New Japanese Destroyers - a Sneak Peek

[voulezvous]

Ahoy captains!

 

I have the pleasure of giving you a chance to peek into what's coming to the IJN destroyer lines.

This graphic shows the tiers and how the tech tree is being split:

 

Some extra information:

New ships are distributed among both torpedo- and gun-centered branches

• Akatsuki class is a follow-up on Fubuki class
• Shiratsuyu same for Hatsuharu class
• Yugumo same for Kagero
• Because of this, these ships are pretty similar to their predecessors, but their improved construction often allowed them to be slightly sturdier or to carry heavier armament
• Akizuki is an all-new ship diverging completely from the mainstream design school - a destroyer designed not to sink capital ships, but to fight smaller vessels and improve anti-aircraft defence - its unique design sacrifices half the torpedoes of Kagero class to carry a powerful battery of 8 100mm dual purpose guns

 

Below you will find four videos giving you a sneak peek into what you can expect from them!

 

 

 

 

 

Action Stations!

 

[GenerallKrizmuz]

BB mafia never fails. From BB hunters to light cruisers with AA

 

 

[Kais_S012]

how about some word on how players who have already progressed past the ships that are being moved/altered etc will be compensated?

 

I've gotten as far as the Mutsuki for example, will I get one of the 'new' tier 6 DDs are a replacement?

[Sailor_Bear]

Thanks for the post

 

[Shirakami_Kon]

Akizuki 33 knots top speed, GG.

[CLyDeThaMonKeY]

Lookin forward to it

 

[MrFingers]

From the portal;

 Of course, to those who have already upgraded all the ships the changes will be covered, so there is no need to upgrade your favourite ships one more time.

 

What is meant with that? And what about those who spend $$$ in buying a premium camo for a specific ship?

[Pajosaurus]

Looking forward to these beauties.

 

[Unintentional_submarine]

Nice videos, but they are faulty.

 

Shiratsuyu with 3x2 guns (just look at the ship)? Or Akatsuki with 4x25mm AA guns, when it is clearly visible that it is 4x3 25mm (they are all four visible in the video)... that is four triples, which is sort of different.

With such basic mistakes in, how reliable is the other information, which is rather basic.

[Kurbain]

BB mafia never fails. From BB hunters to light cruisers with AA

 

I would say they are a bigger threat to battleships as HE spammers than torpedo boats.

Avoiding torpedoes has never been an issue for good battleship captains, but even a good battleship captain can do little against being set on fire repeatedly by stealth-firing ships.

 

Just look at how powerful the Udaloi and Khabarovsk are at the moment and those don't even fire from stealth.

[creamgravy]

Can't wait to try them out  

 

Well, apart for poor old Mutsuki with 6km torpedoes, can't you leave her alone for once? Oh and Shiratsuyu doesn't have a 3x2 gun layout as stated in the video

(Edit: beaten like a RN CL)

[T_H_0_R]

Contemplating between moving my 18pt Fubuki captain on Akatsuki or Akizuki... Decisions, decisions... 

 

From the portal;

 

What is meant with that? And what about those who spend $$$ in buying a premium camo for a specific ship?

 

That. I have premium camo on Fubuki. What will hapen when it drops to T6? Will I get 2000 dublon refund or will it be replaced with Kagero on T8 with premium camo? Can I opt for Akizuki with premium camo instead???

 

 

I would say they are a bigger threat to battleships as HE spammers than torpedo boats.
Avoiding torpedoes has never been an issue for good battleship captains, but even a good battleship captain can do little against being set on fire repeatedly by stealth-firing ships.

Just look at how powerful the Udaloi and Khabarovsk are at the moment and those don't even fire from stealth.

 

Correct.

[GenerallKrizmuz]

I would say they are a bigger threat to battleships as HE spammers than torpedo boats.

Avoiding torpedoes has never been an issue for good battleship captains, but even a good battleship captain can do little against being set on fire repeatedly by stealth-firing ships.

Khaba goes 45knots lol

IJN 33 kn machine will be raped on the spot

 

And it's about removing an unique gamestyle as you said, moving closer to USSR DD or cruiser or some crap

[ColonelPete]

If you want the IJN DD Torpedoboat branch to get close and personal, make sure that they are fast and nimble.

It does not work if the ship sails like a light cruiser.

[Elenortirion]

I'd only like to point out that great majority of IJN destroyers were not designed to sink capital ships....

