ferrariman15 Players 10 posts 757 battles Report post #1 Posted September 20, 2016 Well I've finally had it with WoW. I used to love playing BB's as there is some skill involved in angling your armour etc, but the game RNG and HE spamming cruisers mean I'm just not enjoying playing any more. In a recent game a Nurnberg was behind with usually constant HE spam for which there is no skill required, they were continually setting me on fire but as a good BB captain I kept my damage control ability until there were two or more fires going until I used it. I was holding off my return fire until them presented a decent target, which at one point they did. I fired both rear turrets at which point RNG stepped in and they all when long or short or over penned! So i then have to wait 30 seconds to reload in which time the relentless HE spamming continues and more fires are set and my health has been whittled down to virtually nothing. So I get one more shot to kill them. And guess what..... some went long, some over penned and one took 4000 hit points off them, I proceeded to burn to death. At this point I'm ready to throw my keyboard out of the window. So I'm done. Cruisers you have one less BB to spam your HE at I give up with WoW, it just isn't enjoyable to play any longer. I refuse to play cruisers and just spam HE at everything. I may play some DD's in future but with BB's I give up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corvi Beta Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,147 posts 16,279 battles Report post #2 Posted September 20, 2016 I can agree. Playing BB at the moment is absolutely frustrating and not rewarding in terms of fun. Im grinding cruisers now, wont touch BB's anymore after next patch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
batch1 Players 140 posts 14,442 battles Report post #3 Posted September 20, 2016 Ok ferrariman I'm all ears, how do you suggest cruisers do damage to BB.... would you rather they all lined up perfectly broad side like a fair ground turkey shoot for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #4 Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) I refuse to play cruisers and just spam HE at everything. Too bad, I bet you'd be super good at it! I may play some DD's in future but with BB's I give up. Wait - I thought you'd be gone...maybe you're right - maybe DD will be easier. I can agree. Playing BB at the moment is absolutely frustrating and not rewarding in terms of fun. Im grinding cruisers now, wont touch BB's anymore after next patch. Better "all go west" then, because in the east there is DD country Just met Corvi in game... Edited September 20, 2016 by aboomination Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Msiiek Players 465 posts 5,330 battles Report post #5 Posted September 20, 2016 My story of sailing with BB: Going forward, angling against BBs, shooting them. Then suddenly some little shells hit my superstructure and cause fire. Again? Some little pesky cruiser dare to shoot at me? I quickly post do rng good and shoot back at him. Devastating strike. Now I can do my stuff again. End of story. But seriously, don't expect them to die from every salvo you shoot lol. Remember the salvos you have aimed bad, but rnjesus changed the trajectory of one shell ava it caused a citadel? Yeah. BBs are strong, and fires are not a problem. 3 cruisers shooting you is a problem (you know, 3v1 supposed to be hard). Farewell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D7v Players 585 posts 13,142 battles Report post #6 Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) Those annoying Nuernbergs... With appropriate flags, skills, modules etc. u can almost completely negate burn damage...In my Kutuzov whole game I fired HE with DE to a Yamato and I have caused almost 80k damage alone to it but it still managed to survive and win the game with over 30k hp I strongly recommend that you find a clan. An alone BB is a dead BB no matter what it needs protection and best protection you can get from your friends. I am not in a clan either but playing with someone else in communication changes everything in the game. Edited September 20, 2016 by Vaspurakanian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N-L-L] peoplescavalry Players 531 posts 13,011 battles Report post #7 Posted September 20, 2016 You have my sympathy but was there two CAs ?if so it's rare to escape if you are on your own. And what was you sailing in? I love my BBs but these days it pays to go round in a gang. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Ubertron_X [NWP] Beta Tester 2,657 posts 25,744 battles Report post #8 Posted September 20, 2016 I think he rather complains about BB RNG and the resulting inconsistent damage, i.e. you either do 3 overpens for 3k damage or 3 citadel hits though the bow for 30k damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #9 Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) Silly Nürnberg, could've probably killed you even faster if he had poured AP into your superstructure. 4k+ damage every salvo, beats fire DOT and the measly HE damage in raw DPM. You might not want to hear this, but you actually were lucky with a Nürnberg spamming its deplorably bad HE at you, he gave you more than a fighting chance! Plus with a Nürnberg you don't have to wait for a broadside, since your battleship guns will punch clean through his armour anyway. In fact shooting him lengthwise is a pretty good idea since it means you won't be getting automatic overpens if you don't hit the citadel. RNG being wonky with BB shots isn't anything new ... Edited September 20, 2016 by Aotearas 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woofbark Players 100 posts 1,820 battles Report post #10 Posted September 20, 2016 I reckon we could do with a seperate BBaby whine forum section. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_yABmLAWoZ6QF Players 68 posts Report post #11 Posted September 20, 2016 I have to ask. Do you have the ship consumable " Damage Controle II" (not type I) on your BB? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXx_Blogis_xXx Alpha Tester, Players 5,335 posts 35,510 battles Report post #12 Posted September 20, 2016 dont have prob play BB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,531 battles Report post #13 Posted September 20, 2016 @ferrariman15 if you had not said goodbye I am not playing anymore i would say.. GO play those easy mode no skill needed HE spamming Cruisers and come back to us. But you are going so dont rely care Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[1378] Nargoth73 Players 460 posts 3,784 battles Report post #14 Posted September 20, 2016 I got burned down in my Gneisenau (or Shinyhorse) by a retreating Atlanta. The thing is, I was playing it all wrong. I should have disengaged and let him come to me, instead I kept pressing forward and died because of fire. So, it's not the cruiser's fault I got killed, it was my own. I should have lured him back to our team, but sometimes it's like a ship is waving a red flag and says "come get me". Sometimes the bull gets the matador, but this time I got speared. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[D-O-D] Nebojsha67 Players 60 posts 26,650 battles Report post #15 Posted September 20, 2016 Do you know how frustrating it is when I, CA player, get in a fight where the 4-5 BB, 3-4 DD and maybe one CV? Do you know how we feel, CA players, when we see it? And of course all of BB, which are mostly held together in a group, immediately shoot at us. Let's see, 4 BB x 12 guns of 300mm AP shells. Sorry, but the AP spam is nothing more comfortable than HE. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ferrariman15 Players 10 posts 757 battles Report post #16 Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) Well at least some of you understand what I'm talking about. It extremely frustrating when you are being HE spammed continually by a cruiser who can fire so frequently it doesn't really matter how much they aim. I'm certainly not under the belief that a BB should one shot a cruiser easily. BUT when fired two salvos at a cruiser to one get one shot that does any kind of real damage is just a joke when they have done loads and loads of damage from the HE spam. I don't enjoy playing BB's any more so therefore I won't. If you all think I being salty for no reason I don't really care. The reason I played BB's was for the skill involved especially when in a decent fight with another BB. Edited September 20, 2016 by ferrariman15 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLOBS] Spellfire40 Beta Tester 5,330 posts 13,776 battles Report post #17 Posted September 20, 2016 I got burned down in my Gneisenau (or Shinyhorse) by a retreating Atlanta. The thing is, I was playing it all wrong. I should have disengaged and let him come to me, instead I kept pressing forward and died because of fire. So, it's not the cruiser's fault I got killed, it was my own. I should have lured him back to our team, but sometimes it's like a ship is waving a red flag and says "come get me". Sometimes the bull gets the matador, but this time I got speared. dont expect any sypathy If the most situational ship in the game set you on fire and kill you. Depending on the Map you die in it without ever geting into range its rather gg to the Atlanta player. Wonder you didnt run him into the ground since your faster thogh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordMeru Players 394 posts 12,229 battles Report post #18 Posted September 20, 2016 Well at least some of you understand what I'm talking about. It extremely frustrating when you are being HE spammed continually by a cruiser who can fire so frequently it doesn't really matter how much they aim. I'm certainly not under the belief that a BB should one shot a cruiser easily. BUT when fired two salvos at a cruiser to one get one shot that does any kind of real damage is just a joke when they have done loads and loads of damage from the HE spam. I don't enjoy playing BB's any more so therefore I won't. If you all think I being salty for no reason I don't really care. The reason I played BB's was for the skill involved especially when in a decent fight with another BB. The fight is not BB against BB, is fleet against fleet... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAVOC] Niibler Players 723 posts Report post #19 Posted September 20, 2016 I reckon we could do with a seperate BBaby whine forum section. Me thinking Gameplay section was it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OLDG] Verence196 Players 313 posts 7,457 battles Report post #20 Posted September 20, 2016 OP: How precisely do you figure that a single player sailing alone somehow has the right to fully counter two other players? All else being equal a BB should trump a single CA. But two? If you're able to sink the enemy ships or otherwise escape such a trap, good on you. If you're not, don't complain over it. You simply got yourself into a situation where two good enemy players had the better of you. (Although you claim there was no skill involved, they were clearly good enough to sail together, concentrate their fire and stay far enough away from you that your RNG kicked in.) In short - RNG is there for a reason. It means that good CA players - especially when they team up - have a chance to take down enemy BBs. No ship is immune from any other ship, no matter the class. If it was otherwise, the game would be pretty much unplayable. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #21 Posted September 20, 2016 You have my sympathy but was there two CAs ?if so it's rare to escape if you are on your own. And what was you sailing in? I love my BBs but these days it pays to go round in a gang. Not just in these days, this is a team game of course you should stick with your team in a BB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEPES] VeteranGamer84 Players 1,314 posts 52,321 battles Report post #22 Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) I played the four classes and the most class I find really fun to play is the "Destroyers". If you want fun gameplay try the "Destroyers" class. Edited September 20, 2016 by ABED1984 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kastike Players 188 posts 3,803 battles Report post #23 Posted September 20, 2016 ... constant HE spam for which there is no skill required, ... I really, really suggest that you try this no skill mode. Just - lets say 50 or so games above tier5 with those easy mode cruisers. Do this and I will promise to like your soon coming "stupid BBs and their 'remove cruiser' ability". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ferrariman15 Players 10 posts 757 battles Report post #24 Posted September 20, 2016 OP: How precisely do you figure that a single player sailing alone somehow has the right to fully counter two other players? All else being equal a BB should trump a single CA. But two? If you're able to sink the enemy ships or otherwise escape such a trap, good on you. If you're not, don't complain over it. You simply got yourself into a situation where two good enemy players had the better of you. (Although you claim there was no skill involved, they were clearly good enough to sail together, concentrate their fire and stay far enough away from you that your RNG kicked in.) In short - RNG is there for a reason. It means that good CA players - especially when they team up - have a chance to take down enemy BBs. No ship is immune from any other ship, no matter the class. If it was otherwise, the game would be pretty much unplayable. Two? When did I mention two? I said there was ONE cruiser who was sailing behind me who was spamming HE at me continually. Because of the continual HE spam they managed to set me on fire repeatedly. I used my damage control ability as you. I held my fire back at them until I had a fairly decent shot at the side of their ship as I was manoeuvring. For both salvos the RNG gods were taking the mickey with shots going long and short and over pens. Only one shot caused any damage of 4000. Yet their constant HE spam sank me. After that I've got sick of playing BB's, as it seemingly doesn't matter how well you try and play when the RNG has such a massive influence on the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ferrariman15 Players 10 posts 757 battles Report post #25 Posted September 20, 2016 I played the four classes and the most class I find really fun to play is the "Destroyers". If you want fun gameplay try the "Destroyers" class. Ow I enjoyed playing DD's immensely and there is a lot of skill required to play DD's well. I may jump back into DD's again in the future but I'm sick of playing BB's and getting HE spammed by cruisers for which you have to rely on the RNG gods to hit them. Every noticed that most games are predominately cruisers? Wonder why! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites