[ST-EU] Trainspite Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster 1,920 posts 4,621 battles Report post #51 Posted October 7, 2016 Yeah, but there they had a ship to make into a prem, while Hood was the only one of her class. I hope you're right, but making Hood a prem wouldn't be a very surprising move on WG's part. They do have Rodney. Slayer of the Bismarck, as a potential tier 7. Market her as that, and she could sell pretty well, especially if she is released before any mention of the RN BB line. Maybe a long time down the road you could see the F2/F3 BC designs appear as a premium. Hood was the only one built, but people seem to think that it makes sense to then try and put another Admiral as a tier 7 regular, with Hood as a premium, which doesn't work really. It wouldn't surprise me, but I would be pretty disappointing in WG's double standards on making a money grab. Esp after they did not do it for Bismarck. There are plenty of other famous British BBs aside from Hood remember. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,688 battles Report post #52 Posted October 8, 2016 Look... I have found something, or maybe I should say someone, in the new "Bad Advice": Isn't she looking familiar to you guys? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mucker Players 842 posts 8,403 battles Report post #53 Posted October 8, 2016 (edited) Now that I call a proper sneek peek! WG, I'm ready to throw money at you... Edited October 8, 2016 by Mucker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Trainspite Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster 1,920 posts 4,621 battles Report post #54 Posted October 8, 2016 Look... I have found something, or maybe I should say someone, in the new "Bad Advice": Isn't she looking familiar to you guys? Yeah, that has been around for the last two of those episodes I think. However, Hood was mentioned as 'not modeled' a few months ago in a Q&A, so I doubt she is anywhere near getting into the game at the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,688 battles Report post #55 Posted October 8, 2016 Well, we can still hope that she has been modelized since... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FK] Combat_Hamster Players 438 posts 33,869 battles Report post #56 Posted October 8, 2016 i know but still thick two minutes would be ok if we would be able to control the "secondaries" (152mm) and just 5 of them on every side wouldnt make this ship op... then after 2 min you would have the extra 343mm punch...could work...i mean - this is how it worked. but wouldnt exactly fit into wg concept of battleships. but thats the problem with battleships before dreadnought Well quite accurate..the Russian idea was to use the 6" to cause fires and systems damage, the finish them off with the main guns, in Jane's 06/7 it gives the Russian 12" 1 round every 3 minutes, and the 10" 1 round every 2, still not as bad as the Italia which is 1 every 5, and your secondary gun crews have to take cover when the main guns are about to fire Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Trainspite Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster 1,920 posts 4,621 battles Report post #57 Posted October 8, 2016 Well, we can still hope that she has been modelized since... Or at least started since it takes somewhere around 6 months or so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #58 Posted October 9, 2016 They do have Rodney. Slayer of the Bismarck, as a potential tier 7. Market her as that, and she could sell pretty well, especially if she is released before any mention of the RN BB line. Maybe a long time down the road you could see the F2/F3 BC designs appear as a premium. Hood was the only one built, but people seem to think that it makes sense to then try and put another Admiral as a tier 7 regular, with Hood as a premium, which doesn't work really. It wouldn't surprise me, but I would be pretty disappointing in WG's double standards on making a money grab. Esp after they did not do it for Bismarck. There are plenty of other famous British BBs aside from Hood remember. I think WG didn't money grab for the Bismarck because they likely made an obscene amount of money already on the Tirpitz!! Plus a bet a lot of folk free XPed to the Bismarck so would have bought some dubs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_MfZ6T7iwWpUC Players 1,139 posts Report post #59 Posted October 9, 2016 Or at least started since it takes somewhere around 6 months or so. If there is to be a RN BC tree, after the BB tree, then HMS Hood would be a jewel in the crown for the BC tree. With that in mind, I wouldnt mind betting the Hood wont appear until after the BB tree. Lets face it, there are enough BB's to fill the middle tiers without Hood. So I cant see WG missing a trick with the Hood as a future BC, as demand will be massive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BABBY] StringWitch Beta Tester 1,608 posts Report post #60 Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) deleted Edited October 10, 2016 by StringWitch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Trainspite Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster 1,920 posts 4,621 battles Report post #61 Posted October 10, 2016 I think WG didn't money grab for the Bismarck because they likely made an obscene amount of money already on the Tirpitz!! Plus a bet a lot of folk free XPed to the Bismarck so would have bought some dubs. No, but the initial decision, they could have made Tirpitz the regular in the way many people seem to want a regular Anson or Howe. They would have made so much money off Bismarck it would be untrue. More than Tirpitz I would say. Based on that decision on theirs (Lead ship goes over premium), they should hold true and keep Hood for a regular role. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[H_FAN] Gnirf Players 3,293 posts 67,252 battles Report post #62 Posted October 12, 2016 not so much same as mikasa - with 457mm of belt armour would be the heaviest armored ship in the game (imagine that at low tiers)...but also the slowest 17,5 kn...also her "secondaries" are not as impressive as mikasa. but main armament 4x343mm would be rather strong on tier 2 (or wherever...) but also short ranged (10km) and inaccurate these ships have a potential. if there will be more pre-dreadnoughts and if they would be placed in proper enviroment (pre-dreadnoughts facing other pre-dreadnouts + early dreadnoughts and other contemporary stuff) + figer out the problem with multicaliber primary armament - these ships would be fun for sure: more close range brawls between bbs, more ramming with big rams... the major problem with mikasa is that she is alone. every other bb outclass her. but if there will be more ships like her...that's different story (just remember some encounters between two enemy mikasas) ...wg just have to figure out...time will show Sure but those 457 mm were of far inferior quality maybe it would be around 6-8 inch of Krupp in resistance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,688 battles Report post #63 Posted January 15, 2017 And we keep waiting.... Waiting... Well, after all this time, look like people are more attracted to the 1941, without a scout plane, version or the refit, with a scout plane. That's interresting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[JUNK] Affeks [JUNK] Beta Tester 1,934 posts 8,416 battles Report post #64 Posted January 16, 2017 1941 no doubt, just history things Now I don't want to rule out the 1942 one, but since the Admiral class might make it to a Battlecruiser line it would be much more realistic that the 1942 hull will be a B/C hull upgrade to the tech tree ship Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,688 battles Report post #65 Posted January 16, 2017 1941 no doubt, just history things Yep, the 1941 for me too. Even if I don't like the UP on the B turret. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #66 Posted January 16, 2017 Eh, seeing how they handled Mutsu might hint at a 1930s version as a premium if the 1941 is stock hull and other hulls are 1942 refit. Also means the premium can get a catapult plane and very strong secondaries, both of which are lacking in the 1941 version. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,688 battles Report post #67 Posted January 16, 2017 That's clear, the 1942 Refit might be a very good ship if added to the game. But I don't think WG will add it, or maybe in the normal branche as a regular ship... Maybe... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[JUNK] Affeks [JUNK] Beta Tester 1,934 posts 8,416 battles Report post #68 Posted January 16, 2017 Eh, seeing how they handled Mutsu might hint at a 1930s version as a premium if the 1941 is stock hull and other hulls are 1942 refit. Also means the premium can get a catapult plane and very strong secondaries, both of which are lacking in the 1941 version. Very good point comparing it too the Mutsu, but the difference between early Mutsu and late Nagato are bigger than early Hood and late Hood. Most bbs can do well without a scout plane bh, it can get another consumable instead maybe?? The secondaries are bad in both refits and I don't think Hood would be a good melee brawler anyways Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,688 battles Report post #69 Posted January 16, 2017 With her lack of secondaries, the Hood sure doesn't seem to be a good brawler... But, if we take a look at the deck armor, we can only think about one thing. You'll need to get close and personnal with the ennemy, if you don't want to remake History and go Kaboom! So, yeah, we have and strange and interesting ship. I really wonder what WG will give us for her. Another consumable may be fun. Hydro? Already done. Radar? Not at that tier. Defensive AA fire? Why not, Or a new one, if WG add the UP, they can come with a new kind of defensive AA fire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #70 Posted January 16, 2017 Very good point comparing it too the Mutsu, but the difference between early Mutsu and late Nagato are bigger than early Hood and late Hood. Most bbs can do well without a scout plane bh, it can get another consumable instead maybe?? The secondaries are bad in both refits and I don't think Hood would be a good melee brawler anyways The differences are small between '30s Hood and '41 Hood, but quite large compared to a 1942 refit that everyone is quite rightly assuming will be the top hull of a tech tree version (if that's how we get the class). As build, the armor schemes of Hood and Nagato are surprisingly similar, as is their secondary armament (down to the above water torpedo tubes). Given how this game distorts the relative value of different kind of armour schemes, and how "brawling" range in game would essentially be suicide range IRL (way closer than the lower end of ANY immunity zone), the angling would matter more than the bulk of the armour scheme anyway. Plus Hood would have the speed to get in, the accuracy to obliterate something quickly, and the speed to get back out before too much focus fell on her. As a side note, Hood had a strange "weak spot" due to the exposed armored slope but even accounting for this, actual ranges at which she is vulnerable to plunging fire are something like >20km against 15" guns. This is pretty terrible as an upper bound of an immunity zone IRL but is extreme range in game. As I said the whole thing is distorted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,688 battles Report post #71 Posted February 26, 2017 I found something quite interesting on the Russian Forum, but take a look by ourself. Nothing to see there, except russian stuff? Well, let's take a look at the ship list and especially the British one... Do you see it? Yep. The Hood. In the ship list. Well, there is no indication about which one since there is no year with her... But, the Hood seems to exist in WoWs, and will be a premium. And since the post was made by a developer, we a have a nice leak other there. Isn't it? So... It's time for : And now... We wait. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmartassNoob Players 723 posts 5,774 battles Report post #72 Posted February 26, 2017 The 1941 version seems to be a downgrade, because the only visible difference is the missing plane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mucker Players 842 posts 8,403 battles Report post #73 Posted February 26, 2017 Tier 7 is kina confirmed then. Very well! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #74 Posted February 26, 2017 If it's a premium it will be historical, most likely as sunk. All that remains is to see which tier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmartassNoob Players 723 posts 5,774 battles Report post #75 Posted February 26, 2017 Would make sense at 7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
