope this helps. This ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #25 Posted October 11, 2016 Logged out after I got into a team with 2 HE shooting Tirpititz, both of them had SE!!!!!!! Only potatos play Tirpitz in ranked bc she lacks hydro 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites