CV situation at 0.5.12 from reddit

[Fatty_TheCaughtCarrier]

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[Gunship14]

I'm not even a CV player and this makes me mad. It needs to be fixed yesterday.

[anonym_EFwxJOPWzlER]

Greetings from angry CV captain.

 

-At first, i apologize all users for bad language.

 

-I can't play my beauties about 2 days. (Huge thanks to WG)

-I am looking for an execuse/explanation over 2 days everywhere included reddit, forums, twitter responses, official site etc. Because as i said i can not play the game which is im paying money for PREMIUM to play the game with ease.

 

-First u killed my beautiful Tirpitz, i stayed calm because you are right to do it. But now i am not gonna stop talking, abusing you and your staff or whoever did this bullsh*t. Even its clearly something going wrong with CVs, no one gives a sh*t about it and no one clarifying or at least saying something from staff.

 

-Some of dummies can say "Hey its tier X, you should lost money!!!!" bla bla sh*t. I am OK with that. BUT IF THERE IS A MONTANA PLAYER PROFITS 200K SILVER IN SAME GAME, I WILL NEVER ACCEPT THIS ECONOMY CRAP.

 

Let's see what we have;

  https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/55dk32/hakuryu_0512_cv_economy_changes_are_bad_200k_dmg/

 

Video;

 

 

Screens (link); http://imgur.com/a/wja4q

 

WG have made an incredible mess of the game, i have sold about 8 ships in the last day or 2, i'm winding down my account

 

 

[ilhilh]

 

WG have made an incredible mess of the game, i have sold about 8 ships in the last day or 2, i'm winding down my account

 

 

 

I'm glad you gave them time to deal with t he problems

[Fatty_TheCaughtCarrier]

 

I'm glad you gave them time to deal with t he problems

 

Why we have a test server if they are not gonna tryout new mechanics over there ?

[krautjaeger]

So far I've not seen anyone disagreeing with CVs being shafted in the latest patch, and I think WG is aware. They will balance CVs. iirc they even said something about that, monitoring CVs, when patch was launched. As for the rest of the classes, if people can not get it to work they're lazy and do not want to change. imho. I've had really crappy games and still make a profit.

[Shirakami_Kon]

Sorry for offtopic but this got my attention.

 

-First u killed my beautiful Tirpitz, i stayed calm because you are right to do it.

 

When did that happen? I keep playing Tirpitz and I didn't notice anything wrong. And maybe I missed some nerf in the patchnotes but I think WG hasn't touched the Tirpitz to nerf something (still).

[GeneraIIKrizmuz]

best patch ever

[Swen_rudobrody]

 

Why we have a test server if they are not gonna tryout new mechanics over there ?

 

It's WG. They don't use test servers to collect feedback from people. They just release things and see what happens. And they keep telling that every change is an improvement. So welcome to the new improved economy.

[krautjaeger]

Meanwhile over in another thread:

 

 

We find that the forum is quite often a cross-section of the community with both good and bad players represented, this is why we do spend the time, effort and ultimately money to make sure we collect your feedback and pass it on to the developers.

 

While the feedback and the poll is relevant and will be taken into account, we don't need to wait and see if our player numbers are affected, we will simply take a very close look at the various battle results and how much players are earning for what kind of performance.

 

Personally, I have noticed little change as I always play a quite aggressive game, but I can definitely see that CV's for example have been hit badly and need love.

 

Basically guys - don't worry! 

 

These changes are not set in stone and when we have collected the data that we need we will make changes and tweaks to make sure all classes are treated fairly and that you guys are happy!

 

[Fatty_TheCaughtCarrier]

Sorry for offtopic but this got my attention.

 

 

When did that happen? I keep playing Tirpitz and I didn't notice anything wrong. And maybe I missed some nerf in the patchnotes but I think WG hasn't touched the Tirpitz to nerf something (still).

Sorry for late response. Its stealth/ninja nerf they did on Tirpitz. Everyone who has Tirpitz can feel shes different now. She lacks huge penetration now. Bounce on even CAs.

 

Just like they did with this patch to IJN Torpedo Bombers. Before 0.5.12 TBs servicing time faster than fighters. Now, in 0.5.12, they're equal. And there is not a single word about that...

[Blizzard____]

this is a classic wg dev 

 

[Raven2k5]

Wow i actually have no idea what to say anymore..... When i started out with World of Warships i was mainly a CV player. And yeah we all know nerfs had to be done because people couldn't and still can't play as a team. Which is by the way probably one of the main reasons why they had to nerf the khaba, since the only counter against a good khaba player was/is teamplay.... but i digress.

 

So even after all the nerfs in the past i enjoyed to play CV's now and then, not as much as before, but i still did some games. But patch after patch i can see more and more that WG doesn't care or want to care about carriers. After all this time since the Alpha we mostly got nerfs and sometimes even stupid buffs... US fighter ammo *cough*, we still have the god awful UI and WG has still no clue what to do with CV's.... Okay we got some good stuff after waiting for ages like the inversed IJN TB spread or the smaller bomb circle. But even this minor changes took way too long.

 

 

Sure they need time to analyze the statistics... as if they didn't see beforehand with internal testing and after the PT session that average CV players get shafted hard. Everyone could have told them that with reduced rewards for damage, probably still shitty plane kill xp (as if AS CV's are even fun to play ), most likely non exsistant spotting rewards and the fixed maintance cost CV's dont really work anymore.

 

Well that concludes my little rant. I know, nobody cares anyways... but whatever. Sometimes even i need to write a rant in the Forum.

 

Atleast i still earn good money in the other classes.... that WG maybe actually cares about.

[Aerroon]

So far I've not seen anyone disagreeing with CVs being shafted in the latest patch, and I think WG is aware. They will balance CVs. iirc they even said something about that, monitoring CVs, when patch was launched. As for the rest of the classes, if people can not get it to work they're lazy and do not want to change. imho. I've had really crappy games and still make a profit.

 

How much money are you making in T8 ranked right now? Most of my matches are between -30k to +50k. A good match can give me 100k. This is when I'm not playing premiums. The income is abysmal at T8 in short matches.

 

Also, about the video in OP's topic: a user on Youtube pointed out that it is likely related to Bastion mode giving lower rewards. CV xp and credits gain is low, but it probably shouldn't be *that* low, so it's likely a Bastion issue.

[Zgicc]

I think anyone who was not a complete moron had any real issues with economy pre-patch. Considering the 40% Shimakazes and Yamatos at high tiers.

 

Now it seems everyone has problems with economy except for the bottom feeders who don't lose as much as they used to.

 

Its not something which affects just CVs. I make less profit and XP with all the classes than in 5.11.

 

10/10 patch.

 

[Blue_Bug]

-First u killed my beautiful Tirpitz

 

stopped reading after this. Tirpitz was never nerfed, if even got some buffs (fighterplane / AA).

[mtm78]

Meanwhile over in another thread:

 

 

 

Yeah, 'We want you to be happy, so please don't mind us fecking up in all possible ways and then slowly trying to correct our mistakes all the while ignoring the signs which foretold that introducing changes like this pisses off your players'.

 

It's almost like they don't WANT us to play the damn game anymore. 

[Zgicc]

*Wrong thread*

 

But yeah terrible patch.

 

Edit2: Now that somebody quoted me post is here

[mtm78]

Zgicc, on 02 October 2016 - 08:25 AM, said:

You just made the game grindier and punished players who are good at the game.

 

 Ofc, because the 'good' players shouldn't think they know anything about the game, they obviously don't understand the concept 'play4fun' which is critical to commercial success of a game. If scrubs have fun and good players don't that's not a problem, there are way more scrubs then good players. 

 

 there might be some hidden sarcasm above, not sure

 

[Blaxx]

The problem is the same for CA .... , u have to avoid dmg to stay alive because evry BB shell can kill u. Then u need to make damage to help your team . If u manage this good make good dmg your team wins u are alive and support then u are shafted because u did not take dmg.

 

Is a CA a tank WG  ? Direct Nerf to CA and make this class even more unplayable.

Patch works ongly for BB , wich deal DMG and take DMG and this send us direct to WORLD OF BB . GOOD JOB WG !

[Ast3lan]

 

 Ofc, because the 'good' players shouldn't think they know anything about the game, they obviously don't understand the concept 'play4fun' which is critical to commercial success of a game. If scrubs have fun and good players don't that's not a problem, there are way more scrubs then good players. 

 

 there might be some hidden sarcasm above, not sure

 

 

I can confirm my sarcasm detector is bursting as we speak. 

[Fatty_TheCaughtCarrier]

 

stopped reading after this. Tirpitz was never nerfed, if even got some buffs (fighterplane / AA).

 

Well officially not but 90% of Tirpitz players can feel she is not same now.

And

Did you read any nerf on Torpedo bombers in 0.5.12 ? No. But they are nerfed. In 0.5.12 it takes 5 seconds more to reload/replenish.

[mcboernester]

Pretty much experienced the Same as Aerroon did. You play a good game, go out with the big 3 Rewards and get 250k Credits. It's just a joke as it is right now. Seems ok on the BBs though, made 220k dmg and High Caliber with my GK, lost my Ship and still went out with 170k + Credits. Smells fishy.

[viceadmiral123]

For t10 BBs its officially better to YOLO charge, since you make money from being shot at. It's a thin balance between surviving to deal damage back, and sinking too early.

[ilhilh]

 

Well officially not but 90% of Tirpitz players can feel she is not same now.

And

Did you read any nerf on Torpedo bombers in 0.5.12 ? No. But they are nerfed. In 0.5.12 it takes 5 seconds more to reload/replenish.

 

90% of who?  The Tirpitz is as competitive as she was on the first day they put her on sale.

 

I like how you can point out the exact number of seconds TBs take longer to reload but with the Tirp all you can do is stick a made up percentage in front of you talking about your feels.