REQUEST for Premium Ships (wishlist)

[1MajorKoenig]

Dear all,

 

we know that creating a new ship in WOWS takes Wargaming a Long time, They need to research a lot of Details (dimensions and characteristics but also Details about weapons and armor, incl. internal armor), 3d model, test and finetune the model before it gets into public testing and finally finds the way into the premium shop.

 

It is also clear that WG has a bigger plan of which ships will eventually become a premium ship which is a lot of times a "left-over" from the tree or a ship of Special interest to the customers. However - what would be the communities choice for new premium ships?

 

To make the overview easier to read and comparable please:

 

1. use the following template for your proposals
2. If you like a proposal please hit the "like" so other know that the proposal is a good one

 

Template:

 

• Name / Tier / class / Picture
• Short outline about the original ship / Project you would like to see
• short outline about where the ships fit into the game
• Pros / cons compared to other ships in the game
• Anything that is Special about it as a premium ship (eg. consumables, Special abilities,...)

 

Have fun!

[1MajorKoenig]

 .... and I make a start:

 

SMS KRONPRINZ - T5 BB

The real ship:

SMS KRONPRINZ was the last KÖNIG class Dreadnought and commissioned into the High Seas Fleet in November 1914. She took part in many Major engagements of World War 1 including the Battle of Jutland (where she was part of the leading Division of the main fleet Body) and the Operation Albion in the Baltic. The ship survived the war and was scuttled in Scapa Flow after the war. Kronprinz was built with a tubular foremast that was used for range finding and artillery direction,

 

In WOWS:

Historical WW1 Version of the German T5 battleship which is lacking her historical hull making her the ideal candidate for a premium ship for ship Lovers.

Speed: 23 kn

HP pool: around 42.000

Guns: 5x2 30.5cm SK L/50 - reload 26sec / range 15km (roughly)

 

Pros / Cons:

• good armor and Speed coupled with decent guns for her tier
• mediocre firing range and Speed - - intended to be a decent brawler
• weak AA with only 4 8.8cm vintage AA guns -  AA cover from Team mates needed

 

Special Feature:

• additional module Slot (similar to Ark Beta) as a Llttle goody to make up for bad AA
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[Azalgor]

Deutschland Calss Pocket Battleship should have been added instead of Prince Oigen, she would have made a nice addition to tiers 5-6 as a miniature Sharnhotsth with a cruiser icon. Dont think anything more need saying as she is a famous ship.

[Aaahrg]

Here is one of my favorites:

 

Name: Georgios Averoff, Θ/Κ Γεώργιος Αβέρωφ
Nation/Navy: Greece, Hellenic Navy

Tier: most likely III-V

Type: Armored Cruiser so Cruiser or Battleship in game (depends on how WG make it)

Class: similar Pisa-Class

Big Picture: see Spoiler at the end of the post

Nickname: Lucky Uncle George

Build in 1910

Fate: Museum Ship near Athens

 

 

The (Italian) Pisa-Class Armored Cruiser Georgios Averoff served the Hellenic Navy as the flagship almost the first half of the 20 Century (the timescale the game is set). Often mentoined as a battleship she is in fact an amored cruiser and the last ship of this type in existence. The ship was better armored, armed and faster than its opponends when she was build and fought against the Ottoman-Empire during the first Balkan War in the dawn of WW1.

She became a legend in her homeland because she causes great losses to the enemy forces while being allmost unharmed herself. She survived the Balkan War and both World Wars and got retired in 1952.

Today she is a Museum ship in the Trokadero Marina Museum in Paleo Faliro near the City of Athens (together with a Fletcher-Class Destroyer the Velos former USS Charette)

 

Pros: Heavy Armor and big Guns (up to 9.2 Inch / 234 mm) for a Cruiser, able to fight lower battleships and citadell other cruisers easy.

Cons: Comparatively slow for a cruiser (23 kn), Long reload times, low AA suit. No hydroacustic search or defensive AA skill. No Plane. Will most likely remain the only Greek ship and its useless to Train Captains with her.

Special Feature: Two differend Main battery Gun calibers (if its possible in this game) with differend reload times and specs to fight adaptable against enemys. Maybe a Heal-Party to represent its toughness.

(In this specs it can be a BB as well)

 

Edit: Maybe it can come in two different hulls, either WW1 with good secondarys but low AA or WW2 with refit AA but less secondarys

 

Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_cruiser_Georgios_Averof

 

Picture

 

 

 

 

[Vanhal]

My wishlist for premium:

 

1. Admiral Graf Spee

2. Hood (i would better like it to be in the regular British BB tree as a branch, but we all know WG won't abandon such cash)

3. Impero (as not completed, it could be molded by WG to have some unique characteristics).

[Shirakami_Kon]

IJN Musashi, tier X BB. Special bonus: -50% repair cost. 

 

[Smeggo]

or... Submarine Type XXIII 

[anonym_XGuN6pHmfiJ9]

Name / Tier / class / Picture

I really want and need a Russian Battleship (if they don't want to bring back the other one)

 

And the ship that I want is the Sevastopol  from 1945. I would put her in class 5 or 6 (but I would like 6)

 

 

The version of 1937 is also good for me

 

 

Short outline about where the ships fit into the game

Level 5 or 6 (I would like tier 6)

 

Pros / cons compared to other ships in the game

Pro : It's Russian - Con : What are you talking about? It's Russian

 

Anything that is Special about it as a premium ship (eg. consumables, Special abilities,...)

It's Russian. Maybe it can be OP. 

 

All jokes aside. I really need a Russian battleship. And this the one I want the most.

[MrFingers]

Stuff I would very likely throw money at:

HMS Caroline, Tier III Premium Light Cruiser.

Launched in 1914, she fought at Jutland, and is currently a museum ship in Belfast.

(pictured here is her sistership HMS Cordelia, in the 4x6" outfit)

 

(post-war configuration, as her original layout with mixed 4" & 6" guns can't be coped with by the game engine), still would like to see her in Jutland-drab

4x 6" guns (all mounted on the centerline, 1 front, 1 in the middle, 2 (the original 6" guns) at the back)

2x 3" guns (secondary/anti air)

4x 21" torpedo's (twin mounts, one at each side, wide arcs)

3" belt armour, 1" deck armour

28.5 kts

 

pro

• fast and nimble, with a narrow profile making her hard to hit
• decent camorating and decent torpedo's with excellent arcs and good reload (narrow window of stealth-firing)
• HE-spamming scrub with high firechance and high ROF

con

• no armour to speak of, everything will pen and do damage
• 4 6" guns is not much, so it won't be a firehose. Hard to hit targets directly up front (1 gun) or at the back (2 guns).
• narrow and small ship makes for an unstable vessel, so maybe not pinpoint accurate.

 

[thestaggy]

My first preference is as obvious as things can get.

 

 

Name - HMS Hood

Tier - 7/8 (Not 100% certain on balance)

Class - Battleship

Her story - When built she was one of the largest and, ostensibly, the most powerful warships in the world, Hood was the pride of the Royal Navy and, carrying immense prestige, was known as ‘The Mighty Hood’. She was lost in a cataclysmic explosion while engaging the Bismarck and her consort Prinz Eugen during the Battle of Denmark Strait.

 

How will she fit in WoWs -

As sunk, pre-1941 rebuild 

4 x 2 381 mm guns

7 x 2 102 mm dual-purpose guns firing HE

3 x 8 40 mm guns

5 x 4 12.7 mm guns

28 knots

13.2 sec rudder traverse

850 m turning circle

 

​Pros -

- Good speed; at tier 7 only the Scharnhorst and her sister would be faster, at tier 8 she would be no less slower than her more modern adversaries.

- Best rudder shift among all battleships in her tier 

- Faster reload and turret traverse in comparison to her more heavily armed and armoured adversaries (Colorado, Nagato, Bismarck/Tirpitz, North Carolina and Amagi) with only the Scharnhorst/Gneisenau being faster.

- Accurate guns

- Excellent range

 

Cons -

- Largest turning circle of all battleships in her tier

- She will share the same guns as the Warspite, so she will struggle with same tier and higher adversaries

- Vulnerable to plunging fire (I felt awkward typing this)

- Weak secondary battery; this won't be much of a brawler

- Weak AA capability, heavily weighted to mid-range

- Overall susceptible to air attacks due to large turning circle and sub-par AA suite

 

Special abilities -

She will share the Warspite's faster cooldowns on repair and damage control. She can have access to the Defensive Fire consumable as well due to her weak base AA and large turning circle.

[praetor_jax]

or... Submarine Type XXIII 

 

This one please.

[Aotearas]

South Dakota, tier VIII US BB

 

 

A battleship designed to be an improvement over the North Carolina class, particularily to cut down on size whilst maintaining the same speed and providing enough space to function as a fleet flagship.

 

Compared with the North Carolina:

 

-Smaller, so going to have slighter better concealment, but also a bit less health

-Less secondaries (8x2 compared to NC's 10x2)

-Different AA suite focus (less DP AA dps, but slightly more AA dps in the mid- and significantly more dps in shortrange due to having more 40mm Bofors (68 vs 60) and 20mm Oerlikons ( 77 vs 44)

-Slightly tighter turning circle radius (due to more compact size compared with the North Carolina)

 

 

 

Design B-65, tier VII IJN BB

 

 

A japanese design for a supercruiser/battlecruiser

 

This ship would be another out-of-the-box ship not unlike the Dunkerque and Sharnhorst. Very fast at 33 knots topspeed, but lightly armoured compared to other BBs (only 190mm belt armour) and below average calibre (310mm) compared to other full fledged BBs. However ... torpedoes (two quadruple launchers, one per side (mounted amidships slightly towards the rear, just before the aft turret))!

 

A rough outline of the likely characteristics:

-33 knots topspeed

-3x3 310mm (with a likely rate of fire of around 2.5 rpm, so balance sake lets guesstimate a 25/26 second reload time, slightly less range compared to the Nagato)

-2x4 610mm torpedo launchers (Type 93 torps)

-Subpar AA (8x2 100mm DP and some 25mm)

-Weak armour

 

 

Based on size and tonnage, probably equal to the Nagato in healthpoints, but since it's not much different in size and has considerably less armourplating she'd be considerably squishier if you ever give the enemy a good shot at her juicy sides, definately not meant to go brawling, although the torpedoes would work great as last ditch efforts or as a nasty surprise to anyone who wants to force a close range fight.

 

[Shirakami_Kon]

South Dakota, tier VIII US BB

 

 

A battleship designed to be an improvement over the North Carolina class, particularily to cut down on size whilst maintaining the same speed and providing enough space to function as a fleet flagship.

 

Compared with the North Carolina:

 

-Smaller, so going to have slighter better concealment, but also a bit less health

-Less secondaries (8x2 compared to NC's 10x2)

-Different AA suite focus (less DP AA dps, but slightly more AA dps in the mid- and significantly more dps in shortrange due to having more 40mm Bofors (68 vs 60) and 20mm Oerlikons ( 77 vs 44)

-Slightly tighter turning circle radius (due to more compact size compared with the North Carolina)

 

 

 

Design B-65, tier VII IJN BB

 

 

A japanese design for a supercruiser/battlecruiser

 

This ship would be another out-of-the-box ship not unlike the Dunkerque and Sharnhorst. Very fast at 33 knots topspeed, but lightly armoured compared to other BBs (only 190mm belt armour) and below average calibre (310mm) compared to other full fledged BBs. However ... torpedoes (two quadruple launchers, one per side (mounted amidships slightly towards the rear, just before the aft turret))!

 

A rough outline of the likely characteristics:

-33 knots topspeed

-3x3 310mm (with a likely rate of fire of around 2.5 rpm, so balance sake lets guesstimate a 25/26 second reload time, slightly less range compared to the Nagato)

-2x4 610mm torpedo launchers (Type 93 torps)

-Subpar AA (8x2 100mm DP and some 25mm)

-Weak armour

 

 

Based on size and tonnage, probably equal to the Nagato in healthpoints, but since it's not much different in size and has considerably less armourplating she'd be considerably squishier if you ever give the enemy a good shot at her juicy sides, definately not meant to go brawling, although the torpedoes would work great as last ditch efforts or as a nasty surprise to anyone who wants to force a close range fight.

 

 

Both of them look really interesting. I'd like that too.

[anonym_ZxkC3EBNBO8l]

Admiral Graf Spee , tier VI premium haevy cruiser .

Alongside Bismarck considered  by many  as most famous German ww2 warship.

This becames arguably most interesting ship ever to be deployed in World of Warships because of her uniqueness of "Pocket battleship" traits .

Slower than other cruisers, weak armor,  but  haevy armed with main guns of  Sharnorst battleship , 283 mm ( 11 ") , though Sharnhorst had 3 turrets  Graf Spee had  2 .

A relatively slow for cruiser (28.5 kts) , with weak  armor,  suitable for long range (~ 17.5 km) haevy duels with its main gun batteries.

AND

....Since Germans themselves classiffy her as heavy cruiser , its settled it is an exotic cruiser type, not a battleship.

But one could and in some circumstances will play it as a small  battleship !!!!!!

Players will grab it!!!

[ZoidFile]

IJN Yamashiro, Fuso Class, Tier 6 

 

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Compared to Fuso she has a different turret layout. The "C" turret is reversed. Which would change her play style a bit.

I imagine her having worse gun arcs on "C" turret, less AA and worse concealment than Fuso.

 

 

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

 

ADMIRAL GRAF SPEE    (I sense a trend here!)

 

The real ship:

Admiral Graf Spee was one of three "Deutschland" class Heavy Cruisers (called "Pocket Battleships" by the British) and one of the most iconic warships of World War 2. She took part in the famous "Battle of the River Plate" in December 1939 (later dramatised in a motion picture). Her Captain, Hans Langsdorff, won the respect of his countries enemies by his humane treatment of capture ships crews and by his suicide after the scuttling of his ship to demonstrate that his actions were not caused by cowardice on his part.

Before her luck ran out, this feared ship had eluded eight allied hunting groups during a cruise in the South Atlantic in which she sank 9 merchant ships.

 

In WOWS:

The final form of Graf Spee as she took part in the "Battle of the River Plate".

Speed: 28.5 kn

HP pool: around 25,000

Guns: 2x3 28cm - reload 20sec / range 17km (approx)

Secondarys = 8 x 1 150mm

Torpedoes = 8 x 533mm

AA = 8 x 20mm at time of battle.

 

Pros / Cons:

    At Tier 6, Fast enough to outrun anything that can kill her; Powerful guns to sink anything that can.

    Good accurracy of main battery

    Only cruiser armour, but slightly better than Nürnberg

    weak AA

 

Special Feature:

    Arado floatplane replaced by fighter for better AA. Low cooldown?

    Good concealment to reflect ships famous skills in disguising the ship

    

 

[anonym_ZxkC3EBNBO8l]

ADMIRAL GRAF SPEE    (I sense a trend here!)

 

The real ship:

Admiral Graf Spee was one of three "Deutschland" class Heavy Cruisers (called "Pocket Battleships" by the British) and one of the most iconic warships of World War 2. She took part in the famous "Battle of the River Plate" in December 1939 (later dramatised in a motion picture). Her Captain, Hans Langsdorff, won the respect of his countries enemies by his humane treatment of capture ships crews and by his suicide after the scuttling of his ship to demonstrate that his actions were not caused by cowardice on his part.
Before her luck ran out, this feared ship had eluded eight allied hunting groups during a cruise in the South Atlantic in which she sank 9 merchant ships.

 

In WOWS:

The final form of Graf Spee as she took part in the "Battle of the River Plate".

Speed: 28.5 kn

HP pool: around 25,000

Guns: 2x3 28cm - reload 20sec / range 17km (approx)
Secondarys = 8 x 1 150mm
Torpedoes = 8 x 533mm
AA = 8 x 20mm at time of battle.

 

Pros / Cons:

    At Tier 6, Fast enough to outrun anything that can kill her; Powerful guns to sink anything that can.
    Good accurracy of main battery
    Only cruiser armour, but slightly better than Nürnberg
    weak AA

 

Special Feature:

    Arado floatplane replaced by fighter for better AA. Low cooldown?
    Good concealment to reflect ships famous skills in disguising the ship
 

 

Just a little OP for tier VI ( because its cruiser), thats why I think  its more balancing for the game to be tier VII (afteral Prinz Eugen is VIII) with gun range slightly smaller than Sharnhorst (20 km reduced to 18 km). I mean for balance, not that I would not like to outrun anyone stronger and to outgun anyone faster, it will be excellent, but than  all people will drive Graf Spee's....Everything alse = YES give me one!

[Gojuadorai]

IJN Yamashiro, Fuso Class, Tier 6 

I imagine her having worse gun arcs on "C" turret, less AA and worse concealment than Fuso.

 

sry for the offtopic but that one gave me a laugh 

[Astral_Eclipse]

 

Just a little OP for tier VI ( because its cruiser), thats why I think  its more balancing for the game to be tier VII (afteral Prinz Eugen is VIII) with gun range slightly smaller than Sharnhorst (19.9 km reduced to 18.9 km). I mean for balance, not that I would not like to outrun anyone stronger and to outgun anyone faster, it will be excellent, but than  all people will drive Graf Spee's....Everything alse = YES give me one!

 

The Deutchland class ships are wierd for WoWS, they have higher then average caliber guns making them super heavy cruisers, but also a small number of said guns (2x3 280 mm), but speed wise they are slow for cruisers, armor wise they are lighlty armored compared to some other cruisers (80 mm of belt armor). Making them potentially too strong for T5 but too weak for T7. So T6 would be the best option for them, if you ask me.

 

[it3llig3nc3]

This is very nice thread! Great ideas so far.

Unfortunately I'm not fully prepared to provide specs for my proposal, but being Hungarian the following ship would obviously be a no-questions-asked purchase (if reasonably priced of course)

 

SMS Szent Istvan (SMS Saint Stephen) Tegetthoff-class battleship. (https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Szent_Istv%C3%A1n)

 

The story is interesting as according to Wikipedia the Tegetthoff class (sometimes erroneously named the Viribus Unitis class) was the sole class of dreadnought battleship built for the Austro-Hungarian Navy. Four ships were built, Viribus Unitis, Tegetthoff, Prinz Eugen and Szent István.

And here comes the interesting connection with the currently in-game Prinz Eugen as German cruiser Prinz Eugen, a heavy cruiser named in honor of the earlier Austro-Hungarian vessels.

 

MORE HERE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegetthoff-class_battleship

 

It would be probably a Tier V BB based on it's dimensions and gun size.

 

By the way it is also a unique thing that the final moments of her sinking got recorded on film:

 

 

[Warlock_hero_defender]

I want the Roma. Tier 7/8, just cause she is very beautiful. :-), i offcourse also want the graf Spee and Hood 

 

[iJoby]

The HMS Ark Royal 1938

Tier  Vl or Vll Premium Aircraft Carrier (CV)

 

Stats:- Displacement 22, 000 tons, Speed 30.75 knots, Compliment 1575. Armament sixteen 4.5 inch AA guns in pairs. Forty-eight 2 pounder AA guns (in eights) thirty-two .5 inch Machine guns. Dimension 685 (pp) 800 (oa) x 94.75 feet x 27.75 feet (deep load)

 

Aircraft carried:    
72 (designed)
50–60 (actual)
1939–40: 26 × Fairey Swordfish, 24 × Blackburn Skuas
1940–41: 30 × Fairey Swordfish, 12 × Blackburn Skuas, 12 × Fairey Fulmars
1941: 36 × Fairey Swordfish, 18 × Fairey Fulmars
Aviation facilities:    2 × catapults

 

Famous for:- Her bomber Planes Fairey Swordfish , which disabled Bismarck's steering gear, jamming her rudders in a turning position and preventing her escape and later to the Bismark's destruction.

 

I'm sure this ship would attract a lot of collectors in the game.

[KHETTIFER]

I want the Roma. Tier 7/8, just cause she is very beautiful. :-), i offcourse also want the graf Spee and Hood 

 

+1 she's a particularly good looking ship, i've seen pictures with red and white chevrons painted on her deck and on other areas which make her look very striking, i would very much like to see a camo like that.

[anonym_ZxkC3EBNBO8l]

 

The Deutchland class ships are wierd for WoWS, they have higher then average caliber guns making them super heavy cruisers, but also a small number of said guns (2x3 280 mm), but speed wise they are slow for cruisers, armor wise they are lighlty armored compared to some other cruisers (80 mm of belt armor). Making them potentially too strong for T5 but too weak for T7. So T6 would be the best option for them, if you ask me.

 

 

 

 

After rethinking,  you could be right.

Tier VI cruiser, with 17 km distance guns, could pass. I downgraded "my  Spee" from tier VII to tier VI

 

 

 

 

 

[StringWitch]

USS Nebraska / II / Battleship

 

Edition: Post-1910 refit with c.1918 dazzle camo. Link

Role: US counterpart to Mikasa.

 

Pros

- Biggest secondaries in game at 8", with many other guns of 6" and 3" calibres.

- Competitive speed for her time & type at 19kts; faster than South Carolina & Mikasa.

- Small turning circle owing to size and shape of pre-dreadnoughts.

 

Cons

- 2×2 12" main battery.

- Conventional armour layout, unlike later US battleships (at least I assume so; haven't been able to find any drawings); vulnerable to return fire from dreadnoughts.

- Turrets atop turrets possibly preventing the upper ones operating if the lower ones are knocked out.

 

Specials

- Perhaps the 8" guns could be the player-controlled battery with the 12" guns working as secondaries. If not, Main Battery Mod. 0 would suit her and Mikasa.