SmartassNoob Players 723 posts 5,774 battles Report post #1 Posted September 19, 2016 http://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/public-test/public-test-0512/ "The armour thickness of standard Tier VIII-X battleships has been decreased. This change will allow players to penetrate these ships in their bows when using large-calibre AP shells. Their previous armour thickness values allowed players to turn their bows towards the enemy, especially in high tier battles, and decrease or even fully negate any damage by AP shells. This resulted in players deviating from the intended role of the ship class." Ideas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,140 battles Report post #2 Posted September 19, 2016 That is what it reads on the homepage and the discussion thread for 0.5.12. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hateshinaku WoWs Wiki Team, Players, Sailing Hamster, Modder 1,625 posts 2,725 battles Report post #3 Posted September 19, 2016 Wargaming balance doesn´t work it never did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #4 Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) http://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/public-test/public-test-0512/ "The armour thickness of standard Tier VIII-X battleships has been decreased. This change will allow players to penetrate these ships in their bows when using large-calibre AP shells. Their previous armour thickness values allowed players to turn their bows towards the enemy, especially in high tier battles, and decrease or even fully negate any damage by AP shells. This resulted in players deviating from the intended role of the ship class." Ideas? Tier 8-10 BB bow and aft armour are reduced to 28 mm. Exceptions : Tirpitz keeps its 32 mm bow and aft armour, FG bow and aft armour are nerfed from 32 to to 30 mm Edited September 19, 2016 by Darth_Glorious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmartassNoob Players 723 posts 5,774 battles Report post #5 Posted September 19, 2016 That is what it reads on the homepage and the discussion thread for 0.5.12. You don't expect me to read all the 50 sub-forums, do you? The info is relevant to BBs and this is the BB forum. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostRiderMax123 ∞ Players 769 posts 3,782 battles Report post #6 Posted September 19, 2016 Anything changed on the Yamato??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmartassNoob Players 723 posts 5,774 battles Report post #7 Posted September 19, 2016 Not known yet. The test was just announced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,140 battles Report post #8 Posted September 19, 2016 You don't expect me to read all the 50 sub-forums, do you? The info is relevant to BBs and this is the BB forum. No, not really, but you asked for ideas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXx_Blogis_xXx Alpha Tester, Players 5,335 posts 35,510 battles Report post #9 Posted September 19, 2016 ah tnx for info mate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RUMR] Whistlersmom Players 36 posts 11,855 battles Report post #10 Posted September 19, 2016 ...Does this mean my Montana will be able to pen stuff? :o Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #11 Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) Anything changed on the Yamato??? Yamato won't ignore 406mm fired at it anymore Edited September 20, 2016 by Darth_Glorious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] Origin47 Beta Tester 434 posts 10,684 battles Report post #12 Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) Well, if they want BBs to cap more by taking their tanking away, this is certainly the right approach. Edited September 20, 2016 by Origin47 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuccaneerBill Players 513 posts 11,276 battles Report post #13 Posted September 20, 2016 Bow in has always been stupid. Their is no armour in the bow in most ships, so having the hull plating bounce 1200kg 16" shells, or any large shells for that matter, has always been stupid. You can still go, just angled. Best get learning em armour profiles! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xBaD_BoYxBG Players 8 posts 7,991 battles Report post #14 Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) That is so stupid nerf i play BBs ( player from beta version) and have more then 4000+ Ranked, Team and random battles. I told you guys BBs are nerfed so much... I Cant kill no one hight tier CA because i cant see him and they have more range then my BB, Shooting more faster and make by 7000+ DMG to BBs with every single shoot . When i hit CA from 20 km range ( because they no need to came closer or using stealth fire) i make by 1350 dmg and that with Yamato , Montana or Kurfurs... Now they will nerf BBs again and will buff CAs. Wargaming tell me when you nerf BBs armor why i have to learn Montana ( if im new player) when i can kill her with North Carolina or Tirpitz or Colorado ??? Guys Before few months BBs were a factor. You change the gameplay so much and now BB can't kill no one ship 1vs1 i mean DD CA or CV.... I think BBs have to be the monsters of the sea but they are nobodies, they are joke P.C. And belive me im not new player i have 7 tier X ships and soon will take my number 8 and 9 Edited September 21, 2016 by xBaD_BoYxBG 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KaraMon Players 4,154 posts 9,221 battles Report post #15 Posted September 21, 2016 Don't play BB problem solved they are useless anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillydSquid Players 671 posts Report post #16 Posted September 21, 2016 xBaD_BoYxBG, on 21 September 2016 - 06:25 AM, said: That is so stupid nerf i play BBs ( player from beta version) and have more then 4000+ Ranked, Team and random battles. I told you guys BBs are nerfed so much... I Cant kill no one hight tier CA because i cant see him and they have more range then my BB, Shooting more faster and make by 7000+ DMG to BBs with every single shoot . When i hit CA from 20 km range ( because they no need to came closer or using stealth fire) i make by 1350 dmg and that with Yamato , Montana or Kurfurs... Now they will nerf BBs again and will buff CAs. Wargaming tell me when you nerf BBs armor why i have to learn Montana ( if im new player) when i can kill her with North Carolina or Tirpitz or Colorado ??? Guys Before few months BBs were a factor. You change the gameplay so much and now BB can't kill no one ship 1vs1 i mean DD CA or CV.... I think BBs have to be the monsters of the sea but they are nobodies, they are joke P.C. And belive me im not new player i have 7 tier X ships and soon will take my number 8 and 9 If you're struggling thats says more about you and your poor ability to get the most out of some of the most powerful ships in the game, that and using them to snipe from 20km away proves you're crap. If you want an excercise in frustration go play higher tier CAs and see what happens, they're completely nuked by BBs and so the only viable strategy is HE spamming. If this gets sniping scrubs off their arses then so much the better, and if they get citadel'd through the bow by plunging fire, even better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #17 Posted September 21, 2016 Tirp keeps it but Bismarck doesn't?! Also it's an Amagi buff as it essentially strengthens her guns as you can pen bow in guys now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillydSquid Players 671 posts Report post #18 Posted September 21, 2016 Tirp keeps it but Bismarck doesn't?! Also it's an Amagi buff as it essentially strengthens her guns as you can pen bow in guys now. I'm okay with the changes too, but I'm not happy about the Tirpitz keeping the 32mm armour. That's Pay2Win [edited]. If the Bismark and all other T8-10 have their 32mm bow plates reduced then the Tirpitz should as well. I have a Tirpitz, and I'm still arguing for the armour change to be applied. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Comrad_StaIin Beta Tester 4,594 posts 20,080 battles Report post #19 Posted September 21, 2016 they have more range then my BB, tell me a CA that has more Range than your standart High Tier BB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuccaneerBill Players 513 posts 11,276 battles Report post #20 Posted September 21, 2016 More concerned about 40% less rudder time for cruisers. Could be annoying as... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #21 Posted September 21, 2016 I'm okay with the changes too, but I'm not happy about the Tirpitz keeping the 32mm armour. That's Pay2Win [edited]. If the Bismark and all other T8-10 have their 32mm bow plates reduced then the Tirpitz should as well. I have a Tirpitz, and I'm still arguing for the armour change to be applied. I wouldn't say its P2W as people paid for a particular ship and would rage if WG nerfed. Also it'll give the Tirp and Bis a bit of a difference as currently the Bismarck is massively better imo because of the secondaries. Still though, the bow armour is one thing that didn't need changing... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fysman Players 21 posts 7,250 battles Report post #22 Posted September 21, 2016 Bismarck is gonna suffer. Already has kinda crappy armor, except she can't be citadeled thing. Burns like hell too... Tbh glad i kept Gneiss. Dunno what BB(all t8 unlocked) to use in ranked tho since t7 is of the table.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #23 Posted September 21, 2016 Using Bismarck on the PT, it still seems very strong. In some ways without invincible bow armour it seems to change the dynamic a little. Even 15" Bismarck guns can overmatch bows now so it's an end to the slow in camping maybe. We'll see though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmartassNoob Players 723 posts 5,774 battles Report post #24 Posted September 21, 2016 It's always seemed confusing to me that a BB that's facing the enemy has invincible armor, even tho the front wall of the citadel would be at 90 degrees. A diagonal one should be the one with the most armor, because all the armor plates are at an angle. + Real BBs were designed to "cross the T", so they could use all turrets, meaning that the side armor is obviously designed to be better than the front armor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuccaneerBill Players 513 posts 11,276 battles Report post #25 Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) Using Bismarck on the PT, it still seems very strong. In some ways without invincible bow armour it seems to change the dynamic a little. Even 15" Bismarck guns can overmatch bows now so it's an end to the slow in camping maybe. We'll see though... I thought only 16"+ It's always seemed confusing to me that a BB that's facing the enemy has invincible armor, even tho the front wall of the citadel would be at 90 degrees. A diagonal one should be the one with the most armor, because all the armor plates are at an angle. + Real BBs were designed to "cross the T", so they could use all turrets, meaning that the side armor is obviously designed to be better than the front armor. yea some seem are more designed for head on with angled frontal plates like Yamato iirc. Edited September 21, 2016 by BuccaneerBill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
