What happened to all the CV?

[Kameho]

I find the lack of CV disturbing.

At most there is 1 CV on each team per battle, maybe once in a blue moon you might get 2.

This count for T4 and upwards.

 

Why is this?

[Smeggo]

Take a look at coop, there you can find the missing CVs and Cruisers 

 

[Azalgor]

Its because WG staff loves CVs so much that they plan on removing them completely from the game, so that people dont taint their glorious history ant the role they played in actual naval warfare.

[Kameho]

I mean if they already on the process on removing CV from the game. They might aswell add BB's or else there arent any hardcounters against BB's.

 

Every match now adays seems to be dominated by BB's and few staggering DD's that manage to hide in between islands.

[Kruzenstern]

There are actually quite a few CVs at tiers 4 and 5, sealclubbing because there are few if any good AA ships there and those carriers only get +1 MM. From tier6 on, they pretty much died out though.

[ColonelPete]

They spot my DDs.

[dasCKD]

Due to recent WG "balances" to AA and CV loadouts, most CV captains have converted their CVs to golf courses.

[_FTD_]

CVs and CAs are pretty much dead in randoms, less than 3 CAs per t8+ game 

 

[krautjaeger]

Going to be fun after tomorrows patch, afaik CVs will now get more XP from using fighters to take out enemy airplanes and protecting their fleet. When talking about this in chat though, most CV captains seem to just want to give up and go somewhere else... I told them it is for sake of teamplay, supporting team, and replies goes along the lines of 'that is for noobs'. So yay for team spirit.

[Ishiro32]

I told them it is for sake of teamplay, supporting team, and replies goes along the lines of 'that is for noobs'. So yay for team spirit.

 

Mate, please...You just asked them not only do something really boring and easy, but at the same time something which doesn't even make you win games. So it's boring and not effective. Yay for team spirit, I guess. I think I am missing something here.

 

Edit.

Just to be sure people understand my position. I think moaning about exp rebalance is a bit childish, the way you win games did not change and as long as people can profit from playing for win there is no issue.

At the same time, I am just triggered by this "team spirit" argument as it is as flawed as the fighter decks themselves.

[anonym_hqO9wrVAEQYQ]

 so that people dont taint their glorious history ant the role they played in actual naval warfare.

 

And your point is. They are broken in this game and most people want to shoot ships not play some crappy RTS.

[Kameho]

even if you just want to shoot ships, then even less reason why there are no submarines, the very thing that went on ship hunting.

And if people just purely want to shoot ships, well theres a good board game i used to play as a kid called battleship.

 

I dont get why wargaming has such hard time balancing between the different ships. Well I kinda get it. They missed out on SS, and FF.
If they had theese, then CV's wouldnt be to unbalanced as there are more than 1 thing that can counter them, this also allows CV to carry much more planes aswell.

 

I mean Navyfield had it all, and it didnt seem to have to much issues with it. I mean the game even had Kuma Kai and it was still playable.

[MaxxyNL]

I have seen enough CV's in Random Battles today. 

 

[krautjaeger]

 

Mate, please...You just asked them not only do something really boring and easy, but at the same time something which doesn't even make you win games. So it's boring and not effective. Yay for team spirit, I guess. I think I am missing something here.

 

Edit.

Just to be sure people understand my position. I think moaning about exp rebalance is a bit childish, the way you win games did not change and as long as people can profit from playing for win there is no issue.

At the same time, I am just triggered by this "team spirit" argument as it is as flawed as the fighter decks themselves.

 

Well, there are more than a few CV captains that just go full load and no fighters or the only one they have to bring. And they can't even aim those planes right, so if it is so easy to clear the skies of enemy airplanes then I think some may actually benefit from doing that instead.

[lankylad11_lankylad]

CV's are disappearing because they keep getting nerfed into oblivion in every update.  They were never broken to begin with.  The problem was the dear battleships couldnt cope with something countering them

[Ubertron_X]

CVs are odd and hard to implement. If they fight each other 10 to 11 players are happy but for the CVs it's just a 1 on 1 or 2 on 2, so their contribution has to be small. If they dont fight each other it is 1 vs 11 or 2 vs 10, their contribution usually is huge and 10 to 11 players are unhappy. Now balance that.

 

In addtion to that the threat that they pose (not just for BBs, but also for DDs, especially on higher tiers) enforces some kind of very limited gameplay (aka staying together in a huge clusterf**k and calling it teamplay) that is even contradicting some of the games own modes like for example domination.

 

Add clunky controls and insane levels of AA and you know why CVs are disliked by CV players and non-CV players alike.

[silence5]

Guess what happens when every battleship has AA that shoots down half of your planes on the way in and the rest of them on the way out... You guessed right.

People don't want to play CV's anymore with the current meta of every ship besides low tier cruisers and DDs being capable of defending itself Now imagine what happend when people learned to stick together ...  

 

Than take into account the absolutley shitty User interface that the CV players have to tolerate and you have the perfect storm. 
I'm one of those that persists, because there are still enough stupid people in every game that are willing to sail alone instead of in a group.

[Ragoutrabbit]

They can't curb stomp anything and everything as easy as they used to so most moved on to the next big thing.

[Corvi]

Well im playing my Lexi every day :o

[silence5]

They can't curb stomp anything and everything as easy as they used to so most moved on to the next big thing.

 

Says someone with 0 CV games

[Ragoutrabbit]

 

Says someone with 0 CV games

 

Didn't need to play them to see the results of them killing everything under the sun.

[Rabid_Turnip]

CVs drove more players away from WoWs in the first 3 months of this game being live than everything else put together, even more than torps from out of nowhere in open water in bright sunlight from magically invisible DDs, or randomly lucky citadels from BBs occasionally one-shotting cruisers. CVs are truly this game's arty, the class everyone else hates and wishes were gone.

 

We told them over and over and over in the Beta that CVs were nonsense and shouldn't be in the game at all in this mechanic, but the devs just wouldn't listen; and lo, they insisted on pushing through the brand new arty, a class despised and hated by everyone else that ruined the game for everyone else. The first month or two of the game's forums being live were totally dominated by complaints about how ridiculously game-breaking and game-ruining CVs ('skillships' was the most commonly used term) and picking off other players at will when those players had no chance at all to fight back was a good game mechanic.

 

Nobody ever says "Yay, 2 CVs in this game, permanent plane spam, torp soup for everyone is such fun!"...but when circumstances allow, one hell of a lot of people will always say "Yay, no CVs at all in this game, we might actually have fun now"! If WG would just wake up and remove CVs altogether this game, overall, would be a lot more fun.

[anonym_PYC0RAuRIwe4]

I find the lack of CVs pleasing.

 

Remove them completely and add Submarines.

[GenerallKrizmuz]

WoWS is in remission

[kfa]

CVs drove more players away from WoWs in the first 3 months of this game being live than everything else put together, even more than torps from out of nowhere in open water in bright sunlight from magically invisible DDs, or randomly lucky citadels from BBs occasionally one-shotting cruisers. CVs are truly this game's arty, the class everyone else hates and wishes were gone.

 

We told them over and over and over in the Beta that CVs were nonsense and shouldn't be in the game at all in this mechanic, but the devs just wouldn't listen; and lo, they insisted on pushing through the brand new arty, a class despised and hated by everyone else that ruined the game for everyone else. The first month or two of the game's forums being live were totally dominated by complaints about how ridiculously game-breaking and game-ruining CVs ('skillships' was the most commonly used term) and picking off other players at will when those players had no chance at all to fight back was a good game mechanic.

 

Nobody ever says "Yay, 2 CVs in this game, permanent plane spam, torp soup for everyone is such fun!"...but when circumstances allow, one hell of a lot of people will always say "Yay, no CVs at all in this game, we might actually have fun now"! If WG would just wake up and remove CVs altogether this game, overall, would be a lot more fun.

 

You are wrong, i am always happy if there is cv no matter what ship i sail, just to know that there is possibiliy to counter bow on reversing battleships, spot dd-s and SOS decap.

 

And i am pretty frustrated if there are no cvs when i play any sort of AA orientated ship...