 

they were designed as an ESCORT ships

[to protect their own capital ships from enemy aircraft and submarines]

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

 

In my port I currently have a tier 2, tier 3, tier 4, tier 5 and tier 6 IJN destroyer (actually two tier 5 counting the Kamikaze R)

After the reorganisation of Japanese Destroyer I expect to be given a tier 6 DD of my choice to replace the tier 6 (Mutsuki) that is being demoted to tier 5.

 

I think that this is a reasonable request - but I may be missing something. What do others think?

 

[gawaing]

I read that you want wipe out the long lance... ARE YOU SERIOUS????, Why don't you eliminate all branch?

[T_H_0_R]

I read that you want wipe out the long lance... ARE YOU SERIOUS????, Why don't you eliminate all branch?

 

Just eliminate the 20km ones. Thank you. You don't need more than 12km to begin with.

[Jengkins]

Akizuki 33 knots top speed, GG.

 

Historical accurate. Anyway high concealment, 3sec. reload and 10km torps might do the job of balance to speed.

[GenerallKrizmuz]

 

Just eliminate the 20km ones. Thank you. You don't need more than 12km to begin with.

 

That has already happened. And if anybody gets hit (more than 1-2 torps) by 62kn 2.5 km detection 20km torps he deserves the Darwin Award

[Kais_S012]

 

That has already happened. And if anybody gets hit by 62kn 2.5 km detection 20km torps he deserves the Darwin Award

 

that... acutally sounds a like a gag medal that should be in game

 

Darwin-award: Be sunk by a torpedo that had been spotted by friendly ships or aircraft 2.5km or greater away away from your ship!

[Kurbain]

Khaba goes 45 43 knots lol

IJN 33 kn machine will be raped on the spot

 

I have to admit the speed is a bit of an issue. Considering there are cruisers in this game that sail at 36 knots such as the Shchors and Molotov, the Akizuki definitely deserves more than 33.

[creamgravy]

I'd get a Darwin achievement every game 

 

[Ictogan]

I'd only like to point out that great majority of IJN destroyers were not designed to sink capital ships....

 

they were designed as an ESCORT ships

[to protect their own capital ships from enemy aircraft and submarines]

 

A destroyer is by definition an escort ship, yes. This doesn't only apply to IJN Destroyers but also to any other destroyer. But IRL, DDs were ridiculously weak when compared to cruisers or even BBs. So why would anyone ever want to play DDs if they were simply the weakest class?

Which is why WG brought in a type of the rock paper scissors concept where DDs counter BBs, BBs counter CL/CAs and CL/CAs counter DDs. It doesn't actually work quite that way in game, but there's still plenty of justification for in game destroyers to have a different role from real life destroyers.

[Shirakami_Kon]

 

Historical accurate. Anyway high concealment, 3sec. reload and 10km torps might do the job of balance to speed.

 

Yes I know, when the split was announced I searched about the new ships and I saw that. What I meant there is basically... well... GenerallKrizmuz said all for me.

 

Khaba goes 45knots lol

IJN 33 kn machine will be raped on the spot

 

And it's about removing an unique gamestyle as you said, moving closer to USSR DD or cruiser or some crap

 

Looks like Akizuki will be the only real functional gunboat that the split gives, but for tier 8, 33 knots it's horrendous. On the other hand it looks like Akizuki will not have any problems to stealth fire, but the second she gets spotted she will get murdered. DDs are WAY faster, even cruisers will outspeed her, Atago runs 35'5 knots and Mogami 35 if I remember correctly. FFS, Gneisenau is a BB and gets to 32 knots and Iowa was 33? At tier 8 Akizuki can't outrun anything. That was my point.

 

Wouldn't she be better at a lower tier? Yes, she has a really good reload time and turns that actually turn more like a gunboat FINALLY for an IJN DD and there's the HE spam thing, but they're only 100 mm guns, I think with the armor things have al tier 8+ almost the only damage Akizuki will manage with guns on BBs will be because of those fires since since the normalization changes weird stuff happens. For example I was playing the Tachibana in tier 2 with the 72 mm the other day, shooting HE at enemy Umikazes and such and Umikazes blocked, yes BLOCKED the 72 mm HE shells, for 0 damage. Now think of the armor a Umikaze has for that. 16 mm? I bet it's 16 mm armor max, if she even has that much armor. 102 mm it's not that much difference and the armor of anything that's not a DD has greatly increased at T8. And again add to that that she can't flee from anything and...