[OEL] Rabid_Turnip Players 367 posts 14,165 battles Report post #51 Posted September 5, 2016 Yes, because even more torp spam is just what the game needs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reisen__ Players 375 posts 811 battles Report post #52 Posted September 5, 2016 inb4 all the Bbs captains complaining Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JiksTBS Players 255 posts 13,157 battles Report post #53 Posted September 5, 2016 Akizuki class ... interesting. Historically this was an escort/AAA destroyer so look forward to see what they will do with this one. More importantly I am somewhat over-excited by this news as the Japanese DD line desperately needed some attention. This is more than I had hoped for and may need to go have a lie down ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,506 battles Report post #54 Posted September 5, 2016 MMMM just noted Akizuki-class_destroyer has 4x2 100mm / 65 cal Type 98 DP guns Not 127 mm/50 Type 3 naval gun like the other high tier Jap DDs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DELCV] Al3xstar Players 263 posts 14,218 battles Report post #55 Posted September 5, 2016 (edited) Finally, lets see how will the Akizuki turn out, because she has the same guns as the Hakuryu and Zao secondaries, with 2,9s reload and 1000m/s velocity, sounds like fun Edited September 5, 2016 by SgtCole Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #56 Posted September 5, 2016 She wont be the same Lady... She cant be she would be way overpowerd For me Leave Fubuki alone at tier 8 move her to the new split tree and have Akizuki as a tier 9 Yeah of course but I don't actually mind. I want to play the ship for her looks and history so I don't care that much about her performance. Also this is probably a test and good news for future splits e.g. US cruisers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T_H_0_R Players 1,015 posts 4,182 battles Report post #57 Posted September 5, 2016 WG will with nearly 100% certainty replace your Fubuki with the new T8 Kagero and transfer all XP you gained with your Fubuki. So there is nothing to worry about. Except Kagero has worse torp launchers setup, and IMHO doesn't look nearly as sexy as Buky with those curved lines. New T8 will have a hard work cut out replacing the phenomenal Fubuky we now have at T8. Shame. More so that we will have 2 basically the same ships in the main line now. Fubuki & Akatsuki, then Kagero and Yugumo. Such bollocks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,506 battles Report post #58 Posted September 5, 2016 Yes, because even more torp spam is just what the game needs. and it starts 68% battles in BB 1% in DD 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BW-UK] Gunship14 Players 850 posts Report post #59 Posted September 5, 2016 Yes, because even more torp spam is just what the game needs. Having 5-6 DDs in a single game can indeed get spammy, but IJN DDs on their own are actually underpowered at the moment. This looks like an interesting change. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PRAVD] Takeda92 Weekend Tester 3,802 posts 8,478 battles Report post #60 Posted September 5, 2016 Except Kagero has worse torp launchers setup, and IMHO doesn't look nearly as sexy as Buky with those curved lines. New T8 will have a hard work cut out replacing the phenomenal Fubuky we now have at T8. Shame. More so that we will have 2 basically the same ships in the main line now. Fubuki & Akatsuki, then Kagero and Yugumo. Such bollocks. Come on, Fubuki is fun but she's not that effective. Still outclassed by Benson. I won't mind the reduced launcher, but as long as stealth and guns remain the same (or get better). 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banelord300 Beta Tester 403 posts 9,071 battles Report post #61 Posted September 5, 2016 1) How much will they nerf Fubuki for tier 6? Shame. Nerf? Its a huge buff if they leave the main guns as they are it can nearly challenge the farragut and will at the same time have atleast 8km+ torps = excellent DD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EW_YK] Barkyro Players 439 posts 13,829 battles Report post #62 Posted September 5, 2016 Avenger I already have the kagero as well and after more than 100 games in it I can say its crap. Im not worried about that. I will just miss T8 games with a Fubuki as it should be. As someone said here in this thread "the jewel of the IJN Line" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cro_pwr Players 2,735 posts 10,310 battles Report post #63 Posted September 5, 2016 Nerf? Its a huge buff if they leave the main guns as they are it can nearly challenge the farragut and will at the same time have atleast 8km+ torps = excellent DD. there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T_H_0_R Players 1,015 posts 4,182 battles Report post #64 Posted September 5, 2016 Yeah of course but I don't actually mind. I want to play the ship for her looks and history so I don't care that much about her performance. Also this is probably a test and good news for future splits e.g. US cruisers. I do mind. Since I rarely play T6 and she will have to be gutted to be placed there. The only hope remains in Akatsuki on T7. She could be the new Fubuki... I don't see myself playing Kagero on T8. Only Akizuki. Oh well, Fletcher here I come. New best torpedo boat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,506 battles Report post #65 Posted September 5, 2016 Having 5-6 DDs in a single game can indeed get spammy, but IJN DDs on their own are actually underpowered at the moment. This looks like an interesting change. funny thing is a BB player is better off if there are 4 or 5 DD on each team than they are if there are 2. 5 DD a side means DD furballs at the start of match! The teams that BB/CAs give the best support to there teams DD will probably win. 1 or 2 DD per team leave those DD's Free to cap and stealth torp attack the BB/CA 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T_H_0_R Players 1,015 posts 4,182 battles Report post #66 Posted September 5, 2016 Come on, Fubuki is fun but she's not that effective. Still outclassed by Benson. I won't mind the reduced launcher, but as long as stealth and guns remain the same (or get better). I regularly gun down Bensons. With ease actually. If you know what you are doing that is. She is magnificent on T8. For rest see my Fubuki stats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,506 battles Report post #67 Posted September 5, 2016 Nerf? Its a huge buff if they leave the main guns as they are it can nearly challenge the farragut and will at the same time have atleast 8km+ torps = excellent DD. at Long range the Fubuki's guns can challenge a Benson! Much more Accurate and douse more damage. Unnerfed i think way to powerfull for tier 6 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLOBS] Spellfire40 Beta Tester 5,330 posts 13,776 battles Report post #68 Posted September 5, 2016 If ships get reshuffed down will i get part of the dublons for perm Prem. camo refundet? Will i get a skill reset for ships thats Performance is reduce to fit its level? For example a t6 or t7 buki isnt likely to have 15 km torps so torp acell is a useless skill suddenly.....Seriously they should give the new ships as side choices and avoid messing up the normal line as much as posible. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,506 battles Report post #69 Posted September 5, 2016 (edited) Come on, Fubuki is fun but she's not that effective. Still outclassed by Benson. I won't mind the reduced launcher, but as long as stealth and guns remain the same (or get better). I have played both!!! go look at my stats!!! They could not be much closer. Fubuki is a very strong tier 8 DD Edited September 5, 2016 by T0byJug 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 5,744 posts 32,730 battles Report post #70 Posted September 5, 2016 one line is torpedo DD and other gunboat DD ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T_H_0_R Players 1,015 posts 4,182 battles Report post #71 Posted September 5, 2016 at Long range the Fubuki's guns can challenge a Benson! Much more Accurate and douse more damage. Unnerfed i think way to powerfull for tier 6 Over 6 km Benson's guns are useless when kiting and running away. You have stealth over him and can dictate when and how to engage. Always be prepared to hightail out of the cap by pointing your stern towards the center. Running away and kiting over 6km makes his arcs way more unusable and you are a very difficult target to hit. Couple that with 1 or 2 3k surprise salvos before disappearing into smoke or cover - the only thing you need to fear are russian DDs and Blyskavica. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HatsuzukiKaiNi Beta Tester 215 posts 6,656 battles Report post #72 Posted September 5, 2016 I'm looking forward to the Akizuki, I hope the rest of the balancing changes go well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CCUK] chib1977 Beta Tester 128 posts 4,436 battles Report post #73 Posted September 5, 2016 More content "i approve this message" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fnord_disc Beta Tester 2,119 posts 5,245 battles Report post #74 Posted September 5, 2016 The way this will be balanced is very clearly through the torpedoes since they went to great effort to make this line chronological now. - Fubuki and Akatsuki will lose the Long Lances and even the Type 90 to get the old Type 8 -> Aoba torpedoes because thats what they carried as built - Kagero+ will get Type 93 - Hatsuharu, Shiratsuyu with Type 90 - Akizuki with Type 93 And if you think about it, this makes perfect sense. Fubuki/Akatsuki will have 3x3 Type 8, then Kagero 2x4 much improved Type 93. Hatsuharu/Shiratsuyu will have 2x3 Type 90, which are better torpedoes than the same tier counterpart but 33% less, and then 1x4 Type 93 at Akizuki. And people WILL want the upgrade from Akatsuki to Kagero since the difference between Type 8 and Type 93 is enormous. Hatsuharu and Shiratsuyu might still need a gun buff of some sort because Type 90 isn't that much better than Type 8, but it's certainly within the realm of what can be balanced. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,506 battles Report post #75 Posted September 5, 2016 Over 6 km Benson's guns are useless when kiting and running away. You have stealth over him and can dictate when and how to engage. Always be prepared to hightail out of the cap by pointing your stern towards the center. Running away and kiting over 6km maked his arcs way more unusable and you are a very difficult target to hit. Couple that with 1-2 3k surprise salvos before disappearing into smoke or cover - the only thing you need to fear are russian DDs and Blyskavica. Agree completely... Showed my tight little Fubuki arse to a Gearing once he Pounced me at 4km ,he was almost full health! Some Fubuki twerking. Fubuki's Bum was a little bruised. But that Big american Beast was spanked(gunned down) to death 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites