World of Warships and it's Vsync

[tadaMonika]

So, I dont really know, where to post this, I just hope, its fine to post it in general gameplay.

I have a few questions for you, because my problems with the framerate in this game are just infuriating...

 

So, the way, Vsync works is that it caps your FPS to 60, if your PC can handle it and drops down, when it can not, right (I tried every Vsync option and am running adaptive at the moment)?

But in this game it just doesnt seem to work for me, because the framerate usually just fluctuates from 76, to a steady 62-58 (which I would consider normal for Vsync), down to 37, 17, and so on.

Vsync off has no effect other than screen tearing. Does this happen for you guys, too? Are their any ways to fix the drops (which occur random but it seems, that they are more frequent when enemies show up and a lot is going on; again it SEEMS so, but it isnt that clear).

 

Messing with the graphics options is pointless. In fact, it seems to run better maxed out. Its just so lame that the whole game gets ruined for me because of these random drops.

I should also mention that games like Doom 4 or Battlefield 4 on High settings with Vsync run perfectly fine...

My specs (for all the ones, coming in, saying I should upgrade my potato PC):

i5 4460

GTX1060 6GB Vram

8GB Ram

 

Any help is appreciated

-Kitsune

 

[br1zz]

vsync does not cap your fps to 60. it caps your fps to your screenrefreshrate, in your case 60hz > 60fps.

 

i have a 144hz screen, i disabled vsync and capped the fps to 144 via config. i have 70-144 fps and i dont see any screen tearing. as you see my fps fluctuate a lot, the wows engine is just bad, but im pretty sure the engine is not prone to screentearing anyway, so no point to use vsync at all, since it drains a good bit of gpu power aswell.

 

so you cant do anything against this problem.

 

 

[tadaMonika]

vsync does not cap your fps to 60. it caps your fps to your screenrefreshrate, in your case 60hz > 60fps.

 

i have a 144hz screen, i disabled vsync and capped the fps to 144 via config. i have 70-144 fps and i dont see any screen tearing. as you see my fps fluctuate a lot, the wows engine is just bad, but im pretty sure the engine is not prone to screentearing anyway, so no point to use vsync at all, since it drains a good bit of gpu power aswell.

 

so you cant do anything against this problem.

 

 

 

Yeah, I guess most people still have a 60Hz monitor, so it caps them at 60 (or at least tries to). But if the game offers Vsync and it is not working at all (76 fps?), whats the point?

Also I see a lot of Youtubers playing the game who do, in fact have a stable framerate of 58-60 fps all the time, so I guess that either my PC is too weak (which would be hillarious), or they know a trick, I do not know.

Also could you tell me, how you "capped your framerate to 144fps" in your config? Because 144-70 drops are a lot better than 76-17fps

[br1zz]

its indeed very strange that you have such low fps. i have a GTX770, which is a lot weaker, and i have all details on maximum, yet more fps o_O

 

to set your fps go into your wows folder then > res > engine_config.xml

edit it and change the value <maxFrameRate>144</maxFrameRate> to your desire. in my case its already 144, yours should be 76 by default.

[tadaMonika]

its indeed very strange that you have such low fps. i have a GTX770, which is a lot weaker, and i have all details on maximum, yet more fps o_O

 

to set your fps go into your wows folder then > res > engine_config.xml

edit it and change the value <maxFrameRate>144</maxFrameRate> to your desire. in my case its already 144, yours should be 76 by default.

 

Thanks man^^ Yeah, I had a GTX970 until last week and just bought the 1060. It straight carries the rest of my PC regarding performance, but this game... I mean my hardware besides the 1060 is not bad, so nothing is bottlenecking either.

Better looking games run smooth as fk. I tried reinstalling it, too. Nothing changes. Just infuriating lol

[br1zz]

i hope it runs better now for you without vsync at least. and btw the 970 and 1060 are nearly identical in performance. your 1060 has more vram but that should only be noticable in few games, and even then minimal better performance. did your 970 broke ?

[Crusherheads]

Do u use triple buffering? i have a screen 60hz too but my graphic card(geforce 760 gtx 2gb) aint so great, but i do run smoothly with the game, ofc not all settings are maxed.

 

Toke me around 2-3 days to adjust the game according to my taste, i wanted performance and some shiny, was hard to accomplish but i manage to get it at my taste finaly (look screenshots for my settings), btw some ingame graphic's usely cause the screen to break or spikes with the fps, so yeah u better reduce that stuff, such shadow, water, reflections, this for me are the 3 main heavy stuffs. 

 

 

[tadaMonika]

Nope, my 970 did not break, but the 3.5GB Vram bugged me a lot and the 1060 is actually performing quite a bit better. It is actually on par with the 980 and 6GB Vram are not bad, either^^

[br1zz]

Do u use triple buffering? i have a screen 60hz too but my graphic card(geforce 760 gtx 2gb) aint so great, but i do run smoothly with the game, ofc not all settings are maxed.

 

Toke me around 2-3 days to adjust the game according to my taste, i wanted performance and some shiny, was hard to accomplish but i manage to get it at my taste finaly (look screenshots for my settings), btw some ingame graphic's usely cause the screen to break or spikes with the fps, so yeah u better reduce that stuff, such shadow, water, reflections, this for me are the 3 main heavy stuffs. 

 

 

 

he has a 1060, which is waaaaaaaay faster than your 760, he doesnt need to reduce ANY details. i run MAXIMUM details with my gtx770, and i have an average of 90+ fps. so he is nowhere near the need to reduce anything, that wont help.

[tadaMonika]

As I said, my game seems to run the same with graphics low and very high. Dont think, thats the problem^^ Although, I just saw, that in the engine_config, triple buffering is set to "true", but ingame and in the Nvidia controls its off lol.

Should I set it to "false"? Also, thanks for the help, guys

[br1zz]

Nope, my 970 did not break, but the 3.5GB Vram bugged me a lot and the 1060 is actually performing quite a bit better. It is actually on par with the 980 and 6GB Vram are not bad, either^^

 

the 1060 is only performing better in few scenarios, so i guess something with your system is not working properly, seeing such few fps even now with the 1060. you should check check your system for maybe missing drivers or overheating components etc. upgrading from 970 to 1060 is indeed a waste of money, you should check some benchmarks, in a proper system the 970 performs the same way as a 1060. im not even keen on upgrading to a 1070 from my 770, the performance gain would be nice, but im waiting for the 1080ti

 

edit : triple buffer works only when vsync is active, so no need to change it, you can test it, but it shouldnt have any effect.

[rancidpunk]

Save up for a Gsync monitor to go with that 1060 and you'll never need vsync turned on again

 

[tadaMonika]

 

the 1060 is only performing better in few scenarios, so i guess something with your system is not working properly, seeing such few fps even now with the 1060. you should check check your system for maybe missing drivers or overheating components etc. upgrading from 970 to 1060 is indeed a waste of money, you should check some benchmarks, in a proper system the 970 performs the same way as a 1060. im not even keen on upgrading to a 1070 from my 770, the performance gain would be nice, but im waiting for the 1080ti

 

I do not have the money for a 1080ti xD Also, I got my 1060 fairly cheap and sold my 970 yesterday, so my "loss" is actually about 40 bucks^^ I got working RAM, my CPU does not overheat, GPU has a max heat off 76 degrees. My harddrive is properly defragmented And I cannot do a clean reinstall of Windows, because I have no Windows DVD or Key. Also this PC is now 3 years old.

I monitor the heat with MSI afterburner regularly and as I said, far more demanding games are running way better. But in a year or so, I will buy a new PC (probably without a gfxcard) anyway.

 

[br1zz]

Save up for a Gsync monitor to go with that 1060 and you'll never need vsync turned on again

 

waste of money, im very sensitive to things like screen tearing, but i never noticed any of that since i have my 144hz monitor. screen tearing is an game engine issue btw, so if it appears its bad engine coding, but that happens very rarely nowadays. so why waste money for a feature that is expensive, forces you to use nvidia cards, and has no effect in 99% of all games since screen tearing does occur in like 1% of game when you have a >100hz monitor. soon ™ monitors will have gsync-like functionality anyway for free.

[br1zz]

 

I do not have the money for a 1080ti xD Also, I got my 1060 fairly cheap and sold my 970 yesterday, so my "loss" is actually about 40 bucks^^ I got working RAM, my CPU does not overheat, GPU has a max heat off 76 degrees. My harddrive is properly defragmented And I cannot do a clean reinstall of Windows, because I have no Windows DVD or Key. Also this PC is now 3 years old.

I monitor the heat with MSI afterburner regularly and as I said, far more demanding games are running way better. But in a year or so, I will buy a new PC (probably without a gfxcard) anyway.

 

 

yea 1080ti will be super expensive and i will think twice before buying it , but im upgrading like every 3 years, so long term costs are the same like someone who upgrades every 2 or even 1 year.  

how are your fps now with the config edited and vsync off. should be better because vsync off is always a bit faster.

[rancidpunk]

 

waste of money, im very sensitive to things like screen tearing, but i never noticed any of that since i have my 144hz monitor. screen tearing is an game engine issue btw, so if it appears its bad engine coding, but that happens very rarely nowadays. so why waste money for a feature that is expensive, forces you to use nvidia cards, and has no effect in 99% of all games since screen tearing does occur in like 1% of game when you have a >100hz monitor. soon ™ monitors will have gsync-like functionality anyway for free.

 

I love it, having 144hz monitor in sync with the GPU has made massive battles in the Total War titles a real treat, worth the extra money any time just for that.

[br1zz]

 

I love it, having 144hz monitor in sync with the GPU has made massive battles in the Total War titles a real treat, worth the extra money any time just for that.

 

did you have a 60hz monitor then upgraded to a 144hz with gsync ? then what your describing is just the joy of 144hz, OR total war titles have a bad engine thats prone to screen tearing, and if it thats the case, this is a rare occurence, but doesnt justify gsync in most poeples opinion, UNLESS you exclusivly play games which have problems with screen tearing, but thats highly unlikely i think.

 

i played on a 144hz gsync monitor at my friends pc when he bought it, and its no difference to my 144hz monitor without gsync. invited him to play at my system, and he didnt notice a difference aswell. were both playing cs:go on high level and very sensitive to fps and hz related things. he sent back the gsync monitor some days after that, didnt want to waste money for nothing.

[tadaMonika]

 

yea 1080ti will be super expensive and i will think twice before buying it , but im upgrading like every 3 years, so long term costs are the same like someone who upgrades every 2 or even 1 year.  

how are your fps now with the config edited and vsync off. should be better because vsync off is always a bit faster.

 

Well I played 3 games now and nothing changed... As I said, Vsync on/off makes exactly zero difference for me, which is just damn strange.

[RUSSIANBlAS]

There is a little screen bleeding if you look carefully but the pace of WOWS means it's hardly noticeable.

[Prettyhill]

The first game I fired up after I built my new computer (i7 6700k, gtx1080, 16gb- 70fps) was WOWS. Apart from slightly better details, the result was hard to differentiate from my old rig (i7 920, gtx 670, 6gb- 50fps with some dips). If anything, WOWS Is quite well optimized for mid-low end setups.

[RUSSIANBlAS]

Yes, I bought a 1070, upgraded from a R9 290. No idea why, game looks no better even with a few gfx tweaks... Especially this is most of what I play nowadays. Should have saved the £400 odd on Prem Ships 

 

[rancidpunk]

 

did you have a 60hz monitor then upgraded to a 144hz with gsync ? then what your describing is just the joy of 144hz, OR total war titles have a bad engine thats prone to screen tearing, and if it thats the case, this is a rare occurence, but doesnt justify gsync in most poeples opinion, UNLESS you exclusivly play games which have problems with screen tearing, but thats highly unlikely i think.

 

i played on a 144hz gsync monitor at my friends pc when he bought it, and its no difference to my 144hz monitor without gsync. invited him to play at my system, and he didnt notice a difference aswell. were both playing cs:go on high level and very sensitive to fps and hz related things. he sent back the gsync monitor some days after that, didnt want to waste money for nothing.

 

I had the choice of a 980Ti and a cheaper monitor or the 970 and a better monitor, you can guess what I went for  

 

It was supposed to be a system upgrade last year to Skylake, DDR5, Windows 10, fully DX12 compatible etc. but I couldn't bring myself to get rid of my old overclocked i5 2500k cpu on W7 so I chucked the money at a GPU and Monitor. I had a 144hz monitor before and I really can see a difference in the smoothness now I've got Gsync but I'll never be able to truly tell what is actually making the difference since I was also chugging along on an old 560ti at the time.

 

Anyway, it's too late to return the monitor now so I'm stuck with it and the need to turn vsync off in full screen games for better or worse

[Nargoth73]

Are you running the latest Nvidia drivers? I have a GeForce 970M and I updated to the latest stable build (372.90) yesterday. The game seems to run more smoothly.

 

And always do a clean install of your Nvidia drivers when updating, it will get rid of most left-over files. Also, run CCleaner afterwards, especially the REGEDIT-cleaner.

[tadaMonika]

Are you running the latest Nvidia drivers? I have a GeForce 970M and I updated to the latest stable build (372.90) yesterday. The game seems to run more smoothly.

 

And always do a clean install of your Nvidia drivers when updating, it will get rid of most left-over files. Also, run CCleaner afterwards, especially the REGEDIT-cleaner.

Yup, latest drivers are installed. CCleaner runs once a week, registry is clean, old drivers uninstalled. Its pretty depressing to see, that friends of me can run the game at a stable framerate with way worse systems lol

[Nargoth73]

There is such a thing as being too far ahead on the technology curve. The software just isn't optimised for 10xx yet. 9xx has been around for a good two years so WoWs is pretty compatible. Give it a few patches. Maybe you can trick WoWs into thinking you have a 9xx? There might be emulators that can do that.