[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,688 battles Report post #1 Posted October 3, 2016 Armament: 4 × 2 – BL 15-inch Mk I guns 12 × 1 – BL 5.5-inch Mk I guns 4 × 1 – QF 4-inch Mark V anti-aircraft guns 6 × 21-inch (533 mm) torpedo tubes Armour: Belt: 12–6 in (305–152 mm) Deck: 0.75–3 in (19–76 mm) Barbettes: 12–5 in (305–127 mm) Turrets: 15–11 in (381–279 mm) Conning tower: 11–9 in (279–229 mm) Speed: 32 knots Fighter : None Armament: 4 × 2 – BL 15-inch Mk I guns 12 × 1 – BL 5.5-inch Mk I guns 4 × 1 – QF 4-inch Mark V anti-aircraft guns 6 × 21-inch (533 mm) torpedo tubes Armour: Belt: 12–6 in (305–152 mm) Deck: 0.75–3 in (19–76 mm) Barbettes: 12–5 in (305–127 mm) Turrets: 15–11 in (381–279 mm) Conning tower: 11–9 in (279–229 mm) Speed: 32 knots Fighter : One Armement: 4 × 2 – 15-inch (381 mm) guns 7 × 2 – QF 4-inch Mk XVI AA guns 3 × 8 – QF 2-pdr "pom pom" AA guns 5 × 4 – 0.5-inch Vickers machine guns 5 × 20-barrel "Unrotated Projectile" mounts 2 × 2 – 21-inch above water torpedo tubes Armour: Belt: 12–6 in (305–152 mm) Deck: 0.75–3 in (19–76 mm) Barbettes: 12–5 in (305–127 mm) Turrets: 15–11 in (381–279 mm) Conning tower: 11–9 in (279–229 mm) Speed: 28 knots Fighter : None For more info see: http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/870-hms-hood-1942-rebuild-premium/ http://www.hmshood.com/history/construct/repair42.htm So, here is all the Hood configuration I know, which one is your favourite, and wich one do you want to see in game? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #2 Posted October 3, 2016 Maybe a small hypothetical WW2 "what if" upgrade so it can sit higher up in the tiers. Although that might enrage the purists/history buffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Trainspite Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster 1,920 posts 4,621 battles Report post #3 Posted October 3, 2016 I'll take 3 please, for one regular tier 7 British BC. 1920 - A hull 1941 - B hull 1942* - C hull (If it is not overpowered) *= More likely to be 1943 or 1944 when she would have left the docks I think. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #4 Posted October 3, 2016 Seems nobody is a fan of the 1931 fit. Interestingly, she only had a spotter briefly around this time, so we might end up with a weird fit that keeps the catapult but is otherwise 1941 (unless they just make her spotter-less but give her a different unique consumable, more likely for premium). The 1941 fit is most likely for the premium option. The "what if" rebuild definitely has a place due to game balance and is actually pretty gorgeous (rebuild Renown looks good so why wouldn't Hood) and is in my opinion the most likely final hull for a normal tree version. I've also ticked the 1920s look as well because it has a certain thoroughbred purity to it without all the AA (and because Hood did a famous world cruise with Repulse in that decade). The secondaries on that hull are awesome but unfortunately I don't see it as ever being more than maybe a horrible A hull to grind through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmartassNoob Players 723 posts 5,774 battles Report post #5 Posted October 3, 2016 I'll take 3 please, for one regular tier 7 British BC. 1920 - A hull 1941 - B hull 1942* - C hull (If it is not overpowered) *= More likely to be 1943 or 1944 when she would have left the docks I think. That sounds about right, but why would it be over powered? Until then it didn't have any planes. Maybe a small hypothetical WW2 "what if" upgrade so it can sit higher up in the tiers. Although that might enrage the purists/history buffs. Damn straight it would. The english had at least 3 technology tree columns worth of BBs and BCs. If a ship obviously belongs to a certain tier, it should stay there. There's no shortage of ships for the higher tiers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #6 Posted October 3, 2016 Webley_Mark if you want more people to comment you should add more details then the pictures, not everyone here knows the configuration of each refit ( this includes me, and I can be quite lazy not wanting to have to look them up myself ). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,688 battles Report post #7 Posted October 3, 2016 Webley_Mark if you want more people to comment you should add more details then the pictures, not everyone here knows the configuration of each refit ( this includes me, and I can be quite lazy not wanting to have to look them up myself ). Oh... Yes, This is a very good idea. I'm on it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LONR] thestaggy Beta Tester 403 posts 7,718 battles Report post #8 Posted October 3, 2016 As sunk, 1941 configuration. That will satisfy the purist in me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #9 Posted October 3, 2016 20 and 31 lack any substantial AAA, considering the tier Hood will be placed in based on armor and gun's I don't see those making it in the game without 'unhistorical changes'. If people want an historically correct early Hood refit, it would have to be tier 5 and even that is pushing it ( but hey, Arkansas Beta does fine on tier 4 without AAA at all ). 41 refit looks like a solid tier 7. Also, were there speed changes in the refits ( I assume so but I don't know them )? Torpedo protection changes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,688 battles Report post #10 Posted October 3, 2016 Also, were there speed changes in the refits ( I assume so but I don't know them )? Torpedo protection changes? Speed in 1920: 32 knots. Speed in 1941: 28knots. I don't remember any change for the torpedo protection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Trainspite Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster 1,920 posts 4,621 battles Report post #11 Posted October 3, 2016 That sounds about right, but why would it be over powered? Until then it didn't have any planes. Well, the ship would have about North Carolina levels of health, roughly equal armour, would be faster though not as good at turning, have pretty good AA and respectable secondaries. Her main guns are nothing to be sniffed at either. Maybe I am just paranoid, but it sounds like a big improvement over Colorado and Nagato. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Trainspite Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster 1,920 posts 4,621 battles Report post #12 Posted October 3, 2016 Speed in 1920: 32 knots. Speed in 1941: 28knots. I don't remember any change for the torpedo protection. I don't think WG would use the 28kn speed unless Hood was a premium in her 1941 form, which I am vehemently against. Usually, even if the ship would be worn out, or on a full load, WG keep the speed the same as a regular load as built ship. (Sorry for the double post). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,688 battles Report post #13 Posted October 3, 2016 I don't think WG would use the 28kn speed unless Hood was a premium in her 1941 form, which I am vehemently against. Usually, even if the ship would be worn out, or on a full load, WG keep the speed the same as a regular load as built ship. (Sorry for the double post). I really hope WG give her, at least, 30 knots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #14 Posted October 3, 2016 Well, the ship would have about North Carolina levels of health, roughly equal armour, would be faster though not as good at turning, have pretty good AA and respectable secondaries. Her main guns are nothing to be sniffed at either. Maybe I am just paranoid, but it sounds like a big improvement over Colorado and Nagato. 41? Armement: 4 × 2 – 15-inch (381 mm) guns 7 × 2 – QF 4-inch Mk XVI AA guns 3 × 8 – QF 2-pdr "pom pom" AA guns 5 × 4 – 0.5-inch Vickers machine guns 5 × 20-barrel "Unrotated Projectile" mounts 2 × 2 – 21-inch above water torpedo tubes Which OP secondaries? *disclaimer: I got no friggin idea what the 'unrotated projectile' mounts are I was actually thinking she would get shafted by a decent Nagato captain ( remember they are fixing the frontal magazine armor bug on Nagato! ), unless she was able to dictate engagements. What is the height of the rangefinder of Hood in the 41 refit? Any idea of how well the concealment might be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,688 battles Report post #15 Posted October 3, 2016 disclaimer: I got no friggin idea what the 'unrotated projectile' mounts are Oh... That's just a kind of AAA mount. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unrotated_projectile 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #16 Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) I think WG has said in the past that rockets would not make it into the game, so those things are 'out' I guess. edit: that also means the 41 refit has no surface secondaries at all, since the unrotated projectiles was the only listed armament which I didn't know and the rest is AAA. Edited October 3, 2016 by mtm78 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Trainspite Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster 1,920 posts 4,621 battles Report post #17 Posted October 3, 2016 41? 42/3/4. 41 is perfectly fine for tier 7, and I expect WG will have that as a base option, and maybe add a C hull later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #18 Posted October 3, 2016 42/3/4. 41 is perfectly fine for tier 7, and I expect WG will have that as a base option, and maybe add a C hull later. But the 41 doesn't have any surface secondaries listed in the OP, all I can see is AAA mounts outside of the main armament? /me is confuzelled Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHATS] Webley_Mark WoWs Wiki Team 12,258 posts 9,688 battles Report post #19 Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) I think WG has said in the past that rockets would not make it into the game, so those things are 'out' I guess. edit: that also means the 41 refit has no surface secondaries at all, since the unrotated projectiles was the only listed armament which I didn't know and the rest is AAA. The Hood still has her QF 4-inch Mk XVI AA guns as secondaries. Not a lot but that's already something. Edited October 3, 2016 by Webley_Mark 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Trainspite Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster 1,920 posts 4,621 battles Report post #20 Posted October 3, 2016 But the 41 doesn't have any surface secondaries listed in the OP, all I can see is AAA mounts outside of the main armament? /me is confuzelled She has the same secondaries as Warspite. (In terms of 4"). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #21 Posted October 3, 2016 Might help plebs like me to change the AAA description to DP then as I missed they were dual purpose guns due to the explicit mentioning of AAA designation If they perform close the German 102mm the 7x2 setup sounds actually really good ( trainspite, don't facepalm to hard plox ). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_MfZ6T7iwWpUC Players 1,139 posts Report post #22 Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) I would keep it in its original launched condition, and put it in an appropriate tier. I know everybody will want a top notch Hood to compete with Bismarck etc, but I would prefer to see it in its original form competing against other BB/BC's of the time. Only then will we see the Hood as intended. Edited October 3, 2016 by anonym_MfZ6T7iwWpUC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Trainspite Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster 1,920 posts 4,621 battles Report post #23 Posted October 3, 2016 Might help plebs like me to change the AAA description to DP then as I missed they were dual purpose guns due to the explicit mentioning of AAA designation If they perform close the German 102mm the 7x2 setup sounds actually really good ( trainspite, don't facepalm to hard plox ). *calms self by drinking tea* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #24 Posted October 3, 2016 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FOX] Grimsley Beta Tester 32 posts 5,878 battles Report post #25 Posted October 3, 2016 I would like to see '41 as the premium Hood itself, and '42 as an imagined Admiral class in a regular battlecruiser BB line. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites