[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #26 Posted September 21, 2016 I thought only 16"+ From my battles on the PT you can shoot at something bow in with AP in the Bismarck and it'll do some damage. Not loads and not a cit but enough for them to not to camp bow in. I'm actually coming round to it but I think it's a buff for German ships and the Amagi. German stuff because they have strong all round armour anyway and Amagi because it never had any immunity zones but has the biggest salvo of the T8 BB. USN ships are harmed the most as their high tier ships were weaker from the sides and needed a bit of frontal armour... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuccaneerBill Players 513 posts 11,276 battles Report post #27 Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) Yea kind of US nerf. What I'm afraid of is hoards of Zao's n such with 40% less rudder time. Practically invincible!!!! Like that ship needed a buff. Stacks with the 20% rudder time module too no doubt. End of T10 BB for me. Edited September 21, 2016 by BuccaneerBill 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LEGIO] LadyJess Players 154 posts Report post #28 Posted September 21, 2016 Facing 60 to 70 degree angle helps somewhat in the test but, is not perfect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zogash85 Beta Tester 516 posts 4,160 battles Report post #29 Posted September 22, 2016 Didn't notice much of a difference playing the Bismarck and the FdG on the PT, tbh. Tried penning a bow-on FdG with my own FdG at ~5km and did meh damage. If you hit anywhere but the keel, the angle will still make you auto-bounce most shells. Just because it's possible now doesn't mean it's likely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuccaneerBill Players 513 posts 11,276 battles Report post #30 Posted September 22, 2016 Isn't the FdG keeping a 30mm bow so it will bounce everything but Yamato still. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xBaD_BoYxBG Players 8 posts 7,991 battles Report post #31 Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) tell me a CA that has more Range than your standart High Tier BB MOSKVA have same range like Kurfurst ! Hindenburg 20.7 . Tell me when you hit some cruiser from 20km with BB. If your lucky and hit CA will gonna make 1350 dmg. CA make by 5 000 HE DMG every 10 seconds +/- . Tell me how you will gonna win vs Zao with stealth fire 1vs1 when you cant see him ? That is very , very stupid. You wana have more realistik game - OK. WWII new mexico with 1 saldo detonated 4 DDs. Do it in the game and i will delete my profile. Bismark detonate CA with first shoot. okay , you maybe play CAs or DDs but have and players like me. I like to play BB and i wana be factor like other players. You can shoot me 15 min. with stealth fire with your DD or CA , you can torp me, you can take 90% of my Health before to make mistake and when you make mistake and i try to deffence my self - i make 1 350 dmg with my Yamato ( 460mm guns). Where is youre problem to kill me then when you left more then 50 000 HP. Maybe you gonna tell me " unskilled player" . Well if you are skilled guys invete me in the game EU server Nickanem: xBaD_BoYxBG . Take some BB and choice some CA for me i have all tier 10 CAs. If someone of you kill me i will give him my profile and never will play that game again. the Battleships have to be factor ( they are in WWII). It's not real some little zao, des moines, hindenburg or moskva to kill Yamato, Iowa 1vs1 it's not real. It's not real to kill 2 Yamatos with my Zao 2vs1 ( wast night i do it) It's not real to kill Montana with my Gearing only with guns ( at 1 smoke time) because i make him by 3 500 +/- DMG every 2 second and when she shoot me - make me by 1 350 DMG. And she have no time to shoot second time because i kill her. It's not real to kill Kurfurst with my Des moines face to face from 7 km. And he cant do nothing 'coz i shoot every 6 seconds and make by 10 000 DMG with AP sheals. If that is real for you and have no changes in this game she will die very soon. I play all lines ( BB , DD , CA , CV ) and BB is only one line where have no chance vs ship from other 3 lines ( if enemy player have little skills). Edited September 26, 2016 by xBaD_BoYxBG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xBaD_BoYxBG Players 8 posts 7,991 battles Report post #32 Posted September 26, 2016 If you're struggling thats says more about you and your poor ability to get the most out of some of the most powerful ships in the game, that and using them to snipe from 20km away proves you're crap. If you want an excercise in frustration go play higher tier CAs and see what happens, they're completely nuked by BBs and so the only viable strategy is HE spamming. If this gets sniping scrubs off their arses then so much the better, and if they get citadel'd through the bow by plunging fire, even better. Well i can give you my youtube chanel and you can se how i play. Many times im the only one agresive player in my team, but not stupud. I keep 10-15 km rage when have enemy DDs if they die i egage or stayng in close range. But i cant go more closer to theyr CAs when they have 2 hight tier BBs supp and im alone, the only one chance is to hit them from max range. If we kill and theyr BBs i cant go closer again, because they run of me and shoot me . With BB i have no speed like CA . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ARGTK] argoteck Players 37 posts 9,982 battles Report post #33 Posted September 26, 2016 http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Moskva http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Gro%C3%9Fer_Kurf%C3%BCrst http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Hindenburg So what do you want? Same speed as ca, armour as bb and turning like dd? They can invisifire you ? You want to outrun them ? Lets make the game World of Battleships ! Sound like a cat that want mice to come to her and blame them because they can run faster. Your real problems is the lack of teamplay in game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xBaD_BoYxBG Players 8 posts 7,991 battles Report post #34 Posted September 26, 2016 http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Moskva http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Gro%C3%9Fer_Kurf%C3%BCrst http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Hindenburg So what do you want? Same speed as ca, armour as bb and turning like dd? They can invisifire you ? You want to outrun them ? Lets make the game World of Battleships ! Sound like a cat that want mice to come to her and blame them because they can run faster. Your real problems is the lack of teamplay in game. Nope i want BB to be factor. BB no need of speed. I want the game where was before. No problem run with you CAs and shoot from 20 km. Before few months when BB hit some cruiser is citadel - and that is real BB have more powerfull guns and CAs have no good armor... Game was nice before kids ( maybe like you) to came with no skills and after 500 games they cry in the forum ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ARGTK] argoteck Players 37 posts 9,982 battles Report post #35 Posted September 26, 2016 I`m not a kid and also i dont cry. It is you the one who cry about his precious BB unable to kill everything in game when you play solo . Think about that. In real world and in game also a good shot can one kill a ca. But also in real world and in game too is hard to hit a ca, harder than a bb, because of greater maneuverability. Use to it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloodynicknames Players 557 posts 16,702 battles Report post #36 Posted September 26, 2016 BB Players crying about being unable to kill CAs ... now i really have seen it all. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ARGTK] argoteck Players 37 posts 9,982 battles Report post #37 Posted September 26, 2016 He said that before new kids without skill in game , bb gameplay was easyer. What is more easyer to hit than a noob ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmartassNoob Players 723 posts 5,774 battles Report post #38 Posted September 26, 2016 I noticed someone above complained about the New Mexico. I hunt DDs with it all the time when the cruisers have escaped my range, or more likely when as usual friendly cruisers have allowed DDs to pass them while they're still spaming HE at enemy cruisers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #39 Posted September 27, 2016 So... just saw the patch notes. Has this armor change been quietly dropped? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geLaden Players 46 posts 4,858 battles Report post #40 Posted September 27, 2016 So... just saw the patch notes. Has this armor change been quietly dropped? They even announced it if i remember well. It was said that feedback from community and data mined from PT made them drop the armor nerf all together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #41 Posted September 27, 2016 They even announced it if i remember well. It was said that feedback from community and data mined from PT made them drop the armor nerf all together. OK, guess I just wasn't paying attention. Well, +1 for them listening to the community but my own personal opinion is that's a shame, would have been a good change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites