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RN cruisers dont have to be different or unique, only have to be playable

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Probably wasting my time because EU forum is invisible for devs, but, as the title said, RN cruisers don t have to be different, to have an unique gameplay or whatnot, just have to be playable and useful. No need to invent some strange or unique mojo, because the chances to screw up are too big, just make them playable and balanced.

 

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And not too frustrating to play against as a battleship, cause tears will be shed if our BB overlords get hurt.

/trollface

IMO what they need to do is to capture the spirit of the nation's cruisers. Multipurpose support units with good long lasting radars. Single torp salvos wiĺl be good if the torps are good, and british torpedoes were the best if we dont count the japanese ones. So stealth torp capability would be nice. Mediocre HE and AP, no need to focus on one or the other. And nice accuracy.
 

 

IMO they have gone too far in trying to give each new line a gimmick. Individual torpedo launch is a gimmick enough.

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Probably wasting my time because EU forum is invisible for devs, but, as the title said, RN cruisers don t have to be different, to have an unique gameplay or whatnot, just have to be playable and useful. No need to invent some strange or unique mojo, because the chances to screw up are too big, just make them playable and balanced.

 

:sceptic:

 

I cannot agree more. Big chunk, perhaps even the most, of game balance problems which persist today started in alpha, when the devs decided to forcefully widen the "national differences" gap.
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I agree. Would like to see rather national characteristics instead of "gimmick ". Gimmicks can be fun but it is a thin line - too much of it and it becomes cartoonish

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Disagree. We already have three cruiser lines which are mixed bags. Adding a fourth one just for the reason to have another one, wouldn´t add too much to the game.

I can fully understand the want and need of the RN fans, but i´d rather see a pretty unique, new cruiser line with special traits, than just another pack of content thrown into the game half hearted.

With the right balance, the british light cruisers with their rather small guns, could be turned into absolutely great escort ships, perfect for AAA defense and destroyer hunting, finally filling the slot of cruisers being a "DD-counter".

Accurate guns would be required, but considering the rate of fire of those guns, the balance has to be kept to prevent those CLs from turning into lowbob HE-spammers.

There is so much potential with these CLs, i really want so see it being used. So many opportunities of great potential already have been wasted in this game, i don´t require another one...

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... absolutely great escort ships, perfect for AAA defense and destroyer hunting, finally filling the slot of cruisers being a "DD-counter".

I think you didnt see soviet cruisers...

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I do want each line to be unique. What's the point of having slightly differently-performing ships with a different flag on them? What's there to be excited about? ''Oh man, I can't wait to grind basically the same ships all over again, but with a Union Jack on them this time!'' I'm not a WW2 history buff, I don't know how these ships historically stacked up against the ones we have, but since I love games, of course I want vehicles that are different and have distinctive features to them, enhancing the array of playstyles available to me. As long as it's not the exact opposite of how these ships performed IRL, I don't mind if the devs take liberties in favor of making the game interesting.

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i already decided not gona grind these lolantas with poor arc

 

If only those would turn out to be Lolantas. But sadly they won't.

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Disagree. We already have three cruiser lines which are mixed bags. Adding a fourth one just for the reason to have another one, wouldn´t add too much to the game.

I can fully understand the want and need of the RN fans, but i´d rather see a pretty unique, new cruiser line with special traits, than just another pack of content thrown into the game half hearted.

With the right balance, the british light cruisers with their rather small guns, could be turned into absolutely great escort ships, perfect for AAA defense and destroyer hunting, finally filling the slot of cruisers being a "DD-counter".

Accurate guns would be required, but considering the rate of fire of those guns, the balance has to be kept to prevent those CLs from turning into lowbob HE-spammers.

There is so much potential with these CLs, i really want so see it being used. So many opportunities of great potential already have been wasted in this game, i don´t require another one...

 

Problem is, we dont need more DD counters, we need more BB counters to make already existing DD counters work. As in give a chance for current radar or hydro cruisers to survive on a distances where they can use those against DD`s. Alternatively, make CV`s come back, they are best counter against DD`s there is. My point is, if UK CL`s will be just specialised DD hunter with good AA, they will be pretty useless in current meta, dominated by battleships, while all-rounders would be at least playable.
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I do want each line to be unique. What's the point of having slightly differently-performing ships with a different flag on them? What's there to be excited about? ''Oh man, I can't wait to grind basically the same ships all over again, but with a Union Jack on them this time!'' I'm not a WW2 history buff, I don't know how these ships historically stacked up against the ones we have, but since I love games, of course I want vehicles that are different and have distinctive features to them, enhancing the array of playstyles available to me. As long as it's not the exact opposite of how these ships performed IRL, I don't mind if the devs take liberties in favor of making the game interesting.

 

I think each of the cruiser lines we have now has a unique distinctiive playstyle an that can be done for brit cruisers too without gimmicking them up.

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i already decided not gona grind these lolantas with poor arc

 

You have already decided based on old information.  Odd.  I won't be making a decision until I actually know how they will play.

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The British have protected the world for centuries and that's how they say thank you?

 

Man, you are funny. :D
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The British have protected the world for centuries and that's how they say thank you?

Erm well each each to there own, not sure India, Canada, New Zealand etc would agree but I admire your optimism

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The British have protected the world for centuries and that's how they say thank you?

Erm well each each to there own, not sure India, Canada, New Zealand etc would agree but I admire your optimism.

I hope the Royal Navy is not a flop like British tanks in WOTs.

 

I'm Russian biased yea (who would have guessed) but I feel the devs are alarmed at the current meta gameplay of he spam everything that moves.

 

Yea I am guilty of this too, but maybe the changes they are making to the RN light cruisers will be great.

 

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The only things they need to differentiate them from the US and Soviet ships are a few little quirks like maybe better concealment, longer AA barrage... maybe better agility too. Massive diametric differences lead to one trick ponies which are either great or utterly useless... 

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Cant remember surely but the british tanks werent all that bad in WoT.

 

Slow, big, no armor, weak damaging gun with trollololo rng penetration. Yeah I remember the British tanks well lol. 

 

Just do not want the Royal Navy to fail as there is a lot of interest for them despite the troll whiners crying for over a year I know friends, family and random players who are excited and waited patiently for them. 

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For all those people that think so little of the RN if it wasn't for the RN russia would have lost their war if it had not been for the bravery of the royal navy getting supplies to them, pretty sure the sailor's who died doing it would rather have remained wi their families, than die in the ice cold sea, the russians could not even muster ships to meet them.

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For all those people that think so little of the RN if it wasn't for the RN russia would have lost their war if it had not been for the bravery of the royal navy getting supplies to them, pretty sure the sailor's who died doing it would rather have remained wi their families, than die in the ice cold sea, the russians could not even muster ships to meet them.

 

What is with this political bs. Who is saying Britain is and was nothing? Perhaps learn to read before posting off topic bs.

 

Perhaps understand it was a joint operation between allies during the war. If you want to wave your victory banner remember something else... It was also Russian merchant naval men doing the convoys, it was thanks to the Russian eastern front that England was not invaded during operation sea lion. It was also the Russian invasion into the Baltic states that allowed operation Neptune to succeed.

 

Now please quote who said Britain was not entitled to be in the game? To support  your rant.

 

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For all those people that think so little of the RN if it wasn't for the RN russia would have lost their war if it had not been for the bravery of the royal navy getting supplies to them, pretty sure the sailor's who died doing it would rather have remained wi their families, than die in the ice cold sea, the russians could not even muster ships to meet them.

 

This is not a historical discussion, gtfo.

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View PostKittykami, on 17 September 2016 - 12:17 PM, said:

longer AA barrage

 

Making the one cruiser line that really needs some love even more mediocre.

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Slow, big, no armor, weak damaging gun with trollololo rng penetration. Yeah I remember the British tanks well lol. 

 

Just do not want the Royal Navy to fail as there is a lot of interest for them despite the troll whiners crying for over a year I know friends, family and random players who are excited and waited patiently for them. 

 

Great gun depression, good accuracy, good pen.

 

Wanna talk  bout troll tanks look at the russian heavies. Aiming circle the size of Mars and accuracy to boot. Only good at brawling

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