Royal Navy Cruiser line

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

Q: With each release, the ships become more the same. A kind of undistinguishable grey mass. Will you make ships of different nations sufficiently distinct, perhaps by adding nation-specific consumables? What are you ideas on personalizing ships?

A: We do not share you impression of a "grey mass". For example, the qualities of German battleships make them excellent brawlers. The forthcoming RN cruisers will not be bland either. Many existing ships have distinguishable national traits, and we plan to continue this tradition. Concerning consumables, we want to improve the general variability for all nations rather than giving nation-spefic options, although such options already exist and cannot be completely excluded in the future. The US battleships have a unique upgrade, as do the IJN Iwaki and Yubari. The high tier German battleships have Hydroacoustic Search. The RN cruisers will not have Defensive AA fire.

 

How curious - the form of words.

- The US Battleships HAVE something that their peers do not

- The IJN Iwaki and Yubari HAVE something that their peers do not

- The high tier German battleships HAVE something that their peers do not

but for RN cruisers....

They DO NOT HAVE something that their peers DO HAVE.

 

So potentially, RN cruisers could NOT HAVE three things

1) Defensive AA

2) HE ammo

3) A friggin chance

[Lord_Fisher]

I'd just like to 'second' or perhaps 'Nth' the OP's comments. I feel the current RN cruiser line up as disclosed is not merely a missed opportunity, but positively an unfunny joke, one of those things where I can't believe they have got it so badly wrong. The principal CAs of the RN in WW2 were the County class and yet they have been totally and utterly airbrushed from history. Even if one appears as a premium, it doesn't go anywhere near far enough to representing the RN properly. It is essential these ships are included in the main cruiser line. 

 

Moreover, I find the excuses offered in various other comments for their omission unconvincing. "Oh it's a CL line". Well yes it does appear to be, but actually it's described as the cruiser line, with no distinction made. And indeed this is reflected by the cruiser lines of other navies, which include their equivalent heavy cruisers. Judging from those, I expected without any doubt for the County class to fit in at Tier VIII perfectly. 8 x 8in guns, the equivalent of the Hipper class etc. But this was obviously too much hard work for WG, who have just basically used the same ship to cover 3 or 4 tiers all mounting 4 triple turrets. Easy for them, but unrepresentative of the RN's actual cruiser line over the period in question, and perhaps more concerningly perhaps for them, pretty dull for people to play with. In fact it looks so monotonous and will entail such farcical warping of stats to make a string of CLs competitive with the string of CAs in other navies' latter cruiser tiers that I have no intention of playing it now, even though I have been waiting so long to get RN ships.

Nor does this bode well for whatever they're dreaming up for the RN BB line...

[anonym_MfZ6T7iwWpUC]

I'd just like to 'second' or perhaps 'Nth' the OP's comments. I feel the current RN cruiser line up as disclosed is not merely a missed opportunity, but positively an unfunny joke, one of those things where I can't believe they have got it so badly wrong. The principal CAs of the RN in WW2 were the County class and yet they have been totally and utterly airbrushed from history. Even if one appears as a premium, it doesn't go anywhere near far enough to representing the RN properly. It is essential these ships are included in the main cruiser line. 

 

 

Maybe you should go back and read more history books for WW2. The RN's principle cruisers for WW2 were CL's, and not CA's. Plus, how do you know its a missed opportunity, as you haven't played them yet?

[mr3awsome]

Lord_Fisher, on 16 October 2016 - 03:19 PM, said:

"Oh it's a CL line". Well yes it does appear to be, but actually it's described as the cruiser line, with no distinction made. 

Thats because there has been no cause to. No other nation can field a complete CL line. 

By the same extension its widely believed that in the future the RN will have a line of battle-cruisers, but those will have the same marker as battleships in game. 

Thus your point is irrelevant. 

 

Judging from those, I expected without any doubt for the County class to fit in at Tier VIII perfectly. 8 x 8in guns, the equivalent of the Hipper class etc. 

Wrong again. 

The Kents, Londons and Norfolks are all tier VII material. Their direct equivalents, the Myoukous and Pensacolas are both there, so its the most sensible course. 

 

But this was obviously too much hard work for WG, who have just basically used the same ship to cover 3 or 4 tiers all mounting 4 triple turrets.

There are distinct differences between Fiji, Belfast and Neptune. 

These range from the protection scheme to the secondary battery to the electrical power supply. 

Saying otherwise betrays your ignorance of these designs. 

 

 Easy for them, but unrepresentative of the RN's actual cruiser line over the period in question, and perhaps more concerningly perhaps for them, pretty dull for people to play with. 

 

On the contrary, its very representative of the period in question, from the 1910s to the classes of WWI, then the classes of the 30s and the classes of WWII. 

Heavy cruisers cover a much smaller area. 

 

Nor does this bode well for whatever they're dreaming up for the RN BB line...

On the contrary. It shows that they are implementing lines whole with a minimum of splitting up in face of later expansion like some of the older lines will face. 

So what if they have the battle-cruisers first, so no QE, Nelson or KGV? They will come sooner or later, and have something more diverse should help variety. 

 

[Historynerd]

Giussano

 

Fixed that for you. 

[Trainspite]

 

Fixed that for you. 

 

I blame my keyboard.  I definitely typed it in correctly...

[Historynerd]

I blame my keyboard.  I definitely typed it in correctly...