Is German BB's brawling days over?

[Fionia_DK]

I noticed that IJN and US BB's have found a way to deal with german BB's. They use HE.
The fire on my FDG and Kurfurst is very intense, so much I usually die. It's not only CA's and DD's using HE, it's also Montana's and Yamato's. Add the bombs from AC and it's a constant fire. 

 

To counter this I have to fight on a longer distance. Thus not much brawling.

 

I wonder if WG have seen that one comming? I do think the german BB's was intended to go in close.

 

If they want me to brawl, they have to give me better fire protection. 

 

What is your opinion?

 

 

Fionia

[Slezman]

I hate fires but they must provide to other ships their chance. Trying to live with that even if it is really annoying. German BBs are still providing nice results and the brawl takes its place as well but later and in suitable situations.

[CLyDeThaMonKeY]

Why use HE? When u can easily do consistent damage if you shoot the superstructure. I even do reliable damage to other german BBs with the Scharnwurst even.

[aboomination]

Those who truly brawl will get lit up by the secondaries all the time anyway - that's manly 

 

[Khul]

Don't worry, they're nerfing the IJN torp boats, you can't get citadelled anyway, & they're sure to turn the nerfbat to HE fire soon (or make cruisers spontaneously explode when a battleship misses them or something).

You'll be safe soon.

[Richydog]

Oh you mean like the cruisers have, that have to go in and brawl every game.  Even though you are lucky to get 2 per side these days. 

[IceyJones]

the HE meta becomes stronger and stonger, killing all fun and skill.....but this applies to all BBs and will lead to even more camping.

 

yesterday my yamato got BBQed in ONE MINUTE by focus fire from 6-8 ships......ALL using HE on me. even the BBs!

i was able to shoot back TWICE! constant 4 fires burning!

 

the HE crap kills the fun and skill level of this game. and it becomes worse with every patch

[OttoKretschmer]

is your CurryWurst over cooked ?

 

[aboomination]

yesterday my yamato got BBQed in ONE MINUTE by focus fire from 6-8 ships......ALL using HE on me. even the BBs!

 

Six to eight ships...maybe the number of fires should be limited to 2 - then you could be a punching ball for 2 min. longer.

I say you experienced the equivalent to a CA getting 1-shot in the first 5 min of a game. I have to say tho, that BB at t9/10 don't reign supreme like at mid tiers.

[ParEx]

the HE meta becomes stronger and stonger, killing all fun and skill.....but this applies to all BBs and will lead to even more camping.

 

yesterday my yamato got BBQed in ONE MINUTE by focus fire from 6-8 ships......ALL using HE on me. even the BBs!

i was able to shoot back TWICE! constant 4 fires burning!

 

the HE crap kills the fun and skill level of this game. and it becomes worse with every patch

 

So your point is? Yamato should be able to withstand 6-8 ships (50-75% if the whole enemy team) and kill them? What are you complaining about?

While you can take out any CA with one salvo?

 

BB players, get your facts straight. And stop crying.

What happens right now is the following: all other classes are dying out. CVs : nurfed. Check. IJN DDs: nurfed, check. CA is no longer fun because as soon as you get into firing range you will be focussed by those BBs sitting back because they fear for their painting beeing scratched.

The current waiting line is (condensed down): 1-2 CV / 15-20 BB / 3-5 CA / 3-5 DD and you talk about poor BBs. So why still play them? Oh wait, for the lolZ of killing other ships (that havend been nurfed to oblivion because they killed you in the past).

 

So. You whine about CV, DDs, CAs and now even the other BBs are bad because they are sooooooo bad and fire HE at you when AP doenst do the job.

 

Really?

 

/rant

[Kartoffelmos]

Battleships using HE...

Bow-on meta...

 

Obviously there's something wrong with HE, fires and cruisers!

[Aerroon]

yesterday my yamato got BBQed in ONE MINUTE by focus fire from 6-8 ships......ALL using HE on me. even the BBs!

 

yesterday my zao got instakilled in ONE MINUTE by focus fire from 6-8 ships......ALL using AP on me. even the BBs!

 

(Actually just one BB landed a good salvo and I died.)

[GenerallKrizmuz]

the HE meta becomes stronger and stonger, killing all fun and skill.....but this applies to all BBs and will lead to even more camping.

 

yesterday my yamato got BBQed in ONE MINUTE by focus fire from 6-8 ships......ALL using HE on me. even the BBs!

i was able to shoot back TWICE! constant 4 fires burning!

