Stop the Germans ! biased

[Armen_13]

They have AA, armor, reload, penetration, HE, their ships are superior and make all other BB lines obsolete. Why go Amagi when there is Bismarck. Why go Kawachi when you have Nassau which is equal to 2 Kawachis. Why go New Mexico when you have everything with Bayern ? 

 

Superior German Engineering ?

Master R. ?

[aboomination]

lol

[principat121]

[Webley_Mark]

Yeah.... We know, German BBs are OP.

[Fionia_DK]

 

The german BBs have weakness. Now we have armor-viewer, study the german ships and find out how U will deal with them.

BTW, U forgot to mention, that german guns have big dispention.

 

Good luck.

 

[MrFingers]

They had

running through the ships intercom (and in the ether when there wasn't radiosilence enforced), which made the crew work harder, and thus the ship perform better. It's all historical!

[Webley_Mark]

They had

running through the ships intercom (and in the ether when there wasn't radiosilence enforced), which made the crew work harder, and thus the ship perform better. It's all historical!

 

Best. Reply. Ever.

[D7v]

[Mucker]

I remember prior to the release of the German BBs people all over the place were in panic that WG will screw over the Germans gig time. Like for real.

I guess it was a bit premature.  

[Fiery_Kathy]

big

 

Dispersion is a stat that doesnt matter.

[D7v]

 

The german BBs have weakness. Now we have armor-viewer, study the german ships and find out how U will deal with them.

BTW, U forgot to mention, that german guns have big dispention.

 

Good luck.

 

 

Please elaborate checking the armors German ships mostly have the best armor designs tier by tier also the value of dispersion is max and probably on dispersion there are other factors we dont even know of.

[Tyrendian89]

They had

running through the ships intercom (and in the ether when there wasn't radiosilence enforced), which made the crew work harder, and thus the ship perform better. It's all historical!

 

to be honest, I was expecting to see the bit from Das Boot where the entire crew, minus the political enforcer guy, happily sings "It's a long way to Tipperary!"... Now I'm not sure whether I should be disappointed or amused. Probably both...

[MrFingers]

 

to be honest, I was expecting to see the bit from Das Boot where the entire crew, minus the political enforcer guy, happily sings "It's a long way to Tipperary!"...

 

The discussion of subs is strictly forbidden in this game & forums... It's almost as bad as asking for the inclusion of the Imperial Germany Navy ensign...

[Comrad_StaIin]

while the germans are pretty strong (and fun at that point) but certainly not OP in any way

[Admiral_noodle]

They have AA, armor, reload, penetration, HE, their ships are superior and make all other BB lines obsolete. Why go Amagi when there is Bismarck. Why go Kawachi when you have Nassau which is equal to 2 Kawachis. Why go New Mexico when you have everything with Bayern ? 

 

Superior German Engineering ?

Master R. ?

 

New Mexico is better than Bayern. 12 guns vs 8. More versatile 14" rather than overpenning 15" guns. Yes Bayern is good. But I find New Mexico better. In fact I find the German BBs a bit "all round good" and not brilliant at anything. Would rather have the strengths of the others and have to manage their weaknesses. 

 

Except Bismarck of course

[Sub_Eleven]

Germans have sucky torpedo belts. I do agree that the Montana seems a bit underwhelming compared to the Currywurst though.

[Comrad_StaIin]

Germans have sucky torpedo belts. I do agree that the Montana seems a bit underwhelming compared to the Currywurst though.

 

why do you compare a Tier 9 BB to a Tier 10 BB doesnt make any sense ? 

[D7v]

 

New Mexico is better than Bayern. 12 guns vs 8. More versatile 14" rather than overpenning 15" guns. Yes Bayern is good. But I find New Mexico better. In fact I find the German BBs a bit "all round good" and not brilliant at anything. Would rather have the strengths of the others and have to manage their weaknesses. 

 

Except Bismarck of course

Agree with this also I think the game creators made some significant historical ships best in their tiers. Bismarck, Fletcher, Iowa etc.

[Spellfire40]

 

Please elaborate checking the armors German ships mostly have the best armor designs tier by tier also the value of dispersion is max and probably on dispersion there are other factors we dont even know of.

 

​Well i have Little Problems dealing with them Nasau is a bit out of wak but if you remove totally bad ships like Myogi im pretty even with them up to T6 at least (more 5 since i just unlooked Bayern) anyway i dont fear equal ships in my Fuso anyway ,-)) Havent tryed NM but Arizona worked too but rather bad sample size. But then my stats arent exactly average at mid Level in most ships. Might just be they have a lower skill ceiling but then Tirpitz was allways considered to be the most newbee friendly of the prem BBs so thats not that surprising,

[Sub_Eleven]

 

why do you compare a Tier 9 BB to a Tier 10 BB doesnt make any sense ? 

 

Currywurst, Fred, it's all the same to me

 

But yeah mixed up the names as I don't play battleboats. Good catch though!

[T0byJug]

They had

running through the ships intercom (and in the ether when there wasn't radiosilence enforced), which made the crew work harder, and thus the ship perform better. It's all historical!

 

But you forgot  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdKVX45wYeQ Much better

[Vaderan]

Considering the german BBs, i´d say they appear to be a little bit like the "jack of all trades". They are capable of doing a little bit of everything, but don´t excell. And wherever WG wants the player to consider a german BB "strong", the ship receives a major drawback.

 

The concept of german BBs wants to place them as brawlers. Lower calibre guns with faster reload and an improved secondary armament. Sounds good, so far. However, in reality, the german shotguns aren´t capable of hitting a barn from the inside, if RNG screws you (which happens all too often), and secondary armament... yeah. Starting with the Bismarck, it seems usefull with a fully skilled 15 points captain and secondary modules/upgrades. The, however, when you feel confident to bring your german BB to a brawl, you find out that your torpedo protection performs even worse than the stats might show.

 

I had real fun games with them, but absolute rage moments aswell. If your shotguns let you down, any DD or Cruiser with torpedoes can end you quickly, which makes brawling in these intended brawlers a high stakes risk with rather poor benefits and improvements, if taking those risks.

 

In my opinion, the brawler concept for this class wasn´t achieved consequently and completly, leaving it with the impression of being a mixed bag. I ´d rather have gone with horrible sniping/long range capabilities but real strongpoints in brawls, than this a little bit of everything thingy...

[Vincinzerei]

Last night i accidently stopped in my gremy about 10km from a Bayern AND about 9 from a König, both shot at me..

None of theyr shells hit me...

so yes.. they are really Dangerous.. IF they actually hit..

 

[txtspeak]

when you think about it, german BBs from tier 7 upward werent really designed to go toe-to-toe with capital ships. the main objective was saying "I've got a big ship and it can big gun" hence the currywursts incredible size.

maybe the gneisenau doesnt follow this philosophy. but it was designed for the same reason the others were, commerce raiding. not so much for bigger battles.

what exactly this all means I'm not sure, but you can decide that for yourself

[Capra76]

when you think about it, german BBs from tier 7 upward werent really designed to go toe-to-toe with capital ships. the main objective was saying "I've got a big ship and it can big gun" hence the currywursts incredible size.

maybe the gneisenau doesnt follow this philosophy. but it was designed for the same reason the others were, commerce raiding. not so much for bigger battles.

 

 

I think the German BB's were designed to counter the French ships in a limited war against France rather than fight a global war against the RN.  The Scharnhorst class was reasonably comparable to the 2 Dunkerque class ships, the Bismark class was comparable to the Richelieu and everything after that was pure fantasy anyway.