Over powered

[Sgt_Hakeswell]

Is it just me or does anyone else thank that after the last update cruisers have become overpowered.  The amount of damage they are doing seems to have increased massively as well as now starting fires ridiculously easily.  Before the update I found that facing a cruiser in a BB was at risk of fire as well as taking damage, but it wasn't all one way.  Now it seems that the damage is all one way in favour of the cruisers - any one else noticed this?

[Myrmix]

I think due to the armor update, it's harder to delete cruisers with battleships and the overpen/penetration-ratio increased a lot. With the Gneisenau I look at 3:1 for overpen:pen and i'm very sure that didn't happened with the japanese line when I grindet them (maybe the caliber-size is the difference here, but I still recognize more rng with hits and penetrations, not only with BB)

On the one hand it's good for cruisers to take 2-3 salvos more, on the other hand, if rng hates you you will have a hard time not spamming HE.

[ColonelPete]

Is it just me or does anyone else thank that after the last update cruisers have become overpowered.  The amount of damage they are doing seems to have increased massively as well as now starting fires ridiculously easily.  Before the update I found that facing a cruiser in a BB was at risk of fire as well as taking damage, but it wasn't all one way.  Now it seems that the damage is all one way in favour of the cruisers - any one else noticed this?

 

Yοu were saying?

 

Player Average for Ships [ at 2016/08/20 ]
Nation	Class	Tier	Name	Win	Damage	Kills/Battle	Survival
US	DD	6	Farragut	49.93	18.629	0.56	21.69
JP	DD	6	Mutsuki	48.36	19.336	0.51	28.27
SN	DD	6	Ognevoi	49.56	19.982	0.59	23.94
KM	CA	6	Nurnberg	48.70	21.905	0.52	24.22
US	CA	6	Cleveland	50.30	23.737	0.58	27.52
JP	CA	6	Aoba	49.28	23.900	0.55	26.71
US	CV	6	Independence	47.51	26.268	0.47	65.95
PA	DD	6	Anshan	54.16	29.431	0.87	37.99
SN	CA	6	Budyonny	50.93	30.194	0.71	27.34
SN	CA	6	Molotov	52.16	35.285	0.78	28.63
US	BB	6	New Mexico	48.87	36.989	0.72	43.51
JP	CV	6	Ryujo	51.57	38.946	0.75	68.15
JP	BB	6	Fuso	49.57	42.275	0.79	45.60
RN	BB	6	Warspite	50.69	44.308	0.84	39.72
US	BB	6	Arizona	54.37	49.990	1.00	49.58
KM	BB	6	Bayern	51.69	52.218	0.97	42.05

[TeaCupYuri]

Probably just you.

[Crusherheads]

Is it just me or does anyone else thank that after the last update cruisers have become overpowered.  The amount of damage they are doing seems to have increased massively as well as now starting fires ridiculously easily.  Before the update I found that facing a cruiser in a BB was at risk of fire as well as taking damage, but it wasn't all one way.  Now it seems that the damage is all one way in favour of the cruisers - any one else noticed this?

 

LoL, well dunno if they where buffed or not, BUT, they SURE need some love honestly. Cruiser class for me like i mention, their armor should "act" was tiers 10 cruiser armor for their own tiers. Seriously, they should, for example Atago for me and "maybe" Kutuzov are the more or less balance cruisers at their tiers, not for their armor well abit of it, but also for their Maneuverability and other options of gameplay they have, aka for me they have the BEST performance compared to other cruisers. 

[xXx_Blogis_xXx]

no they not , prob just u

[Loran_Battle]

Literally me when reading this thread:

 

Sure cruiser HE can be annoying. But its nothing like BBs oneshotting a cruiser for example...

[aboomination]

Did you sail alone into three Atlantas?

[ShinGetsu]

I just love how this forum overreact every time someone is saying something against the cruisers.

 

 

Just some battle ago I saw an Hindenburg going in a retarded broadside rush against two Tirpitz, one Bismarck, one Zao and one NO... he survived waaaay too long, because overpenetration and stupid no-damage pens... 

 

But yeah, everything is fine I guess. It's absolutely fine to see someone going full retard and still manage to survive long enough to do some massive damage. Try doing that in any BB and you'll get deleted by citadel hits. But Hindenburg is fine, even broadside it eats at most 6000 per AP salvo from 380mm.

Mind you, I'm not complaining about the BBs. I just got Yamato and I love it, and lately I'm mostly playing Dunkerque and Scharnhorst, but I find it abnormal to see someone not being punished by a mistake that would be fatal when playing any other ship.

 

[shamelesscreature]

Turtleback armour. Hindenburg haz it. German BBs too...

[ShinGetsu]

Yeah, but given the surface of the ship, german BB are more heavily punished by it. Doing 15k/20k salvoes on the armor of the Bismarck/Tirpitz is easier.

Seriously It's just infuriating to see german CAs playing like complete idiots and having some results while I'm trying to play my Roon smartly... sometimes I wonder if I should play like a good retard instead. 

[22cm]

Dude, you re crazy. I was oneshotted today from full health in a tier 9 Roon by a BB, while trying to dodge another BB.

[Sub_Eleven]

Is it just me or does anyone else thank that after the last update cruisers have become overpowered.  The amount of damage they are doing seems to have increased massively as well as now starting fires ridiculously easily.  Before the update I found that facing a cruiser in a BB was at risk of fire as well as taking damage, but it wasn't all one way.  Now it seems that the damage is all one way in favour of the cruisers - any one else noticed this?

 

Whahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

^{(seriously, I meant lolwut?!)}

[ShinGetsu]

Dude, you re crazy. I was oneshotted today from full health in a tier 9 Roon by a BB, while trying to dodge another BB.

 

Lol, crazy you say...

 

Dude, I know how to aim. It's just that sometimes RNG decides for you that this cruiser broadside at 8km will get overpenned over and over.

 

I will not say CA are overpowered because they're clearly not. But most of them are also a lot easier to play than BBs. I'm tired of "proud Procruiser player" dismissing every complaints from BB captain as BS or whine because "muh cruiser is difficult !". Yeah, nope. 

 

Since the last update I see more and more cruisers surviving a situation where they should be deleted in one salvo.

[Bellegar]

Literally me when reading this thread:

 

Sure cruiser HE can be annoying. But its nothing like BBs oneshotting a cruiser for example...

 

Out of likes, but you Sir, made my day

 

And it was the exact same reaction I had ;)

[Elenortirion]

 

Lol, crazy you say...

 

Dude, I know how to aim. It's just that sometimes RNG decides for you that this cruiser broadside at 8km will get overpenned over and over.

 

I will not say CA are overpowered because they're clearly not. But most of them are also a lot easier to play than BBs. I'm tired of "proud Procruiser player" dismissing every complaints from BB captain as BS or whine because "muh cruiser is difficult !". Yeah, nope. 

 

Since the last update I see more and more cruisers surviving a situation where they should be deleted in one salvo.

 

welp after watching few of new ichase vids from captain academy series I'm not really so sure if cruiser going broadside in close proximity to a BB should be considered "tacticall error"...

[AgarwaenME]

 But most of them are also a lot easier to play than BBs

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

Ye right. Sure, it's "harder" to play a class with massive passive defenses, vs a class with far less passive defenses who needs to actively pay attention to not only going broadside to BBs, but also other CAs. And should we compare how BBs damage dealing is far less skill dependant too?

 

It's also hilariously hypocritical to say you're tired of CA players defending the class, when in fact the only thing you should get tired of is endless "torp op omg" "HE omg op!" "omg fire op!!" threads.

[AgarwaenME]

Is it just me or does anyone else thank that after the last update cruisers have become overpowered.  The amount of damage they are doing seems to have increased massively as well as now starting fires ridiculously easily.  Before the update I found that facing a cruiser in a BB was at risk of fire as well as taking damage, but it wasn't all one way.  Now it seems that the damage is all one way in favour of the cruisers - any one else noticed this?

 

You yourself is doing 50-100% more damage in BBs as the same tier CA/CLs.

 

Are you trolling or do you suffer from dyscalculia?

[periscope_up]

So now the CAs are also overpowered for cryBBabies, since CVs and DDs got nerfed already to the ground.. Great.

[Sgt_Hakeswell]

Far from being CA hater I am just asking a question about something I imho observed - if you think that makes me a CA hater then I wish you well in your own little world.

 

[iJoby]

You may be right, I took the Cleveland out for a spin today, I haven't played it for weeks, my first game 19 fires, it seemed that every salvo started a fire.

[albinbino]

As dedicated Mogami player I can say nothing changed, Mogami is still being citadeled by every shell by any BB from any distance or angle. But somehow i never give up from it.

[AmazingBeaver]

There are indeed increased amount of RNG regarding the cruiser armor, you still 1-2 shot them occasionally but there are situations where CA/CL players makes a huge mistake, showing full broadside at medium to close range and 3 battleships just overpens him doing insignificant damage. It's good that cruisers have atleast some survivabiltiy, but I don't like the RNG and luckfactor ( the game deciding if I overpen or pen the armor)

[aboomination]

showing full broadside at [...] close range

 

Which can be the best thing to do regarding overpens - (still I wouldn't do this myself which I should reconsider)

My Gneisenau got raped defeated in an embarrassing manner by three t6 cruisers at around 4 km recently and all I could get was overpens because they weren't angling at all (deliberately or not they did the right thing - either my shells were too fast or they couldn't arm bc of armor "thickness"). Shouldn't have gotten that close, apparently. Scharnhorst would have had a field day.

As a player base we still have so much to learn!

 

(Still) on topic - those anniversary flags make me think of a specialized Atlanta cpt. with 19 skill points

 

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[TekumzeWolf]

Is it just me or does anyone else thank that after the last update cruisers have become overpowered.  The amount of damage they are doing seems to have increased massively as well as now starting fires ridiculously easily.  Before the update I found that facing a cruiser in a BB was at risk of fire as well as taking damage, but it wasn't all one way.  Now it seems that the damage is all one way in favour of the cruisers - any one else noticed this?

 

My Nurmberg disagrees!