 

the HE crap kills the fun and skill level of this game. and it becomes worse with every patch

 

poor BBaby

[S4h3L]

 WG nerf fire plox, need more games like this to master dodging 

(funny thing is when there was 5 DDs per side BB mafia called for cap for them)

 

 

 

[aboomination]

Battleships using HE...

Bow-on meta...

 

Obviously there's something wrong with HE, fires and cruisers!

 

I know there's a joke somewhere but I cannot spot it 

[Surmaaja]

 WG nerf fire plox, need more games like this to master dodging 

(funny thing is when there was 5 DDs per side BB mafia called for cap for them)

 

 

 

That class distribution is obviously a result of new German BB line 

[_FTD_]

HE is not a problem if you play properly, saying that it counters german BBs more than others is somewhat true but then again not really.

 

People adapt, so should you.

 

e/ and I don't mean max range sniping but learning the maps and where you can safely go

[Lord_WC]

the HE meta becomes stronger and stonger, killing all fun and skill.....but this applies to all BBs and will lead to even more camping.

 

yesterday my yamato got BBQed in ONE MINUTE by focus fire from 6-8 ships......ALL using HE on me. even the BBs!

i was able to shoot back TWICE! constant 4 fires burning!

 

the HE crap kills the fun and skill level of this game. and it becomes worse with every patch

 

Currently the 'skill' you are talking about in BBs is to turn your nose directly to the biggest enemy BB you can find, go with 1/4 or reverse and shoot with 6 guns. 1 minute lifetime for someone on that skill level is still about twice as much as he should get.

[Fionia_DK]

Slow down guys. 

This topic is not against HE.
 

Its about the tactic change I have to do as german BB. Fight at longer range. I dont think that was WG planned or is it?

 

 

Fionia

[_FTD_]

Slow down guys. 

This topic is not against HE.

 

Its about the tactic change I have to do as german BB. Fight at longer range. I dont think that was WG planned or is it?

 

 

Fionia

It definitely isn't but most of the maps have way to approach the enemy in a safe way without attracting too much fire, learning the spots and how to get to them is key for BBs

[Loran_Battle]

On high tiers, I would advice going slowly. Don't brawl straight in, first assure yourself that you won't get into a situation where too many enemies will be able to fire at you. And make sure you have support.

[ParEx]

Slow down guys. 

This topic is not against HE.

 

Its about the tactic change I have to do as german BB. Fight at longer range. I dont think that was WG planned or is it?

 

 

Fionia

 

Not? Those topics keep on popping up each day.

To sum it up: everything is bad besides manly AP shells from BB to other BB (as long as he doesnt kill you, then your armor was nurfed).

 

BB whining since beta. Same sh**, different day. Sorry. If I had collected all the tears from those BB-captains here in forums I could fill the wholle ocean map.

[Kartoffelmos]

I know there's a joke somewhere but I cannot spot it 

 

Of course not! It's hidden within the incomprehensibly advanced tactic of being immune to most AP shells due to the power of 14,3! On the other hand, HE shells are too ignorant to count past the number of 6, thus they ignore this rule entirely!

 

As such, HE shells must be punished for not respecting the power of 14,3! Any other solution that may (or may not) improve gameplay is unacceptable!

It's all about cause and effect; battleships "spam" HE because of the popular bow-on-backpedaling tactic so in stead of complaining about this particular issue, HE is painted as the culprit. It's even more silly when one consider that battleships take more damage from AP shells than any other source (plunging fire and whatnot included).

[Loran_Battle]

Slow down ParEx, there is no need to attack an honest question. The original topic here was simply to ask for help. NOT a whine about HE. Although I completely share your feelings about the whine from all the BB captains, there is no need to be pissy to people that try to ask nicely. (it is actually a nice change form all the rage topics at anything that might hurt the precious feelings of BB players).

[ParEx]

Slow down ParEx, there is no need to attack an honest question. The original topic here was simply to ask for help. NOT a whine about HE. Although I completely share your feelings about the whine from all the BB captains, there is no need to be pissy to people that try to ask nicely. (it is actually a nice change form all the rage topics at anything that might hurt the precious feelings of BB players).

 

You dont get me right. I dont attack. Just pointing at something that is happening here. Im not mad, dude

Thing is, the game evolves in a direction that is not healthy if you want the game to be up for some time in the future.